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Thread: Is there any reason to be concerned about taking the Covid tests (weekly per Biden mandate)?

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    Is there any reason to be concerned about taking the Covid tests (weekly per Biden mandate)?

    At work, if I'm forced to taken weekly Covid tests (in order to comply with the Biden mandate), is there a reason to be concerned about that?

    One concern I have is that the test can yield a false positive (e.g. PCR test with a high # of cycles). I'm sure I'd be forced to quarantine at that point (which would be reasonable enough assuming it's not a false positive) but I don't know if that would cause other problems for me. Be put on a list? Be contact traced? etc

    Another concern is that it might not be so healthy to have those swabs rammed up my nasal cavity. The article below talks about how masks shed microplastic fibers. Can a similar thing happen with these swabs?

    Another concern (more of a paranoia) is that, potentially these swabs could be used to infect people with Covid. I don't think it's likely but I don't want to not give it any consideration whatsoever.


    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/scie...e-should-still

    Chinese study finds most masks shed microplastic fibres that are inhaled by the wearer and could be harmful



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    Too much of anything can/will cause problems.

    Hand sanitizer, for example, leads to drying of the skin and exposes the pores which introduces problems.

    Children wearing masks cuts down fresh air, the masks are constantly touched and contaminated.

    The human body is designed to "get sick" periodically in order to build a proper immune system. At this rate, we are headed toward a Sterile Society. Less activity, poor food choices and obesity due to "government guidelines", and now an injection for everything under the sun.

    If you are aged and/or have preexisting conditions, common sense would tell you that it is not a good idea to run marathons, but rather stay at home or go to the doctor/hospital.

    And yes, constantly running a swab up your nasal cavity can/will present another set of problems.

    This "Covid" has a 99.8% survival rate. The government interfered, did not let it run its course like any other cold/flu, and here we are.

    Government, and businesses, have NO business in healthcare. That should be between you and your personal private physician.
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    Your quarantine time after a positive test could be without pay. And if sinister motives are in play, the PCR cycles could be intentionally cranked up to keep you permanently quarantined without pay.
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    A q-tip up your nose once a week isn't going to hurt you. If you need the job that bad, I guess let them do it. False positives seem to be a growing concern.

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    I won’t let them swab my nose just like I won’t let them swab my butt.

    Who owns you and your bodily autonomy? Boss Man?

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    Only thing I can tell you is that I had what felt like a mild chest cold for three days. I took the test to have some proof of natural immunity. Whatever chemical is on the swab cleared my sinuses for about 4 hours. Then I felt way worse for the next three days and lost my sense of smell.

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    I would think mechanical damage is the most serious risk factor.
    "I am a bird"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt4Liberty View Post
    Only thing I can tell you is that I had what felt like a mild chest cold for three days. I took the test to have some proof of natural immunity. Whatever chemical is on the swab cleared my sinuses for about 4 hours. Then I felt way worse for the next three days and lost my sense of smell.
    They put chemicals on the swab? If so forget what I posted above. I thought they just shoved a clean q-tip in your nose and tested what comes out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    A q-tip up your nose once a week isn't going to hurt you. If you need the job that bad, I guess let them do it. False positives seem to be a growing concern.
    Black Fungus as well..

    How do you know what they are shoving up your Nose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luctor-et-emergo View Post
    I would think mechanical damage is the most serious risk factor.
    Contamination.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Will you be able to collect unemployment if you test positive or refuse to be tested at all ?

    Unemployment insurance provides an avenue to a less connected, vulnerable career.
    You might not earn as much money, but the trade off could be worth it, especially if this gets out of hand.

    They will have your DNA, but that's not a terribly big deal yet. It could be down the road, though.
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    I had a bad allergic reaction after sticking my hand in a car seat crack a few weeks ago. It eventually spread to both hands and got a steroid to stop the reaction. Eventually lost a layer of skin on each hand.

    I think too much hand sanitizer over the past year and a half played a role.

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    Screw their tests. They get total non-compliance from me. I refuse drug testing as well. I have nothing to hide concerning that but it's the principle damn it.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BortSimpson View Post
    At work, if I'm forced to taken weekly Covid tests (in order to comply with the Biden mandate), is there a reason to be concerned about that?
    Dude! DON'T DO THAT!

    If you comply, they will NEVER stop. Force your employer to fire you and threaten them with a lawsuit. File an EEOC complaint. Get together with like-minded employees and make sure none of them comply either.

    How about you grow a pair and own your own body! Tell them they can go to hell! You want to sell them your labor, but if they're going to proceed with unlawful and immoral requirements, you want nothing to do with them. But don't be a pussy. That time is OVER!
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    A q-tip up your nose once a week isn't going to hurt you.
    There's actually a good chance it will. I know if you put that $#@! in your ears on any kind of regular basis it requires basically a doctors appointment to clear that $#@! out
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    Your Compliance is Prolonging This

    Noncompliance is the Only Way to End It.

    Just Say NO
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom



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    Ya , I'd have to find a way out of getting tha giant q tip shoved up three inches into my face. Just ask for severence and unemployment until you find something better.
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Too much of anything can/will cause problems.

    Hand sanitizer, for example, leads to drying of the skin and exposes the pores which introduces problems.

    Children wearing masks cuts down fresh air, the masks are constantly touched and contaminated.

    The human body is designed to "get sick" periodically in order to build a proper immune system. At this rate, we are headed toward a Sterile Society. Less activity, poor food choices and obesity due to "government guidelines", and now an injection for everything under the sun.

    If you are aged and/or have preexisting conditions, common sense would tell you that it is not a good idea to run marathons, but rather stay at home or go to the doctor/hospital.

    And yes, constantly running a swab up your nasal cavity can/will present another set of problems.

    This "Covid" has a 99.8% survival rate. The government interfered, did not let it run its course like any other cold/flu, and here we are.

    Government, and businesses, have NO business in healthcare. That should be between you and your personal private physician.
    And would have been much higher had more effort, and by effort I mean less red tape, into treatments. 2 yrs. in and only NOW does Fauci say to use monoclonal antibodies.
    Dr. Fauci said. "Clinical trials have demonstrated that early treatment with anti-SARS-CoV-2 monoclonal antibodies can reduce the risk of COVID-19 hospitalization or death by 70 [percent] to 85 percent."
    70-80% LESS hospitalizations would have put this well UNDER the amount of hospitalizations and death of the common flu.

    https://www.beckershospitalreview.co...reatments.html

    Meanwhile the Biden admin. moves to "stave off" shortages of them.

    WELL, HOLY $#@!! We've managed to produce enough vaccines for the entire $#@!ing world, but we can't make enough monoclonal antibodies?

    The US government is buying more doses of monoclonal antibody treatments for Covid-19, and the Biden administration is taking over distribution in order to avoid shortages of the key therapeutics.

    The moves come as demand for monoclonal antibodies has increased as cases surged due to spread of the Delta variant and low vaccination rates in some areas of the country.
    Monoclonal antibodies are lab-engineered immune system proteins that kickstart an immune response against an infection. The US Department of Health and Human Services says that as of September 10, 2.17 million doses of monoclonal antibodies have been shipped to all sites, and 938,000 doses have been used since December. About 43% of the distributed doses have been used as of September 3.

    An HHS spokesperson said seven states have accounted for 70% of orders for the therapy. Those seven states are Florida, Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and Louisiana.

    "Given this reality, we must work to ensure our supply of these life-saving therapies remains available for all states and territories, not just some," the HHS spokesperson said.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/15/healt...cts/index.html

    In other words, $#@! you red states that didn't go along with mandates. We simply CANNOT have you having lesser hospitalizations than our vax, mask, business destroying restrictive, red states.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 09-15-2021 at 06:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Dude! DON'T DO THAT!

    If you comply, they will NEVER stop. Force your employer to fire you and threaten them with a lawsuit. File an EEOC complaint. Get together with like-minded employees and make sure none of them comply either.

    How about you grow a pair and own your own body! Tell them they can go to hell! You want to sell them your labor, but if they're going to proceed with unlawful and immoral requirements, you want nothing to do with them. But don't be a pussy. That time is OVER!
    Thank you for the response. It's not a rule for me at work (at least yet) but I'm trying to plan ahead. I agree with you that if you comply, it won't end. "The amount of tyranny you'll get is the exact amount you'll accept".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    There's actually a good chance it will. I know if you put that $#@! in your ears on any kind of regular basis it requires basically a doctors appointment to clear that $#@! out
    I use q-tips daily in my ears and never have had an issue. I make a lot of ear wax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BortSimpson View Post
    Thank you for the response. It's not a rule for me at work (at least yet) but I'm trying to plan ahead. I agree with you that if you comply, it won't end. "The amount of tyranny you'll get is the exact amount you'll accept".
    Just to be clear... You're most likely not going to win any lawsuits. The EEOC has weighed in (of course they did ) and said that employers can mandate the Covid jab as long as they provide accommodations.

    But don't make it easy for them. Refuse to tell them about your vaccination status. Ask for a religious exemption. Refuse to wear a mask. Make them give you an antibody test (you may have already antibodies which would make the jab pointless). Threaten them with a lawsuit - even if they know you'll lose, it'll still cause them a headache. If your company has an ethics department, file an ethics complaint and warn them about the legal ramifications of retaliation. Again, they have the legal standing if they do everything they need to do, but it slows the process and causes them grief. If enough of us do that, the costs for adhering to the fatwas are going to be higher than ignoring them. We'll start seeing lawsuits against OSHA.

    Ultimately, though, you need to be prepared for them to fire you. And while that may be scary, it's not a bad thing. If they're willing to impose government fatwas on you against your will, do you really want to keep doing business with them?? I know it's an easy answer, but it does come with some uncertainty. I wouldn't quit, though. That lets them off easy. Make them fire you.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Aside from giving up your personal sovereignty in this way, I have heard a few reasons for not doing it. I can't verify these so, take them for what you will.

    1. False positives as high as 80%.
    1b. PCR tests don't specifically test for COVID. PCR inventor had come out against use to dx infectious disease (look into Kary Mullis).
    1c. There is no test for Delta variant.
    2. The swabs are pushed far enough to impact the blood brain barrier.
    3. Putting a foreign object in your body could unintentionally expose it to contaminants from the process.
    4. The swabs intentionally contain graphene particles (strands), that could cause morgellon's among other things.
    4b. The swabs contain nanobots.

    I'm sure there were other things I've read/heard but that's all I come up with this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    They put chemicals on the swab? If so forget what I posted above. I thought they just shoved a clean q-tip in your nose and tested what comes out.
    No, the swab had like a plasticy spungy tip. It was moist with something, and had a very strange smell. I was on the fence at the time, but had so many people tell me to get a test so that I could tell them to get bent about the jab. Definitely regret it, especially since there was no medical privacy. I took the test at Walgreens, and had a call from the county health Stassi in hours after receiving the results myself. Told them I got it at the local Indian casino since they have no jurisdiction there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Will you be able to collect unemployment if you test positive or refuse to be tested at all ?

    Unemployment insurance provides an avenue to a less connected, vulnerable career.
    You might not earn as much money, but the trade off could be worth it, especially if this gets out of hand.

    They will have your DNA, but that's not a terribly big deal yet. It could be down the road, though.
    Only unemployed poor people can collect benefits.



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