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Thread: Was Trump, Pelosi Attempting A "Replacement Government" Coup?

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    Was Trump, Pelosi Attempting A "Replacement Government" Coup?

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    @Swordsmyth : If you have inside intel, can you confirm or deny this?
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    You know what our problem is, @PAF? We just don't understand that figuring out which alpha we want to cuck for and making up excuses for him totally failing to seal the border is more important than saving the republic.

    Well, I've heard the "you've got to have realistic expectations" speech once too often, and I'm taking it to heart. I am now a collapsitarian. None of these partisans on either side of their precious aisle is going to pull his or her head out.

    But those heads--all of them--are about to be pried out. And that is a realistic scenario. Maybe then they'll be ready to try something that works.

    Do me a favor. Wake me when the dust settles.

    So Trump kicked Massie out of the par-tay because our friend Thomas wouldn't let Nancy throw the Constitution away. Well, well. Good thing all this voting for whoever CNN hates the most sure is slowing the decline. Nice to have some fiddling to do while Rome burns.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-19-2021 at 08:37 AM.
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    ...sad that this man's greatness is defined by the hatred he attracts and this is why Americans love him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You know what our problem is, @PAF? We just don't understand that figuring out which alpha we want to cuck for and making up excuses for him totally failing to seal the border is more important than saving the republic.

    Well, I've heard the "you've got to have realistic expectations" speech once too often, and I'm taking it to heart. I am now a collapsitarian. None of these partisans on either side of their precious aisle is going to pull his or her head out.

    But those heads--all of them--are about to be pried out. And that is a realistic scenario. Maybe then they'll be ready to try something that works.

    Do me a favor. Wake me when the dust settles.

    So Trump kicked Massie out if the par-tay because our friend Thomas wouldn't let Nancy throw the Constitution away. Well, well. Good thing all this voting for whoever CNN hates the most sure is slowing the decline. Nice to have some fiddling to do while Rome burns.
    +1, out of rep.

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    #thingsMostpeopledontwanttotalkabout
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    #thingsMostpeopledontwanttotalkabout
    Clearly.

    1. Row as fast as you can up De Nile.

    2. Throw away the paddle.

    That'll get you through the $#@! they have in store for us.
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    ...sad that this man's greatness is defined by the hatred he attracts and this is why Americans love him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Starts at 21 minutes 10 seconds:

    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PAF again.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    https://tomwoods.com/ep-1969-congres...iden-mandates/

    YouBoob has apparently taken it down - I can't find it even on his show page.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Fools mock, but they shall mourn.
    Or maybe just run and hide.
    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    ...sad that this man's greatness is defined by the hatred he attracts and this is why Americans love him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    https://tomwoods.com/ep-1969-congres...iden-mandates/

    YouBoob has apparently taken it down - I can't find it even on his show page.
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    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/...44607306977280
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    Tom Woods Show Ep. 1969 Congressman Thomas Massie: Resist the Biden Mandates
    Congressman Thomas Massie, opposed by midwits everywhere but cheered by lovers of freedom and science, has been a voice of reason over the past year and a half. Today we discussed the Biden vaccine mandates and what people can do.
    https://odysee.com/@TomWoodsTV:e/ep....mas-massie-2:e
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    Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850)

    • "When law and morality are in contradiction to each other, the citizen finds himself in the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense, or of losing his respect for the law."
      -- The Law (p. 54)
    • "Government is that great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else."
      -- Government (p. 99)
    • "[W]ar is always begun in the interest of the few, and at the expense of the many."
      -- Economic Sophisms - Second Series (p. 312)
    • "There are two principles that can never be reconciled - Liberty and Constraint."
      -- Harmonies of Political Economy - Book One (p. 447)

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    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Occam's Banana again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Starts at 21 minutes 10 seconds:

    Here's a recording of the same speech with much better audio quality:

    (Also, $#@! YouTube.)

    The War On Us - Rep. Thomas Massie
    https://odysee.com/@RonPaul:d/the-wa...part2-massie:5
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 09-30-2021 at 08:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Bump for @Invisible Man.
    OK. I'm all for what Massie did. But he didn't thwart anything.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    OK. I'm all for what Massie did. But he didn't thwart anything.
    You don't think so? The Constitution isn't officially negated. You don't think that's cramping anyone's style at all?

    Whatever you say, man. But all I said he thwarted was their plan to officially remove the document from its status as law of the land. He did that. So he thwarted something, even if the something amounts to nothing in your book. Didn't he?
    Last edited by acptulsa; 05-13-2024 at 09:57 AM.

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    Utter hogwash.
    Nothing Massie did would have stopped CoG if Trump had been intending such a thing and Massie interfering with the passage of the bill would have helped them declare Congress was unable to function in an emergency.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Utter hogwash.
    Nothing Massie did would have stopped CoG if Trump had been intending such a thing and Massie interfering with the passage of the bill would have helped them declare Congress was unable to function in an emergency.
    @Occam's Banana is this how I'm supposed to deal with this spam?

    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    If they had done it, but not by the book, they'd have faced a backlash. Just because you'd have licked their boots doesn't mean men would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    @Occam's Banana is this how I'm supposed to deal with this spam?
    So, you get to repeat the same nonsense in multiple threads and it's not spam, but when people type up distinctly different responses to each of your posts of the same nonsense it is spam?

    I think I understand.
    Your dogma is exempt from the rules and can be spammed around, but people who disagree have freedom of speech but not freedom of reach.
    That way you get to go unanswered in most of the places you post your nonsense.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They weren't doing it by the book. (they weren't doing it at all but if they were it wasn't by the book)
    And Massie's action would only have helped them to do it by the book if they had wanted to .
    Massie just created a fantasy so he could cast himself as a hero who save the day.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Utter hogwash.
    Nothing Massie did would have stopped CoG if Trump had been intending such a thing and Massie interfering with the passage of the bill would have helped them declare Congress was unable to function in an emergency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    ... distinctly different responses ...
    Where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Where?
    More distinct than your repetitions of your nonsense.
    As anyone who can read can see.
    In fact even an illiterate can look at them and tell they are different.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    More distinct than...
    A little alteration of the window dressing does not a distinct opinion make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    @Occam's Banana is this how I'm supposed to deal with this spam?
    As long as a particular sequence of bickering is not being copy-pasted (with or without slight variations) across multiple threads (and any cross-linking is limited to a quote or hyperlink provided for the purpose of saying "take it over there"), then sure, whatever - that's fine (for some definition of "fine"). No one is being edified by seeing "'ur a big fat doodyhead' / 'no u' / 'no u' / ..." exchanges eleventy-two times instead of just eleventy-one times.

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