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    Question If Trump was right about Obama being 'Founder of ISIS', who is founder of ISIS-K variant?

    Without the benefit of Trump's insightful tweets about origins of outfits like ISIS (vis-a-vis US Syria intervention), will the public ever know who is the Founder of 'ISIS-K'.. the latest variant that is suddenly dominating media headlines and appears poised to impact US Afghan intervention policy?

    US carries out Kabul airstrike targeting ISIS-K
    CNN
    August 29, 2021



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    Flashback

    Obama authorises air strikes against Isis militants in Syria
    theguardian
    Sep 10, 2014
    President Obama announces in televised address that US will target ISIS in Syria for the first time.

    U.S. Admits Airstrike in Syria, Meant to Hit ISIS, Killed Syrian Troops
    NYT
    Sep 17, 2016



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    Obama
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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Obama
    He's already being credited with 'founding fathering' of the original variant, to be fair K-variant appeared in headlines way after he had left office unless I'm mistaken.

    Maybe just coincidence, headlines shifting again post Trump. Suddenly B-variant was in top headlines also this week.




    Member of ISIS ‘Beatles’ Cell Plans to Plead Guilty in Abuse of Hostages

    An upcoming change-of-plea hearing for Alexanda Kotey suggests he is cooperating with prosecutors and could provide details about victims.

    By Charlie Savage and Katie Benner
    Aug. 31, 2021
    WASHINGTON — A notorious British member of the Islamic State who is facing federal charges over accusations that he helped jail and tortured Western hostages is preparing to plead guilty, according to a court notice filed late Tuesday.

    A terse filing in the public docket for the case against the man, Alexanda Kotey, announced the scheduling of a “change-of-plea hearing” for 5:30 p.m. Thursday before the judge overseeing the case, T.S. Ellis III of the Federal District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia. He had initially pleaded not guilty.
    Mr. Kotey was part of an ISIS cell of four Britons called “the Beatles” — a nickname bestowed by their victims because of their accents — and known for their extreme brutality. Some of the group’s victims were beheaded for propaganda videos, including the American journalists James Foley and Steven J. Sotloff. Their bodies have not been found.
    nytimes.com/2021/08/31/us/politics/isis-beatles-alexanda-kotey.html


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    After 20 years of freedom and security spread projects that cost many lives/limbs in blood and $Trillions in treasure, what kind of situation we left behind in Afghanistan?

    Taliban official: At least 100 dead, wounded in Afghan blast

    ISIS Bomber Kills Dozens at Shiite Mosque in Northern Afghanistan

    The Islamic State Khorasan claimed responsibility for the attack in Kunduz, continuing its campaign of predation against the Hazara Shiite minority into a new era of Taliban rule.

    By Thomas Gibbons-Neff and Wali Arian
    Oct. 8, 2021
    KABUL, Afghanistan — An Islamic State suicide bomber devastated a Shiite mosque in the northern Afghan city of Kunduz on Friday, killing dozens of worshipers in a deadly continuation of the terrorist group’s campaign against the Hazara minority.

    The massacre, while the mosque was crowded for Friday Prayer, was the group’s second attack against a mosque in just a few days. And it was the realization of Afghan Hazaras’ fears that the Islamic State’s predation would go unchecked under the rule of the Taliban, which itself preyed on the Hazara in the past.

    ISIS-K is a Sunni extremist group that has long targeted Shiite Muslims in Afghanistan, focusing heavily on the Hazara ethnic minority, which is predominantly Shiite. Most of Afghanistan is Sunni, and ethnic Pashtuns — who make up most of the Taliban’s ranks — are a plurality in the country.
    ISIS-K also staged an attack several days ago outside a mosque in Kabul, the capital, which killed several people.
    nytimes.com/2021/10/08/world/asia/afghanistan-mosque-attack.html


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    Who made who? Who made you?
    Who made who? Ain’t nobody told you?

    Who made who? Who made you?
    If you made them and they made you

    Who picked up the bill and who made who?
    Who made who? Who turned the screw?

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      -- The Law (p. 54)
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