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    I don't know. All I know is he does a masterful job of mixing just enough fact to keep people with inquiring minds coming back for more with just enough obvious bull to make them look like idiots if they repeat his spiel indiscriminately.
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

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    I stopped listening to that SHILL a long, long time ago. The only few times that I listened him, was more than enough.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

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    No.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    No.
    Figures.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    @donnay ,, have you read this article yet?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...rted-Post-9-11

    Give it try ;-)
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    @donnay ,, have you read this article yet?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...rted-Post-9-11

    Give it try ;-)
    Yeah, how does Alex Jones fit in?

    Again, you do not get "liberty" from any man. If liberty is taken away, it is because, as a country, we have turned our back on God.

    Just as the character in Braveheart, (William Wallace) said, "You may take our lives, but you will NEVER take our Freedom!"
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    I think of Alex like Glenn Beck or Savage . They are entertainers earning a living and have big audiences.
    Do something Danke



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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Yeah, how does Alex Jones fit in?

    Again, you do not get "liberty" from any man. If liberty is taken away, it is because, as a country, we have turned our back on God.

    Just as the character in Braveheart, (William Wallace) said, "You may take our lives, but you will NEVER take our Freedom!"

    That's the point; he doesn't.


    One of the members of my liberty group is a devout Christian. She's coming around to the ideas of liberty, but still brainwashed to some degree. She never misses an episode of AJ, but every week when I ask her if she listened to the RP Liberty Report, glossed over house/senate bills, Follow-The-Money, her answer is always NO.

    As the group of us discuss what's actually going on and ways to activate, 1. she is not privy to what we are even talking about. 2. She states that Trump will be elected again and is going to once and for all return this country to Joy and Freedom. When I ask her why Trump signed this and that, not veto any of the bills, gave tax dollars to Gates' initiatives, and funded OWS, she emphatically tells me that I am the one who is brainwashed, Trump would never do any such things!

    So you understand when I say Alex is a SHILL.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    I think of Alex like Glenn Beck or Savage . They are entertainers earning a living and have big audiences.
    I don't blame them for making a buck. It's the people who are retards stoopid.

    Thank the FED and everything it does for that.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    If by govt agent is defined as being pd I would guess not . Disclaimer though , I never listen to him.
    Do something Danke

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    I am not sure what he is but I do like the iodine he sells on his website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    That's the point; he doesn't.


    One of the members of my liberty group is a devout Christian. She's coming around to the ideas of liberty, but still brainwashed to some degree. She never misses an episode of AJ, but every week when I ask her if she listened to the RP Liberty Report, glossed over house/senate bills, Follow-The-Money, her answer is always NO.

    As the group of us discuss what's actually going on and ways to activate, 1. she is not privy to what we are even talking about. 2. She states that Trump will be elected again and is going to once and for all return this country to Joy and Freedom. When I ask her why Trump signed this and that, not veto any of the bills, gave tax dollars to Gates' initiatives, and funded OWS, she emphatically tells me that I am the one who is brainwashed, Trump would never do any such things!

    So you understand when I say Alex is a SHILL.
    No.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    No.
    Well, @acptulsa summed it up in Post #2.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    I highly doubt it. This has been discussed here for almost 15 years. I've kept an open mind, but haven't seen any indication that he is anything other than a guy who is really motivated to take down the deep state NWO.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."



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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I highly doubt it. This has been discussed here for almost 15 years. I've kept an open mind, but haven't seen any indication that he is anything other than a guy who is really motivated to take down the deep state NWO.
    That's nice. What killed all those bees, again?
    "Stupidity got us into this mess. Why can't it get us out?"--Will Rogers

    "All I know is what I read in the newspapers, and that's an alibi for my ignorance."--Will Rogers

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    No.
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I highly doubt it. This has been discussed here for almost 15 years. I've kept an open mind, but haven't seen any indication that he is anything other than a guy who is really motivated to take down the deep state NWO.
    Sorry if you are fans. I was not a really big fan or anything but was saddened to learn he is controlled opposition after spending some time with him 7 years back.
    This was not about him not having me on his show this is about how he tried to teach me a lesson to keep my mouth shut.

    I monitored his show recently and had to shut it off in anger. He has not changed. He states the truth then provides cover repeatedly for certain people or issues. He is basically controlling the narrative for the elites. He is doing damage control for them. If he did not pull his antics it is possible some legitimate organization with a beef within the club would report the truth.

    He solves the problem the elites have in keeping the truth out of mainstream news. Someone will report the truth unless the story is sent to a virtual jail called a conspiracy theory. That is where Alex comes in and covers the truth while controlling the narrative. The news media then has justification to the average folks why they don't cover it. If it is on Alex Jones, it is called a conspiracy theory. No one will dare touch the story after that as not be associated with a "conspiracy theory". The truth basically relegated to a conspiracy theory in the mind of the average folks for years to come.

    Enjoy the show. Just realize he is not on your side. The elites simply threw you a few crumbs from their table to protect themselves.
    Last edited by kahless; 09-11-2021 at 08:24 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Sorry if you are fans. I was not a really big fan or anything but was saddened to learn he is controlled opposition after spending some time with him 7 years back.This was not about him not having me on his show this is about how he tried to teach me a lesson to keep my mouth shut.


    I monitored his show recently and had to shut it off in anger. He has not changed. He states the truth then provides cover repeatedly for certain people or issues. He is basically controlling the narrative for the elites. He is doing damage control for them. If he did not pull his antics it is possible some legitimate organization with a beef within the club would report the truth.


    He solves the problem the elites have in keeping the truth out of mainstream news. Someone will report the truth unless the story is sent to a virtual jail called a conspiracy theory. That is where Alex comes in and covers the truth while controlling the narrative. The news media then has justification to the average folks why they don't cover it. If it is on Alex Jones, it is called a conspiracy theory. No one will dare touch the story after that as not be associated with a "conspiracy theory". The truth basically relegated to a conspiracy theory in the mind of the average folks for years to come.


    Enjoy the show. Just realize he is not on your side. The elites simply threw you a few crumbs from their table to protect themselves.
    A couple other options..

    Let's say that you think the zionists control the world, and you are concerned that he doesn't focus enough on them. It could be that he is against the zionists, consistently speaks out against them, but believes that the zionists are just a cover for actors who are apart of the larger NWO and so instead of railing against zionists constantly, he just rails against the NWO.

    The other option is that the above is mostly true, but he thinks the zionists are a bigger threat than he leads on, but doesn't choose to rail against them by name constantly because he doesn't want to be associated with people like David Duke and others who are, or are at least perceived to be anti-semites. This would be a tactical decision.
    Last edited by dannno; 09-11-2021 at 01:28 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    A couple other options..

    No... @kahless pretty much nailed it.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    That's the point; he doesn't.


    One of the members of my liberty group is a devout Christian. She's coming around to the ideas of liberty, but still brainwashed to some degree. She never misses an episode of AJ, but every week when I ask her if she listened to the RP Liberty Report, glossed over house/senate bills, Follow-The-Money, her answer is always NO.

    As the group of us discuss what's actually going on and ways to activate, 1. she is not privy to what we are even talking about. 2. She states that Trump will be elected again and is going to once and for all return this country to Joy and Freedom. When I ask her why Trump signed this and that, not veto any of the bills, gave tax dollars to Gates' initiatives, and funded OWS, she emphatically tells me that I am the one who is brainwashed, Trump would never do any such things!

    So you understand when I say Alex is a SHILL.
    There are two paths to liberty.


    One path is to pretend the deep state cabal doesn't exist, and just go out and say "I want freedom" and push for that at all costs, even when it makes the deep state more powerful (i.e. allowing monopolistic social media companies that are propped up and funded by the deep state to censor speech that goes against the cabal or is in favor of liberty, because they are a "private business")


    The other path is to take out the deep state cabal, even if that route occasionally goes against certain liberty principles - i.e. building a border wall that will help stop more people from coming here to vote who don't believe in liberty, because the government incentivizes them by giving them money when they get here. Optimally, you would want to discontinue the government funding to illegal immigrants. However, if building a border wall is a viable option, whereas discontinuing the funding to illegal immigrants is not a viable option, then you take the viable option.


    A lot of people who disagree with you don't disagree with your underlying principles, they just see that the enemy will use any means possible to win - to them, winning means we have no liberty in the end. So we need to to use any means possible, with more peaceful/liberty oriented perspective, that results in them being exposed and losing power.
    Last edited by dannno; 09-10-2021 at 05:53 PM.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    There are two paths to liberty.


    One path is to pretend the deep state cabal doesn't exist, and just go out and say "I want freedom" and push for that at all cost, even when it makes the deep state more powerful (i.e. allowing monopolistic social media companies that are propped up and funded by the deep state to censor speech that goes against the cabal or is in favor of liberty)
    Counter-economics helps to defund the government. One has to break the conditioning that in order to defeat government/corporatists you need to participate in it.

    The other path is to take out the deep state cabal, even if that route occasionally goes against certain liberty principles - i.e. building a border wall that will help stop more people from coming here to vote who don't believe in liberty, because the government incentivizes them by giving them money when they get here.
    So, suspend the Bill of Rights, and restrict my individual freedoms is a "sensible" solution. Let me guess -- you support that 100 mile Constitution-Free Zone surrounding the entire country and Domestic TSA coming to a town nearest you. Thanks, but NO.


    A lot of people who disagree with you don't disagree with your underlying principles, they just see that the enemy will use any means possible to win - to them, winning means we have no liberty in the end. So we need to to use any means possible, with more peaceful/liberty oriented perspective, that results in them losing power.
    I understand your sentiment. But sacrificing liberty... you deserve neither liberty nor security.

    They are not the enemy. They do not hate us for our freedoms. It is the American People,,, politicians, and lobbyists, who do.
    “The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.”

    An Agorist Primer

  26. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    A couple other options..

    Let's say that you think the zionists control the world, and you are concerned that he doesn't focus enough on them. It could be that he is against the zionists, consistently speaks out against them, but believes that the zionists are just a cover for actors who are apart of the larger NWO and so instead of railing against zionists constantly, he just rails against the NWO.

    The other option is that the above is mostly true, but he thinks the zionists are a bigger threat than he leads on, but doesn't choose to rail against them by name constantly because he doesn't want to be associated with people like David Duke and others who are, or are at least perceived to be anti-semites. This would be a tactical decision.
    This was not anything tactical, it was covering for certain individuals.
    Last edited by kahless; 09-11-2021 at 12:51 AM.
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    I haven't listed to AJ even once since he fired David Knight.

    Other than that, AJ sold some pretty good toothpaste.

    David Knight is the real deal.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    I haven't listed to AJ even once since he fired David Knight.

    Other than that, AJ sold some pretty good toothpaste.

    David Knight is the real deal.
    I do not know much about him but I remember reviewing some stuff about his firing thinking he was probably onto Jones being a fraud. Some of Jones staff knew I was the real deal and were not happy about what happened between Jones and I. I can't remember the names at the moment but remember they were fired eventually also. Probably enough was enough of real people coming to the show only to be threatened.
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