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    Biden Asks OSHA to Order Vaccine Mandates at Businesses With 100 or More Workers

    Hard to imagine if any news channels would still be discussing messy Afghan exit (that may have been bungled due to earlier annoucement to withdraw troops by Sep 11th) after today's media headlines announcing sweeping domestic changes :

    Biden Asks OSHA to Order Vaccine Mandates at Large Employers

    The agency is expected to issue an emergency temporary standard to carry out the requirement, which will affect more than 80 million workers.

    A new rule requiring vaccinations or regular tests would apply to companies with more than 100 employees.Credit...Jenna Schoenefeld for The New York Times

    By Lauren Hirsch
    Sept. 9, 2021Updated 7:16 p.m. ET

    New federal safety regulations that call for businesses with more than 100 workers to require vaccinations against the coronavirus will affirm mandates already in place at many companies and give cover to employers that had yet to decide.
    The proposed rules, which President Biden announced on Thursday, will require workers to be inoculated or face weekly testing and will mandate that the businesses offer employees paid time off to get vaccinated. They are the government’s biggest push yet to draw employers into a campaign to vaccinate the country.
    Some 80 million workers will be affected. The requirements will be imposed by the Department of Labor and its Occupational Safety and Health Administration, which is drafting an emergency temporary standard to carry out the mandate, according to the White House.

    nytimes.com/2021/09/09/business/osha-vaccine-biden-mandate.html


    Un-Related

    Employees at Trump’s Chicago hotel got vaccinated early, thanks to a hospital whose COO lives in the building
    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...-the-building/



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    Do you regret voting for him yet ?
    Do something Danke

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    I have to admit, I thought the insurance route would be the way they'd go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Do you regret voting for him yet ?
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to oyarde again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to oyarde again.
    Got it covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    You may have a point there.
    You don't see the difference? Not surprised.



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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You don't see the difference? Not surprised.
    On vax drives, I see no difference between Biden and Trump... except perhaps Biden is slow walking on this compared to warp speed Trump if we go in details.
    Sleepy Joe Biden taking over 8 months to obtain Vax FDA approval vs Trump obtaining Vax FDA EUA (emergency use authorization) in 48 hours (after threatening to fire FDA chief) is just one example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    On vax drives, I see no difference between Biden and Trump... except perhaps Biden is slow walking on this compared to warp speed Trump if we go in details.
    Sleepy Joe Biden taking over 8 months to obtain Vax FDA approval vs Trump obtaining Vax FDA EUA (emergency use authorization) in 48 hours (after threatening to fire FDA chief) is just one example.
    Didn't think you would see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    On vax drives, I see no difference between Biden and Trump... except perhaps Biden is slow walking on this compared to warp speed Trump if we go in details.
    Sleepy Joe Biden taking over 8 months to obtain Vax FDA approval vs Trump obtaining Vax FDA EUA (emergency use authorization) in 48 hours (after threatening to fire FDA chief) is just one example.
    I dislike agreeing with this agent, but this comment is correct. There is no difference, except for the face talking at you. And yes, Trump laid the architecture for everything coming at us with WarpSpeed, like it or not Trumpsters.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    There is no difference, except for the face talking at you. And yes, Trump laid the architecture for everything coming at us with WarpSpeed, like it or not Trumpsters.
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Didn't think you would see it.
    No big deal, people can have different perspectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    No big deal, people can have different perspectives.
    I just love how you crop and edit to fit your needs.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    belan78, by any chance offended by this foreign policy thread or this Charles K thread posted today?
    If so, why not post any comments (emotional or logical) there instead of random rambling in other threads.
    Nothing I say is rambling. I've not paid attention to this site since I called out AF and some others for using race baiting as a means to stir up ineffectual anger, so I have no idea about that thread. But if it's about foreign policy I can guarantee it's something the Fed Gov shouldnt be doing.
    Last edited by belian78; 09-09-2021 at 07:53 PM.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Forget the squabbling.

    DO. NOT. COMPLY.

    No matter how they threaten you. Do not comply. Period.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    The afghan circus is nothing but a way to keep boogeymen convenient, repurpose assets back stateside, and stir up distraction and ineffectual anger in all the wrong directions. Things were always going to be dropped the way they were.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Forget the squabbling.

    DO. NOT. COMPLY.

    No matter how they threaten you. Do not comply. Period.
    On this you and I agree 100%.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You don't see the difference? Not surprised.
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    On vax drives, I see no difference between Biden and Trump...
    There's clearly a difference between business demanding it of their workers and government demanding that business require it. That difference was blurred by the fact that government spends so damned much money, it could go quite a long way toward implementing this merely by demanding it of companies which, directly or indirectly, do business with it. But Biden just cleaned up the fuzzy edges.

    This does not mean that the orange figurehead wouldn't have kept this schedule just as Chester the Molester did. That question can never be answered, except perhaps by personal belief.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Forget the squabbling.

    DO. NOT. COMPLY.
    This. Partisanship is now officially academic. The wolf is at the door.

    Neither a donkey not an elephant is your friend, if they're holding a gun in one hand and a syringe in the other.
    Last edited by acptulsa; 09-09-2021 at 08:08 PM.
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    I hereby declare the U.S. government more dangerous to my health and well being than this COVID disease.
    I guess I'll be taking a leave of absence until this nonsense blows over.
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
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    It Was A Con – White House Has No Idea When, or Even If, OSHA Will Ever Provide Rules to Support Legally Enforceable Worker Vaccine Mandate
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ccine-mandate/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It Was A Con – White House Has No Idea When, or Even If, OSHA Will Ever Provide Rules to Support Legally Enforceable Worker Vaccine Mandate
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ccine-mandate/
    Yep, just gave businesses an excuse to head off OSHA and create their own mandates..
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    But wait. I was told by people here that I can quit and work somewhere else!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    belan78, by any chance offended by this foreign policy thread or this Charles K thread posted today?
    If so, why not post any comments (emotional or logical) there instead of random rambling in other threads.


    LOL. Says the clown who links every thread to Israel.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Hard to imagine if any news channels would still be discussing messy Afghan exit (that may have been bungled due to earlier annoucement to withdraw troops by Sep 11th) after today's media headlines announcing sweeping domestic changes :
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It Was A Con – White House Has No Idea When, or Even If, OSHA Will Ever Provide Rules to Support Legally Enforceable Worker Vaccine Mandate
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ccine-mandate/
    Multiple news headlines generation (including headlines about Vax FDA approval/non-approval creating ambiguity) may have been timed to distract attention away from these more troubling news from prior week:


    Wave of Republicans call for Biden impeachment
    August 26, 2021 —
    A wave of prominent Republican lawmakers on Thursday called for President Joe Biden to be impeached or to resign, arguing his decisions created..



    Ten members of one family, including several children, killed following US drone strike in Kabul, family says
    The US military says it is still investigating reports of civilian deaths after it launched a drone strike on a vehicle believed to be an imminent threat heading to Kabul airport.
    Monday 30 August 2021

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    ...to distract attention away from these more troubling news from prior week:


    Says the king of distraction. lol

    Here, lemme make it easier for you, chief.


    No!







    Yes!



    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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    Oh wait. I just check who made the thread. It was Enhanced Deficit. He derail his own thread!
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
    Quote Originally Posted by Influenza View Post
    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    But wait. I was told by people here that I can quit and work somewhere else!
    If you quit you can't get unemployment. If you're fired over a Covid mandate you probably can't either. So just die already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It Was A Con – White House Has No Idea When, or Even If, OSHA Will Ever Provide Rules to Support Legally Enforceable Worker Vaccine Mandate
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ccine-mandate/
    Nope - still moving forward...

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamand...h=3db621981c0d

    President Joe Biden didn’t just announce a Covid-19 vaccine mandate on companies employing 100 or more people, he plans to enforce it.

    On Saturday, Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s House quietly tucked an enforcement mechanism into their $3.5 trillion “reconciliation” bill, passed it out of the Budget Committee, and sent it to the House floor.

    Buried on page 168 of the House Democrats’ 2,465-page mega bill is a tenfold increase in fines for employers that “willfully,” “repeatedly,” or even seriously violate a section of labor law that deals with hazards, death, or serious physical harm to their employees.

    The increased fines on employers could run as high as $70,000 for serious infractions, and $700,000 for willful or repeated violations—almost three-quarters of a million dollars for each fine. If enacted into law, vax enforcement could bankrupt non-compliant companies even more quickly than the $14,000 OSHA fine anticipated under Biden’s announced mandate.
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    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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