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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    They should enforce the law of the land instead of subverting it for their own purposes. NGOs are also a part of this problem. Im not sure what to do with that exept to make sure you know where your donations are going ,know what you buy ,who from ,and who you work for.
    Arrest them for treason.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I get it, you don't believe in borders or a nation, so it makes sense this issue would not engage you.
    Yeah, I get it too. Keep FUNDING the lobbyists, border MIC, Constitution-Free Zones, and shackles around your throat. The NWO loves the fact that Private Property means nothing anymore, nor do Private Contract Rights. You will own nothing, and be happy. Waaaaaaaay to go.
    Last edited by PAF; 09-21-2021 at 06:58 PM.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Arrest them for treason.
    The NGO or the officials using them? Or both? After seeing the Milley situation id settle for any type of arrest.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    The NGO or the officials using them? Or both? After seeing the Milley situation id settle for any type of arrest.
    “Republicans” still haven’t learned that ground swell support equal to build police-state apparatus should be applied to end any/all incentives. Because they don’t, they are equally as guilty as the libs.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Yeah, I get it too. Keep FUNDING the lobbyists, border MIC, Constitution-Free Zones, and shackles around your throat. The NWO loves the fact that Private Property means nothing anymore, nor do Private Contract Rights. You will own nothing, and be happy. Waaaaaaaay to go.
    Yes, all of that will come to pass, if we do not get our house in order.

    First order of business: seal off the border and the flood of Marxist infiltrators invading by the millions.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    The NGO or the officials using them? Or both? After seeing the Milley situation id settle for any type of arrest.
    Both.

    All.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Yes, all of that will come to pass, if we do not get our house in order.

    First order of business: seal off the border and the flood of Marxist infiltrators invading by the millions.
    Tail in front of the horse. By that time, nobody will own property anymore, contract rights no longer exist, and the MIC police state apparatus will be harder and heavier all around the nation and domestic across the land.

    Cut the incentives. Cut the cancer. The rest will work itself out according to market conditions. This solution is easier, cheaper, and more effective, but it will take ground swell to make it happen. Which nobody wants to do; it’s too logical.
    Last edited by PAF; 09-21-2021 at 07:07 PM.
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  10. #38
    Natural outcome of global interventions that have had strong bipartisan support (both Afghan and Iraqi freedom wars at one point enjoyed close to 80% public support).

    US House to approve $6.3B for Afghan refugee resettlement

    Most Republicans in Congress support the funding for Afghan refugees


    Funding will bolster US government agencies’ Afghan refugee resettlement efforts after Kabul evacuation in August.

    A US Air Force C-17 cargo aircraft lined up at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar to evacuate Afghans fleeing Kabul [File: Olivier Douliery/Pool via AP Photo]

    21 Sep 2021

    The US House of Representatives is moving to approve $6.3bn in emergency assistance to help resettle Afghan refugees in the United States after the country’s evacuation operation from Kabul last month.



    Europe OTOH has started to feel "flooded" by refugees thanks to US neocons sponsored Syria, Libya, Iraq freedom spread drives and resulting destabilization and bloodbaths across various mideast countries.

    France is nervous about welcoming a wave of Afghan refugees

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    “Republicans” still haven’t learned that ground swell support equal to build police-state apparatus should be applied to end any/all incentives. Because they don’t, they are equally as guilty as the libs.
    I dont see enforcing the national border as creating a police state, if i understood your post right. It secures our property and facilitates a just outcome in court if anyone incures damages. Ideally.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Both.

    All.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    I dont see enforcing the national border as creating a police state, if i understood your post right. It secures our property and facilitates a just outcome in court if anyone incures damages. Ideally.
    It is not our property, it is public land. I support the Right to Travel Freely. Not void the Bill of Rights. For those who live near or have businesses by the border, it is up to them to build their own fence on their own dime, and not soak all of the states for tax money.
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  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Anti Federalist again.
    Covered.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    It is not our property, it is public land. I support the Right to Travel Freely. Not void the Bill of Rights. For those who live near or have businesses by the border, it is up to them to build their own fence on their own dime, and not soak all of the states for tax money.
    I think there are federal and state borders as well as private property along the southern most US. It would be nice if all entities were on the same page as to securing it. I cant subscribe to the idea of freely entering countries ours or others, unless
    a country wants that.

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by tommyrp12 View Post
    I think there are federal and state borders as well as private property along the southern most US. It would be nice if all entities were on the same page as to securing it. I cant subscribe to the idea of freely entering countries ours or others, unless
    a country wants that.
    I see. You are a Republican, not a small l libertarian. All Hail The Empire ;-)
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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's enlightening that you think they're invaders even when they're explicitly accepted and legally allowed to be here.
    So how many can stay at your place? Go on, put up your refugees welcome signs. I bet you could even get extra government benefits for housing them. Excellent work comrade!

    This isn't about helping people, like all things, its about power. And the ones wielding this power are anti freedom, will remake the USA into socialist europe or worse.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    It is not our property, it is public land. I support the Right to Travel Freely. Not void the Bill of Rights. For those who live near or have businesses by the border, it is up to them to build their own fence on their own dime, and not soak all of the states for tax money.
    I agree.

    The fedgov is an enemy force, working as an active Fifth Column to destroy the nation by foreign Marxist interests.

    It has utterly failed to "protect the states from invasion" as is required by Article 4 Section 4 of the constitution.

    Therefore the states along the border, under the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Bill of Rights, have the right and the duty to mobilize whatever forces they see fit, including abandoned and unused fedgov equipment and the Unorganized Militia, to close the border by whatever means they see fit and stop the invasion.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I agree.

    The fedgov is an enemy force, working as an active Fifth Column to destroy the nation by foreign Marxist interests.

    It has utterly failed to "protect the states from invasion" as is required by Article 4 Section 4 of the constitution.

    Therefore the states along the border, under the Ninth and Tenth Amendments to the Bill of Rights, have the right and the duty to mobilize whatever forces they see fit, including abandoned and unused fedgov equipment and the Unorganized Militia, to close the border by whatever means they see fit and stop the invasion.
    We need to agree to disagree then.

    Your “solutions” have been in play for literally decades now, enriching the very lobbyists and domestic MIC, creating more federal agencies, utilized by BOTH parties, and have already devastated people, businesses and entire towns, while soaking me and the rest of the hard working tax payers. But the hatred is so incredibly great, and the reliance on government to do even more [harm], you can’t see logically past your own nose.

    Look. Your jacked philosophy/solution, backed up by action and dollars, got us into this stinking mess in the first place. Invest hard and heavy in others loss of liberty and freedom, and don’t complain when your continued “solution” seals the deal in aiding The Great Reset.

    Over and out.

    Statists. I can’t stand them equally as much as I can’t stand the stinking dumb-ass Libs. Same dish, different side of the GD plate.
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  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    So how many can stay at your place? Go on, put up your refugees welcome signs. I bet you could even get extra government benefits for housing them. Excellent work comrade!
    Are you pro-life? If so, how many infants do you adopt per year?
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    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Are you pro-life? If so, how many infants do you adopt per year?
    Trash. Are orphaned infants being used by the government to manipulate the levers of power? The blinders you have on are thick. Get this through your thick skull. They are not importing hundreds of thousands of refugees out of compassion. They are doing it to further consolidate power into the hands of anti-liberty despots.
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 01/15/24
    Trump will win every single state primary by double digits.
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 04/20/16
    There won't be a contested convention
    Quote Originally Posted by spudea on 05/30/17
    The shooting of Gabrielle Gifford was blamed on putting a crosshair on a political map. I wonder what event we'll see justified with pictures like this.

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    We need to agree to disagree then.

    Your “solutions” have been in play for literally decades now, enriching the very lobbyists and domestic MIC, creating more federal agencies, utilized by BOTH parties, and have already devastated people, businesses and entire towns, while soaking me and the rest of the hard working tax payers. But the hatred is so incredibly great, and the reliance on government to do even more [harm], you can’t see logically past your own nose.

    Look. Your jacked philosophy/solution, backed up by action and dollars, got us into this stinking mess in the first place. Invest hard and heavy in others loss of liberty and freedom, and don’t complain when your continued “solution” seals the deal in aiding The Great Reset.

    Over and out.

    Statists. I can’t stand them equally as much as I can’t stand the stinking dumb-ass Libs. Same dish, different side of the GD plate.
    PAF.

    I want to know. In your dream world, how do anarchists and agorists secure the border ?

    If you were truly anti-state, there wouldn't even be a border.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  25. #51
    10 yr. moratorium on admission of illegal trespassers. Period. Anyone crossing the border illegally will immediately be subject to a boot up their ass on the way back out. The illegal will receive biometric recording and forever be banned. Legal admissions only with sponsorship of an U.S. Citizen. As a host the citizen is responsible for everything. Medical, school, food, housing, etc. The host is also responsible for any crimes committed by the recipient of their sponsorship and will be responsible for restitution.

  26. #52
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    PAF.

    I want to know. In your dream world, how do anarchists and agorists secure the border ?

    If you were truly anti-state, there wouldn't even be a border.
    The BORDER signifies "Land of the Free Home of the Brave". It signifies Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. It signifies that we observe and uphold Natural Rights which are outline in the Bill of the Rights. It signifies that we are the Beacon of Liberty, and not a country based on Walls, Restriction of Movement, Police-State Apparatus, Constitution-Free Zones and "Papers Please".

    If an individual is suspected or caught in a crime against person/property, he/she has the right to meet their accuser and provided a day in court, as the Bill of Rights precisely outlines. Otherwise, Don't Tread On Me.

    NOWHERE does it signify that "you will get free stuff". You can take that up with your legislatures, lobbyists, MIC contractors, and those in the "deep state" who are directly responsible for profiting off of the destruction our rights, Individual Liberty, Private Property and Private Contract Rights, ie: "The Great Reset".

    The problem is, over the decades, people have been conditioned to lose sight of this, and welcome government intervention to solve the problem that it created in the first place. Aside from losing moral compass, FedDeptEd/Common Core is partly responsible. The Declaration of Independence is no longer mentioned or taught in school. It is not "they hate us for our freedoms", it is "WE hate us for our freedoms".
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's enlightening that you think they're invaders even when they're explicitly accepted and legally allowed to be here.
    You're assuming that the current regime in power has any kind of legitimacy.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    The BORDER signifies "Land of the Free Home of the Brave". It signifies Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. It signifies that we observe and uphold Natural Rights which are outline in the Bill of the Rights. It signifies that we are the Beacon of Liberty, and not a country based on Walls, Restriction of Movement, Police-State Apparatus, Constitution-Free Zones and "Papers Please".

    If an individual is suspected or caught in a crime against person/property, he/she has the right to meet their accuser and provided a day in court, as the Bill of Rights precisely outlines.

    NOWHERE does it signify that "you will get free stuff". You can take that up with your legislatures, lobbyists, MIC contractors, and those in the "deep state" who are directly responsible for profiting off of the destruction our rights, Individual Liberty, Private Property and Private Contract Rights, ie: "The Great Reset".

    The problem is, over the decades, people have been conditioned to lose sight of this, and welcome government intervention to solve the problem that it created in the first place. Aside from losing moral compass, FedDeptEd/Common Core is partly responsible. The Declaration of Independence is no longer mentioned or taught in school. It is not "they hate us for our freedoms", it is "WE hate us for our freedoms".
    Wow. You're really young, I can tell. This is an unfortunate way of thinking. You're allowing open borders. How incredibly foolish.
    No, the Consitition does not signify anything you said. The Constitution assigns border protection to the Federal body. The American founders,
    and American statesmen, I assure you, cared about the border very much. Moreover, the rights you're thinking about, they do not even apply
    to foreigners. They are the rights of citizens of these United States alone. Protecting those rights means securing the border.
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Wow. You're really young, I can tell. This is an unfortunate way of thinking. You're allowing open borders. How incredibly foolish.
    No, the Consitition does not signify anything you said. The Constitution assigns border protection to the Federal body. The American founders,
    and American statesmen, I assure you, cared about the border very much. Moreover, the rights you're thinking about, they do not even apply
    to foreigners. They are the rights of citizens of these United States alone. Protecting those rights means securing the border.
    I am much older than you think. And you are a shill, who understand nothing about Natural Rights, Rights granted by Nature/God.

    Your avatar is a little small... is it Snowflake, or Screwball?

    Sounds like you never once read the Bill of Rights. Give it a try. Here's a clue: Nowhere does it say "Attention: For Americans Only". But it does say People.
    Last edited by PAF; 09-22-2021 at 08:55 AM.
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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    This is RonPaulForums. If you do not agree with his positions and the advancement of them, why are you here? Statist forums are abound where you can take your pick.
    I'm in agreement with Dave Smith that being anti-immigration does not make one a statist.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7060898 (immigration is last 15-20 minutes)

    Basically - if you personally want to invite these immigrants to your home and be financially responsible for them - go ahead. Otherwise, that financial burden lies on each of us, and its not a "libertarian position" to expect us to accept that burden voluntarily.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    I'm in agreement with Dave Smith that being anti-immigration does not make one a statist.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...=1#post7060898 (immigration is last 15-20 minutes)

    Basically - if you personally want to invite these immigrants to your home and be financially responsible for them - go ahead. Otherwise, that financial burden lies on each of us, and its not a "libertarian position" to expect us to accept that burden voluntarily.
    Here's the thing, Tex, which you lose sight of, because you rely on others to do your thinking for you (ie; Common Core). NOBODY should be responsible for them. Not you, not me, not the tax paying people. The immigrant should be responsible for him/her own self.
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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Here's the thing, Tex, which you lose sight of, because you rely on others to do your thinking for you (ie; Common Core). NOBODY should be responsible for them. Not you, not me, not the tax paying people. The immigrant should be responsible for him/her own self.
    lol I'm too old to have gone through any Common Core bull$#@! thankfully.

    the key word of your argument is "should". perhaps when half of those "should"'s even remotely resemble reality we can start taking what you say seriously
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Donald Trump / Crenshaw 2024!!!!

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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    I am much older than you think. And you are a shill, who understand nothing about Natural Rights, Rights granted by Nature/God.

    Your avatar is a little small... is it Snowflake, or Screwball?

    Sounds like you never once read the Bill of Rights. Give it a try. Here's a clue: Nowhere does it say "Attention: For Americans Only". But it does say People.


    Immigrants who seek to enter our country must do so legally. Most immigrants enter this country to find work and to create a better life for themselves and their families. However, illegal immigration strains federal resources and threatens our national security.

    I oppose illegal immigration and will work to secure our borders. I will also work to end taxpayer-funded programs for illegal immigrants. American taxpayers should not be forced to pay for illegal immigrants’ welfare, medical care, and other benefits that encourage illegal immigration
    https://massie.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=112051

    There’s no question our country has been enriched by those who come to our country seeking the American Dream and a chance at a better life.

    But millions of illegal immigrants continually crossing our border without our knowledge threatens our national security.

    That’s why, as a U.S. Senator, I’ve opposed amnesty and fought hard to secure our borders while most in Washington, D.C. offer nothing but talk.

    SECURE THE BORDERS. NO MORE GAMES.
    https://www.randpaul.com/issues/immigration

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