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    Exclamation Israel: Vaxx effective rate against India Variant - 39 percent

    Israel says Pfizer Covid vaccine is just 39% effective as delta spreads, but still prevents severe illness

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/23/delt...e-illness.html

    Published Fri, Jul 23 20211:23 PM EDTUpdated 20 Min Ago

    By: Berkeley Lovelace Jr.

    Pfizer and BioNTech’s Covid-19 vaccine is just 39% effective in Israel where the delta variant is the dominant strain, according to a new report from the country’s Health Ministry.

    The two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data.

    (Isn't that about what the illness and hospitalization rate would be anyway? - AF)
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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Wow this is pretty low number, few weeks ago they had cited 64% figure. Hopefully vax politics is not driving shifting numbers.

    BTW, Indian government had recently asked that new name "Delta variant" be used.. politically correct thing would be to avoid further use of above name in new reports.

    https://twitter.com/erbmjha/status/1397802303525048320
    No.

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    The COVID vaccine seems to have no impact whatsoever on preventing Delta cases (not even 39%), as the percentage of Delta infection roughly the same as how much Israeli were vaxxed.



    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The two-dose vaccine still works very well in preventing people from getting seriously sick, demonstrating 88% effectiveness against hospitalization and 91% effectiveness against severe illness, according to the Israeli data.
    It's great that our wonderful media keep repeating this bull$hit that even though the efficacy of the experimental COVID vaccines isn't anywhere near the supposed 95% after 2 doses, it is still over 90% effective at preventing "severe" COVID....

    In Israel by 6 July, around 85% of reported "COVID Delta infections" were fully vaccinated.



    More importantly, the COVID vaxxed develop symptoms by a ratio of 5:1.
    The COVID vaxxed have a higher risk to get so severely ill that they wound up in hospital.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    No.


    Guess Trump demanding use of non-goegraphic variant name in this case after using term "Wuhan virus" would be hypocritical, in quick lookup of news did not see any tweet/statement from him to that effect.

    But stumbled on some other interesting news, apparently some foreign media continues to call original virus "Wuhan virus" and wiki shows that one media outlet that appears to be a prolific user of this term is backed by ruling party of Indian government.. and same goverment had recently demanded this:

    TIME Magazine's Twitter

    Taking umbrage to the term 'Indian variant' of COVID-19, the Ministry of Electronics and Information Technology (MEITY) on Friday issued a directive to all social media platforms to 'remove all content referring to or implying to the 'Indian variant' immediately. The Centre cited the recent clarification made by World Health Organisation (WHO) stating that the B.1.617.2 variant in India was not classified as the 'Indian variant'.

    American news magazine TIME has however termed it as the Government’s ‘clamping down’ on social media. In its latest article, TIME has claimed that India’s new internet rules do not give the government the legal basis to demand such a “broad takedown like removal of the term Indian variant.
    Gravitas: Should you mix and match Wuhan Virus vaccines?
    wionews.com › videos › gravitas-should-y...
    Jul 13, 2021 — W.H.O has warned against vaccine cocktails, but Angela Merkel and Justin Trudeau have endorsed it.

    Is the Wuhan virus here to stay?, Gravitas News | wionews.com
    wionews.com › videos › gravitas-is-the-wu...
    Jun 4, 2021 — Is the Wuhan virus here to stay? More than 24 rich countries have already bought 6 billion vaccine doses..

    Gravitas: India gets a new drug to treat Wuhan virus
    wionews.com
    May 26, 2021 — India has got a new drug to treat Wuhan virus patients. It can help mild to moderate patients recover quickly.

    WION - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org › wiki › WION_(TV_channel)
    WION (World is One News) is an Indian multinational English language news channel headquartered in New Delhi. It is owned by the Essel Group



    Wikimedia Commons
    File:The President, Shri Pranab Mukherjee addressing at the 90 years celebrations of the Essel Group, in New Delhi on May 14, 2017. The Prime Minister, Shri Narendra Modi and other dignitaries are

    So that was hypocritical pressure on naming conventions from this government it seems that is one of the largest exporters of covid vaccines. I won't be raising political correctness argument on this issue anymore.

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    Don't know about Delta variant...

    In Iceland a whopping 90% of people between the ages of 40-70 and 98% older than 70 are "fully vaccinated" against COVID.

    Epidemiologist Ţórólfur Guđnason announced that because the COVID vaccines do not work the lockdown will continue: https://freewestmedia.com/2021/07/28...s-do-not-work/
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    I'm shocked! So they rigged the 2-month trials to come up with a 95% efficacy rate for the COVID vaccines.
    Now they admit that the efficacy rate is not even 50%.

    So instead of criminally charging the psychopaths that have been lying to us to get us vaccinated with biochemical weapons, they now offer third jabs!
    There is of course no reason at all to believe that this will prevent COVID infections, but hey let's all cheer "trust the pseudoscience". Who cares about proper placebo-controlled medical trials anyway?

    Israel has already approved a third "booster" shot of the experimental not properly tested COVID vaccines to people older than 60. Doesn't it matter that this wasn't tested?!?

    Pfizer is expected to apply for US emergency authorisation for third booster shots next month: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...ab-to-the-over
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