Where's the "Operation Warp Speed" for monoclonal antibodies?

[phill4paul]

"We want people out there, including physicians as well as potential patients, to realize the advantage of this very effective way of treating early infection," Dr. Fauci said. "Clinical trials have demonstrated that early treatment with anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies can reduce the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization or death by 70 [percent] to 85 percent."

https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...reatments.html

If you reduce the Covid-19 hospitalizations and death by 70-85% it makes it LESS deadly and a strain on the healthcare system than the common flu!

But, of course there is just not enough monoclonal antibodies in the chain and The Fed. Gov. Biden Admin. needs to RESTRICT it's use.

The states that have been using the monoclonal and keeping their numbers down are red states. The ones with no mask mandates, no business shut downs.

The US government is buying more doses of monoclonal antibody treatments for Covid-19, and the Biden administration is taking over distribution in order to avoid shortages of the key therapeutics.

The moves come as demand for monoclonal antibodies has increased as cases surged due to spread of the Delta variant and low vaccination rates in some areas of the country.

Monoclonal antibodies are lab-engineered immune system proteins that kickstart an immune response against an infection. The US Department of

Health and Human Services says that as of September 10, 2.17 million doses of monoclonal antibodies have been shipped to all sites, and 938,000 doses have been used since December. About 43% of the distributed doses have been used as of September 3.

An HHS spokesperson said seven states have accounted for 70% of orders for the therapy. Those seven states are Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.

"Given this reality, we must work to ensure our supply of these life-saving therapies remains available for all states and territories, not just some," the HHS spokesperson said.

The distribution, which is similar to a system employed earlier this year, will fall to HHS, which will allocate product to states and territories each week, rather administration sites ordering them directly.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/healt...cts/index.html

[PAF]

Government has NO business in healthcare.


- Top Donor Of Gov. Ron DeSantis Is Regeneron Investor. Citadel CEO Ken Griffin has donated $10.75 million to a political committee that supports DeSantis. He also donated $5.75 million in 2018 and $5 million last April.

Citadel’s investment in Regeneron is a tiny fraction of its overall $39 billion in investments, but if the stock price were to go up, Citadel would benefit. DeSantis spokeswoman Christina Pushaw points out that Citadel has far greater investments in Moderna and Pfizer, which manufacture COVID-19 vaccines.

DeSantis announced on Wednesday the opening of another monoclonal antibody treatment center at C.B. Smith Park in Pembroke Pines. Another site is opening on August 21 at Tropical Park in Southwest Miami-Dade. The state plans to have 21 open by next week. The federal government is paying for the monoclonal antibody treatments and patients aren’t being charged for the antibody cocktail.

The Citadel CEO, a billionaire, has donated tens of millions of dollars to other conservative candidates and political committees across the country. He was raised in Florida and is building an oceanfront mansion near Trump’s Palm Beach Mar-a-Lago resort.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-On-The-Record

[phill4paul]

Government has NO business in healthcare.


- Top Donor Of Gov. Ron DeSantis Is Regeneron Investor. Citadel CEO Ken Griffin has donated $10.75 million to a political committee that supports DeSantis. He also donated $5.75 million in 2018 and $5 million last April.

Citadel’s investment in Regeneron is a tiny fraction of its overall $39 billion in investments, but if the stock price were to go up, Citadel would benefit. DeSantis spokeswoman Christina Pushaw points out that Citadel has far greater investments in Moderna and Pfizer, which manufacture COVID-19 vaccines.

DeSantis announced on Wednesday the opening of another monoclonal antibody treatment center at C.B. Smith Park in Pembroke Pines. Another site is opening on August 21 at Tropical Park in Southwest Miami-Dade. The state plans to have 21 open by next week. The federal government is paying for the monoclonal antibody treatments and patients aren’t being charged for the antibody cocktail.

The Citadel CEO, a billionaire, has donated tens of millions of dollars to other conservative candidates and political committees across the country. He was raised in Florida and is building an oceanfront mansion near Trump’s Palm Beach Mar-a-Lago resort.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-On-The-Record

So monoclonals suck?

[PAF]

So monoclonals suck?

So you believe the End the FED should be involved in healthcare?

[phill4paul]

So you believe the End the FED should be involved in healthcare?

Oh, that's right, you're the agorist. The one that believes you should shun politics and if everyone did as well government would go away and you would be free to grow sunflowers in your back yard.

Step the $#@! aside. If you believe that $#@! then get off this site. Go live your life and quit wasting your time here.

Globalists love you. Because even though you believe yourself to be "pure." Every day and everyway you empower them. Your very interaction on this site does.

So schtap with your bull$#@! already.

Next thing you'll be telling us to drive around without an license plate, and expecting it to end in your favor.

[PAF]

Oh, that's right, you're the agorist. The one that believes you should shun politics and if everyone did as well government would go away and you would be free to grow sunflowers in your back yard.

Step the $#@! aside. If you believe that $#@! then get off this site. Go live your life and quit wasting your time here.

Globalists love you. Because even though you believe yourself to be "pure." Every day and everyway you empower them. Your very interaction on this site does.

So schtap with your bull$#@! already.

Next thing you'll be telling us to drive around without an license plate, and expecting it to end in your favor.

Motorcycle Registration:
$21/year x 9 years = $189

Inspection:
$20/year x 9 years = $180

Total = $369

If $369 is no biggie, I have a Venmo account you can shoot it right over.

I pick up pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters off the ground when I see them. Goes right in the jar until I have enough to roll and trade. Once I found a wrinkled 5 buck bill in the parking lot over at the wing bar, if you would come, the tab was on me ;-)


‘Merika… they loves them their Fed, even repubs now cause DJT gave his seal of approval.

[Invisible Man]

Oh, that's right, you're the agorist.

Agorists aren't the only people who believe that providing medical care to the public is outside the purview of the federal government. Anybody who supports this website's mission, or who is anywhere close to aligned with Ron Paul, or for that matter anyone who would have been just a run-of-the-mill conservative up until a couple decades ago, also believes that providing medical care to the public is outside the purview of the federal government.

You telling someone to step aside for supporting the mission of this website so that you can come here and support the very antithesis of everything we stand for is the height of trolling.

[phill4paul]

So you believe the End the FED should be involved in healthcare?

Oh, look at me I'm an agorist. I didn't buy one thing today I wasn't taxed on. I live my life through the black market. Blargh, blargh, blargh.

[PAF]

Oh, look at me I'm an agorist. I didn't buy one thing today I wasn't taxed on. I live my life through the black market. Blargh, blargh, blargh.

12 bucks a carton for smokes over at the Injun reservation, I figure that’s a few grand saved a year just in taxes. I’m not Indian, but I dig their bikes, it’s my ride of choice. Blows the mirrors off any Hog next to me ;-)

[PAF]

My personal-private physician and I will determine what is best for me. I don’t want or need Lobbyists or the Fed to feed me crap on the nationalistic healthcare tax payer dime what it thinks is best for me.

[Brian4Liberty]

Instead of “warp speed”, the Biden Admin will call it “slow boat”...

Biden Admin Limiting Supply Of Monoclonal Antibodies In 7 Southern States

[jmdrake]

My personal-private physician and I will determine what is best for me. I don’t want or need Lobbyists or the Fed to feed me crap on the nationalistic healthcare tax payer dime what it thinks is best for me.

Government has NO business in healthcare.


- Top Donor Of Gov. Ron DeSantis Is Regeneron Investor. Citadel CEO Ken Griffin has donated $10.75 million to a political committee that supports DeSantis. He also donated $5.75 million in 2018 and $5 million last April.

Citadel’s investment in Regeneron is a tiny fraction of its overall $39 billion in investments, but if the stock price were to go up, Citadel would benefit. DeSantis spokeswoman Christina Pushaw points out that Citadel has far greater investments in Moderna and Pfizer, which manufacture COVID-19 vaccines.

DeSantis announced on Wednesday the opening of another monoclonal antibody treatment center at C.B. Smith Park in Pembroke Pines. Another site is opening on August 21 at Tropical Park in Southwest Miami-Dade. The state plans to have 21 open by next week. The federal government is paying for the monoclonal antibody treatments and patients aren’t being charged for the antibody cocktail.

The Citadel CEO, a billionaire, has donated tens of millions of dollars to other conservative candidates and political committees across the country. He was raised in Florida and is building an oceanfront mansion near Trump’s Palm Beach Mar-a-Lago resort.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-On-The-Record

Oh, that's right, you're the agorist. The one that believes you should shun politics and if everyone did as well government would go away and you would be free to grow sunflowers in your back yard.

Step the $#@! aside. If you believe that $#@! then get off this site. Go live your life and quit wasting your time here.

Globalists love you. Because even though you believe yourself to be "pure." Every day and everyway you empower them. Your very interaction on this site does.

So schtap with your bull$#@! already.

Next thing you'll be telling us to drive around without an license plate, and expecting it to end in your favor.

Instead of “warp speed”, the Biden Admin will call it “slow boat”...

Biden Admin Limiting Supply Of Monoclonal Antibodies In 7 Southern States

In a perfect world the free market would solve everything. But the world ain't perfect. It doesn't matter how much you and your doctor might want to choose monoclonal antibodies or ivermectin or fill-in-the-blank. If it's unavailable it's unavailable. And regardless of what role someone thinks the government should play in medicine, it is quite telling that they are only pushing "solutions" that lead to greater tyranny. So I support governors making more options available. And I also support free-marketters putting their heads together to come up with ways to make more options available.

[Anti Federalist]

In a perfect world the free market would solve everything. But the world ain't perfect. It doesn't matter how much you and your doctor might want to choose monoclonal antibodies or ivermectin or fill-in-the-blank. If it's unavailable it's unavailable. And regardless of what role someone thinks the government should play in medicine, it is quite telling that they are only pushing "solutions" that lead to greater tyranny. So I support governors making more options available. And I also support free-marketters putting their heads together to come up with ways to make more options available.

Thank Christ a voice of reason.

+rep

All I see happening here is the fedgoov exercising illegitimate authority to ration and ban lifesaving treatments that will end up killing people, based on politics.

There is another word for that: genocide.

Thank Christ those treatments were not withheld from me over the last week or I would probably be dead now.

[PAF]

Thank Christ a voice of reason.

+rep

All I see happening here is the fedgoov exercising illegitimate authority to ration and ban lifesaving treatments that will end up killing people, based on politics.

There is another word for that: genocide.

Thank Christ those treatments were not withheld from me over the last week or I would probably be dead now.

Say good riddens to "End the Fed".

I could be wrong, but I think you are missing the point that Florida and other states are receiving monoclonal using federal dollars, while the state is propping up more government medical facilities. And the fact that Moderna, Pfizer AND Monoclonal investors are lining the pockets of politicians.

Government has NO business in 1. Healthcare, 2. Supplying or 3. Rationing

Until people get that, round and round we go, and more powerful the government and crony corporatism becomes.

[Brian4Liberty]

Say good riddens to "End the Fed".

I could be wrong, but I think you are missing the point that Florida and other states are receiving monoclonal using federal dollars, while the state is propping up more government medical facilities. And the fact that Moderna, Pfizer AND Monoclonal investors are lining the pockets of politicians.

Government has NO business in 1. Healthcare, 2. Supplying or 3. Rationing

Until people get that, round and round we go, and more powerful the government and crony corporatism becomes.

I believe everyone gets that point, and does not want government involved in any way.

But the other point, as AF points out, is that It's important that people not be denied, by government, life savings drugs, whether ivermectin or monoclonal antibodies or anything else. Anyone with Covid would probably be willing to pay a reasonable cash amount for a treatment. Get government and insurance out of the equation. Let the free market meet the demand.

[jmdrake]

Thank Christ a voice of reason.

+rep

All I see happening here is the fedgoov exercising illegitimate authority to ration and ban lifesaving treatments that will end up killing people, based on politics.

There is another word for that: genocide.

Thank Christ those treatments were not withheld from me over the last week or I would probably be dead now.

You're welcome and hope you make a full recovery!

Say good riddens to "End the Fed".

I could be wrong, but I think you are missing the point that Florida and other states are receiving monoclonal using federal dollars, while the state is propping up more government medical facilities. And the fact that Moderna, Pfizer AND Monoclonal investors are lining the pockets of politicians.

Government has NO business in 1. Healthcare, 2. Supplying or 3. Rationing

Until people get that, round and round we go, and more powerful the government and crony corporatism becomes.

Ummm.......you're not making sense. "End The Fed", a chant that first became known to me when I joined this movement in 2007, had/has a particular meaning. It's always meant the Federal Reserve Bank. End the Fed never was associated, by this movement, with ending all government. It didn't even mean "end the federal government." It meant "End The Federal Reserve Bank." This country existed many years without a central bank. I had to explain this to my mother in law (ex mother in law now?) when she gave me grief over my "end the fed" bumper sticker. So no. Accepting help from a non federal government official that is not connected to the central bank is not nullification of "End The Fed." So...quit saying that. Please.

Now to the practical side of this. We are literally in the fight for our very lives. What Biden is doing by limiting the supply of monoclonal antibodies to be compared to boycotts our country has done against "terrorist" nations. Ron Paul has in the past justly called that an act of war. I do not say this lightly. @Anti Federalist knows I'm the last person to be talking like this. As I type this I know this forum is being watch. I am probably more identifiable than most because I don't use some pseudonym here. But if we don't pull our heads out of our collective asses as see what's going on, well then whatever happens next is our own damn fault. When liberals were pushing for more gun control and constitutional sheriffs were like "Nope. We're not going to let you enforce those laws in our jurisdictions", and they were applauded, did you freak out then and say "Wait a minute. That's the end of 'End The Fed'?" Because....I missed that if you did. If you didn't, what's the difference? Yes, in a perfect government free world sheriffs wouldn't exist and the self organized militia would protect us from enemies foreign and domestic. But that perfect world does not exist! Yes, the Bundy's held of the feds for a bit on the grazing issue...then they fell of the front page, then the feds arrested them when they tried to help someone else. If a governor or state legislature decides to act to help you have more medical choices, there is no downside to that action. And if you've got a solution on how to get monoclonal antibodies or ivermectin or whatever else to the people that want it and can't get it, GREAT! We're all ears. And for the record I'm all for natural over the counter stuff like zinc and melatonin and other natural remedies like exercise and sunlight and hydrotherapy. I'm putting together a pamphlet on just that to share in my community. This is a full court press. Let's start working on solutions. We don't have the time or manpower to waste knocking down each others ideas on nothing principal grounds.

[Swordsmyth]

Thank Christ a voice of reason.

+rep

All I see happening here is the fedgoov exercising illegitimate authority to ration and ban lifesaving treatments that will end up killing people, based on politics.

There is another word for that: genocide.

Thank Christ those treatments were not withheld from me over the last week or I would probably be dead now.

Get well soon!

May GOD bless and keep you.

[Anti Federalist]

Get well soon!

May GOD bless and keep you.

Thanks brother, it is much appreciated.

Released from hospital on Tuesday, with improving metrics, but still tested positive.

Yesterday afternoon tested negative with much improved symptoms.

That was dicey there for about 72 hours...caught a particularly virulent "breakthough" strain from a fully vaxxed person.

And how anybody can view what the fedgov is doing in FL as nothing but pure evil is beyond me.

[PAF]

@phill4paul says: I don’t mind paying my taxes

[phill4paul]

@phill4paul says: I don’t mind paying my taxes

@PAF says: I'm all cool and am an agorist and everyone else should be too. That's how you end government.

Like a Marxist government is gonna let your agorist ass let your balls fly free in the public square.

Dood, go live among the peoples of the forest. Have fun.

But, stop injecting your bull$#@! among adults.

[PAF]

@PAF says: I'm all cool and am an agorist and everyone else should be too. That's how you end government.

Like a Marxist government is gonna let your agorist ass let your balls fly free in the public square.

Dood, go live among the peoples of the forest. Have fun.

But, stop injecting your bull$#@! among adults.

I always tell folks… never be jealous, you can do the same ;-)

[TheTexan]

@PAF says: I'm all cool and am an agorist and everyone else should be too. That's how you end government.

Like a Marxist government is gonna let your agorist ass let your balls fly free in the public square.

Dood, go live among the peoples of the forest. Have fun.

But, stop injecting your bull$#@! among adults.

Isn't agorist just a fancy word for doormat?

[oyarde]

Isn't agorist just a fancy word for doormat?

I thought those were the homeless guys that wash windshields .

[PAF]

@phill4paul great talking with you, stay cool keep in touch! Reach out to the others it will be fun and worth it

[phill4paul]

@phill4paul great talking with you, stay cool keep in touch! Reach out to the others it will be fun and worth it

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to PAF again

[acptulsa]

Yeah, we get it. Biden good (only a threat), DeSantis bad.

Why do you keep reverting to, doesn't like Team Red, must like Team Blue?

Is that your default position? Do you just snap back to that every time you reboot?

How do we give you an infraction for popping off with these insults?

There's only two things required to dislike both DeSantis and Chester the Molester: Eyes and brains.

[Brian4Liberty]

Why do you keep reverting to, doesn't like Team Red, must like Team Blue?

Is that your default position? Do you just snap back to that every time you reboot?

How do we give you an infraction for popping off with these insults?

There's only two things required to dislike both DeSantis and Chester the Molester: Eyes and brains.

Why change the subject to "team red" when the thread subject is "team blue" (aka Biden)? Didn't PAF already create a thread dedicated to criticizing DeSantis?

[acptulsa]

Why change the subject to "team red"...

The phrase "warp speed" isn't in the thread title?

Did we think Phil's a Trekkie?

Maybe the man can't tell 'em apart without a program, or separate 'em without a crowbar. I know I can't.

[acptulsa]

Meanwhile the inmates get to break up the fights.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...26#post7059626

Gotta do something while I'm not fapping to the pic of the GOP Presumptive Nominee.

[acptulsa]

Nothing was changed.

DeSantis On The Record is one thread.

Where's the "Operation Warp Speed" for monoclonal antibodies? is another thread.

I simply pointed out that taking federal dollars for what should be between patient/doctor/private practice is wrong and cited an example of who did it and how.

Government has NO business in 1. healthcare, 2. providing or 3. rationing. It is up to the Free Market to determine that - NOT using state or federal dollars.

Ever read Go Set a Watchman by Harper Lee? Know why that book was officially despised?

It's about a young woman throwing a hissy because she catches her father being practical. And the reason Theye don't want you to read it is because the young liberal airhead is considerably more conservative than any Team Red Guy on this forum. That's how far wrong we've gone. We don't know how well things work when government doesn't do them. The idea doesn't even occur to people.

GOP primary voters keep obediently falling in love with whoever gets whined about most on CNN, been doing it since CNN was founded nearly forty years ago, and they're threatening to lock us up and inject us with unidentified stuff that causes inflammation, suppresses the immune system, and is delivered by graphene nanotubes.

What was that famous definition of insanity, again?

I don't care who CNN talks smack about the most, particularly if he's cashing paychecks from Big Pharma. If I can't find a good He Who Must Not Be Named, the GOP can take a flying leap.