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    Exclamation Top of Drudge: Trump "Hitler did a lot of good things"

    Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...el-bender-book

    Martin Pengelly Wed 7 Jul 2021 09.24 EDT

    On a visit to Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the first world war, Donald Trump insisted to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: “Well, Hitler did a lot of good things.”

    The remark from the former US president on the 2018 trip, which reportedly “stunned” Kelly, a retired US Marine Corps general, is reported in a new book by Michael Bender of the Wall Street Journal.

    Frankly, We Did Win This Election has been widely trailed ahead of publication next week. The Guardian obtained a copy.

    Bender reports that Trump made the remark during an impromptu history lesson in which Kelly “reminded the president which countries were on which side during the conflict” and “connected the dots from the first world war to the second world war and all of Hitler’s atrocities”.

    Bender is one of a number of authors to have interviewed Trump since he was ejected from power.

    In a statement a Trump spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said: “This is totally false. President Trump never said this. It is made-up fake news, probably by a general who was incompetent and was fired.”

    But Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred”, emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.

    “Kelly pushed back again,” Bender writes, “and argued that the German people would have been better off poor than subjected to the Nazi genocide.”

    Bender adds that Kelly told Trump that even if his claim about the German economy under the Nazis after 1933 were true, “you cannot ever say anything supportive of Adolf Hitler. You just can’t.”

    Trump ran into considerable trouble on the centennial trip to Europe, even beyond his usual conflicts with other world leaders.

    A decision to cancel a visit to an American cemetery proved controversial. Trump was later reported to have called US soldiers who died in the war “losers” and “suckers”.

    Kelly, whose son was killed in Afghanistan in 2010, left the White House in early 2019. He has spoken critically of Trump since, reportedly telling friends the president he served was “the most flawed person I have ever met in my life”.

    Bender writes that Kelly did his best to overcome Trump’s “stunning disregard for history”.

    “Senior officials described his understanding of slavery, Jim Crow, or the Black experience in general post-civil war as vague to non-existent,” he writes. “But Trump’s indifference to Black history was similar to his disregard for the history of any race, religion or creed.”

    Concern over the rise of the far right in the US grew during Trump’s time in power and continues, as he maintains a grip on a Republican party determined to obstruct investigations of the deadly 6 January assault on the US Capitol by supporters seeking to overturn his election defeat.

    (Lying media Marxists lie. - AF)

    Trump has made positive remarks about far-right and white supremacist groups.

    During a presidential debate in 2020, Trump was asked if he would denounce white supremacists and militia groups. He struggled with the answer and eventually told the far-right Proud Boys group to “stand back and stand by”.

    In 2017, in the aftermath of a neo-Nazi march in Virginia which earned supportive remarks from Trump, the German magazine Stern used on its cover an illustration of Trump giving a Nazi salute while wrapped in the US flag. Its headline: “Sein Kampf” – his struggle.
    According to government's own numbers, over half a MILLION people are dead, just in the US alone, because of a man made virus designed to be even more deadly than what would be found in nature, released, possibly on purpose, from a Chinese lab, a virus that that was created from funding and prior research given to the Chinese scientists by our own government because we, in fit of sanity, pulled the plug on funding here.



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    Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred”, emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.
    That should be all the evidence anyone needs. "Unnamed sources", which is just as good as "unnamed officials".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    That should be all the evidence anyone needs. "Unnamed sources", which is just as good as "unnamed officials".
    Yup. Surprised this didn't come from that paragon of journalism The New York Times.

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    Bender reports that Trump made the remark during an impromptu history lesson in which Kelly “reminded the president which countries were on which side during the conflict” and “connected the dots from the first world war to the second world war and all of Hitler’s atrocities”.

    Bender is one of a number of authors to have interviewed Trump since he was ejected from power.

    In a statement a Trump spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said: “This is totally false. President Trump never said this. It is made-up fake news, probably by a general who was incompetent and was fired.”

    But Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred”, emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.

    “Kelly pushed back again,” Bender writes, “and argued that the German people would have been better off poor than subjected to the Nazi genocide.”

    Bender adds that Kelly told Trump that even if his claim about the German economy under the Nazis after 1933 were true, “you cannot ever say anything supportive of Adolf Hitler. You just can’t.”
    What a load of Marxist propaganda and conditioning. Note what is really going on here. Even if Trump off-handedly and insensitively said that Hitler led an economic recovery, how is that so controversial? Hitler also did many very bad things. Did Trump deny that? If Hitler had eggs Benedict for breakfast, does that make eggs Benedict evil for all of eternity? Thus, anything can be demonized by saying “Hitler did that”.

    But it doesn't stop with Hitler. That was but one example. Now we have the Founding Fathers and everything they ever did being demonized because “slavery existed”. “Declaration of Independence”? Evil. “Bills of Rights”? Evil.

    The Marxist propagandists love to manipulate language and create meaningless linkages and guilts by association. It is invalid pseudo-logic, used to demonize anything and anyone that they choose. And it never applies to them. Some animals are more equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    What a load of Marxist propaganda and conditioning. Note what is really going on here. Even if Trump off-handedly and insensitively said that Hitler led an economic recovery, how is that so controversial? Hitler also did many very bad things. Did Trump deny that? If Hitler had eggs Benedict for breakfast, does that make eggs Benedict evil for all of eternity? Thus, anything can be demonized by saying “Hitler did that”.

    But it doesn't stop with Hitler. That was but one example. Now we have the Founding Fathers and everything they ever did being demonized because “slavery existed”. “Declaration of Independence”? Evil. “Bills of Rights”? Evil.

    The Marxist propagandists love to manipulate language and create meaningless linkages and guilts by association. It is invalid pseudo-logic, used to demonize anything and anyone that they choose. And it never applies to them. Some animals are more equal.
    Bing-$#@!ing-go.
    According to government's own numbers, over half a MILLION people are dead, just in the US alone, because of a man made virus designed to be even more deadly than what would be found in nature, released, possibly on purpose, from a Chinese lab, a virus that that was created from funding and prior research given to the Chinese scientists by our own government because we, in fit of sanity, pulled the plug on funding here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    What a load of Marxist propaganda and conditioning. Note what is really going on here. Even if Trump off-handedly and insensitively said that Hitler led an economic recovery, how is that so controversial? Hitler also did many very bad things. Did Trump deny that? If Hitler had eggs Benedict for breakfast, does that make eggs Benedict evil for all of eternity? Thus, anything can be demonized by saying “Hitler did that”.

    But it doesn't stop with Hitler. That was but one example. Now we have the Founding Fathers and everything they ever did being demonized because “slavery existed”. “Declaration of Independence”? Evil. “Bills of Rights”? Evil.

    The Marxist propagandists love to manipulate language and create meaningless linkages and guilts by association. It is invalid pseudo-logic, used to demonize anything and anyone that they choose. And it never applies to them. Some animals are more equal.

    Yup!

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    It is the dogma of political correctness. How dare you state something which may even be true, if it is associated with someone like Hitler. It is definitely a barrier to truth-seeking.

    However I don't associate this with Marxism. I associate this with the hyper-ambitious soulless careerists who are used to standing on whatever pile of dead bodies it takes to get themselves ahead in the elite ruling class. Basically everyone from the media and in government loves a way to put other people down as not following the proper etiquette, while they constantly lie to people and obscure the truth. They are the same people constantly trying to lie us into wars and take away our freedoms. They enjoy ruling over us and policing our speech because without it, they'd be without a distraction and forced to deal with their own inner voids.
    The enemy of my enemy may be worse than my enemy.

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    Noone is perfect. So what if Hitler got a couple things wrong. He was probably an otherwise decent guy.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Noone is perfect. So what if Hitler got a couple things wrong. He was probably an otherwise decent guy.
    He was a pretty good artist..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    He was a pretty good artist..

    Not bad.

    Ironically, it is the left that always pushes the idea that it is “artists” that need to be promoted and that will save mankind. Maybe that goes without saying, as it is artists that usually create much of the propaganda, especially via the “arts”. How much money did theaters and Hollywood get from the mega stimulus-relief-infrastructure bills?

    Maybe Hitler is a good example of what putting artists in charge gets you. Was Stalin an actor? Mao a flute player? Lenin a guitar player?
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    Hitler was also an innovator. He always had a couple ideas in the oven
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    Didn't Hitler design or have the idea for the Volkswagen Beetle?

    Didn't Obama make GM vehicles government owned in the 2009 bailout?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    On alt media sites the agenda has been for the last year or so to introduce a 'new conspiracy theory' to muddy the waters so to speak. It goes that 'the evil satanic pedophilic elite' have changed the history around WWII, Hitler and the Nazi regime. Hitler was really a super hero that was trying to save the world from the evil elite. I'm not kidding, I've even heard people having conversations on cell phones talking about this, it's how I came across it actually. So, it's a perfect storm to sell the racist, nazi right coming back to life story being put forth by the media. And of course, Trump is playing his part exactly as he's supposed to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Didn't Hitler design or have the idea for the Volkswagen Beetle?
    Please don't be gullible.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...bout-Socialism

    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Didn't Obama make GM vehicles government owned in the 2009 bailout?
    The federal government has owned more GM vehicles than you could possibly count. But no, they haven't nationalized them all. Yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Please try to post links that are relevant.

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...om-Afghanistan
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    Huh? How is pointing out a historical point, being gullible or applauding socialism?



    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The federal government has owned more GM vehicles than you could possibly count. But no, they haven't nationalized them all. Yet.
    My point is the hypocrisy holds no bounds; no media talkinghead's asses caught on fire when Obama made GM, government motors. Amazing how this kind of socialism creeps right in with not a lot of outrage from the usual suspects?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner



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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Huh? How is pointing out a historical point, being gullible or applauding socialism?
    The historical point would be clear if you'd click on the link I provided and peruse the thread. Hitler didn't design $#@!. Ferdinand Porsche he was not, and no one wants you to believe he was but the ghosts of the Nazi propagandists you're echoing.

    If reading the damned thread is too much for you, here it is in a nutshell: Germany didn't need the VW, it had the DKW. Germany didn't get the VW from Hitler, just a war which nearly destroyed it. And Hitler's grand contribution to the design was, essentially, saying, "Ooh, I like the headlights of that Czech Tatra, steal those and put them on it."
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    Sometimes the news media gets it right and not sure why this is suddenly far fetched or some conspiracy, old news really. The man studied him and used the knowledge to play the masses to win.

    Coming directly from his ex-wife.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/07/trum...ok-claims.html
    Vanity Fair magazine reported in 1990 that Ivana Trump told her lawyer that Donald Trump on occasion “reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, ‘My New Order,’ which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.”

    When the Vanity Fair reporter asked Trump himself if Trump’s cousin had given him that book, the magazine reported that “Trump hesitated.”

    “Who told you that?” Trump asked, according to the magazine.

    Trump then said: “Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of ‘Mein Kampf,’ and he’s a Jew.”

    Davis told Vanity Fair: “I did give him a book about Hitler ... But it was ‘My New Order,’ Hitler’s speeches, not ’Mein Kampf.′”

    “I thought he would find it interesting,” Davis said. “I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

    Trump told the magazine, ″If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    The historical point would be clear if you'd click on the link I provided and peruse the thread. Hitler didn't design $#@!. Ferdinand Porsche he was not, and no one wants you to believe he was but the ghosts of the Nazi propagandists you're echoing.

    If reading the damned thread is too much for you, here it is in a nutshell: Germany didn't need the VW, it had the DKW. Germany didn't get the VW from Hitler, just a war which nearly destroyed it. And Hitler's grand contribution to the design was, essentially, saying, "Ooh, I like the headlights of that Czech Tatra, steal those and put them on it."
    I went to the thread and read it. Bloviate much? mea culpa, Hitler proposed an idea.

    Probably the most popular car in the world, Beetle had fascinating past. It was proposed by Adolf Hitler to make peoples car that can fit 5 people and deliver speed of 100km/h (62mph) later known as “Volks-Wagen” (“People’s Car”). Beetle was designed by Ferdinand Porsche founder of automotive design company, which became known as the Porsche Buro. Ferdinand also designed German tanks, Tiger I and Tiger II. The first Porsche ever build was Porsche 356 created by Ferry Porsche son of Ferdinand Porsche. Porsche currently owns 31% of the Volkswagen car company.
    https://www.interestingfacts.org/fac...che-and-beetle
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    Everyone who thinks that the USA's Gun Control Act of 1968 is a good thing must believe that Hitler did at least one good thing, since that law was based on a Nazi law that was put in place in Hitler's tenure as Führer.
    http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm

    Naturally, supporters of this law include Trump. But I bet they also include General Kelly, Martin Pengelly, and the unnamed sources that article relied on.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    I went to the thread and read it. Bloviate much? mea culpa, Hitler proposed an idea.


    https://www.interestingfacts.org/fac...che-and-beetle
    Obviously you think someone bloviated in that thread, or you'd have actually read it far enough to discover the link to this:



    That just happens to be Dr. Porsche's prototype, built by and for Zundapp, of the Beetle. It had the platform frame, the transverse torsion bars, the transaxle with the clutch on the back. The photo was taken in 1931. Where was old Adolph in 1931? Look that up. The Beetle was a halfway completed project two years before the bastard came to power.

    You have a resource handy. Ask your husband to mansplain DKW and Zundapp. Stop guessing.

    What's so damned hard about conceiving of a cheap car that seats five? Especially a quarter century after the introduction of the Model T? What was Hitler's big contribution? Asking if it could be made to go 100 km/h?

    This One Good Thing Hitler Did was something private enterprise had already created. All Hitler did was finance its completion, delay its completion, and start a war that prevented its manufacture and sale. And tell Porsche to steal Airflow- and Tatra-style integrated headlights. Hitler stole the idea, and stole the credit. That is socialism in a nutshell. And people are still insisting we let him get away with it, even though no civilian owned one of the damned things during Hitler's lifetime.

    Hell, even the styling was stolen, from the Chrysler Corporation, by VW, and also by Volvo, Peugeot and Toyota. Even the idea to crib that styling was a stolen idea.


    1934 DeSoto

    Germans during the Nazi era never got to buy VWs. And they didn't need them. They had DKWs. The VW was a pacifier for the population. It was basically another campaign promise that didn't get kept.

    The part that really weirds me out about all this is the sheer number of people who have no reason to defend Hitler at all, but still defend this lie invented to glorify the psycho. Why? Because you can't admit to yourself that you believe a lie? It's an old wives' tale, and the old wife who invented it was Josef Goebbels.

    The prewar DKW:



    Not quite as fast as the VW, got better mileage--despite being a two stroke.

    The only reasons the postwar version...



    ...got outsold by the VW were, the new German government owned the factory and the rights at the time, and promoted it (to the point of closing down competitor Borgward, now there's a conspiracy one can sink some teeth into), and many hippies couldn't properly mix oil and gas.


    Borgward's Goliath 1100

    The ironic part is, today VW builds only water-cooled, front wheel drive vehicles. It became DKW.
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    According to government's own numbers, over half a MILLION people are dead, just in the US alone, because of a man made virus designed to be even more deadly than what would be found in nature, released, possibly on purpose, from a Chinese lab, a virus that that was created from funding and prior research given to the Chinese scientists by our own government because we, in fit of sanity, pulled the plug on funding here.

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    And just a couple weeks ago the loony left was creaming over General Milley

    ""I've read Mao Tse Tung. I've read Karl Marx. I've read Lenin. That doesn't make me a communist," Milley continued."
    I just want objectivity on this forum and will point out flawed sources or points of view at my leisure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudea View Post
    And just a couple weeks ago the loony left was creaming over General Milley

    ""I've read Mao Tse Tung. I've read Karl Marx. I've read Lenin. That doesn't make me a communist," Milley continued."
    Touche'
    According to government's own numbers, over half a MILLION people are dead, just in the US alone, because of a man made virus designed to be even more deadly than what would be found in nature, released, possibly on purpose, from a Chinese lab, a virus that that was created from funding and prior research given to the Chinese scientists by our own government because we, in fit of sanity, pulled the plug on funding here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Sometimes the news media gets it right and not sure why this is suddenly far fetched or some conspiracy, old news really. The man studied him and used the knowledge to play the masses to win.

    Coming directly from his ex-wife.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/07/trum...ok-claims.html
    Trump studied something? That’s the far fetched part.

    The part that is believable is an ex-wife saying that her ex-husband had skimmed a Hitler book to smear him, and it being true, and also that Trump didn't correctly remember the name of which book he was reading.
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  30. #26
    Populations elevate their leaders.

    Populations also topple them.

    Blaming one man, no matter who it is, for prosperity or tragedy is a fools game.

    Unfortunately, the world as a whole, is quite foolish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says

    Wed 7 Jul 2021 09.24 EDT
    ...

    Concern over the rise of the far right in the US grew during Trump’s time in power and continues, as he maintains a grip on a Republican party determined to obstruct investigations of the deadly 6 January assault on the US Capitol by supporters seeking to overturn his election defeat.

    (Lying media Marxists lie. - AF)
    Tend to agree with AF's comment on this.

    The guy who fashioned himself after Abraham Linclon and championed social justice, diversity had a very different persona than what fakenews tried to push and failed. He had overwhelming pro-diversity track record going back decades that negates fakenews claims trying to paint him as "Hitler lover".:


    Flashback: Trump Quits GOP, Calls Pat Buchanan "Hitler lover" While Standing Up For Diversity
    "He's a Hitler lover. I guess he's an anti-Semite. He doesn't like the blacks. He doesn't like the gays. It's just incredible that anybody could embrace this guy," Trump said.

    President Trump is modern day Abraham Lincoln

    Trump hosts Black Lives Matter activist at the White House


    Trump condemns ‘racism, bigotry and white supremacy’
    Kevin Breuninger

    10-26-2018
    Trump says very soon there will be a Black President
    While talking to black leaders earlier today, he said very soon one of you will be a President.. or three, four of you will be where I am.

    Trump to host fundraiser for Booker

    Trump Deputy AG Rosenstein on recent mass shootings: “white terrorism” is more precise

    Trump appointed FBI Director Wray says most domestic terrorism arrests this year involve white supremacy
    07/23/19

    Trump's ambassador lobbied Britain on behalf of jailed pro-diversity activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon

    Trump administration threatened Sweden to secure release of Somali-American rapper A$AP Rocky



    Aug. 3, 2019
    The U.S. government warned Sweden of "negative consequences" as it advocated for rapper ASAP Rocky during his trial for assault charges in Stockholm this week, according to a pair of letters released by the Swedish Prosecution Authority.
    According to the letters, obtained by NBC News partner Aftonbladet, the U.S. special presidential envoy for hostage affairs wrote to Swedish prosecutors urging them to release Rocky.
    "The government of the United States of America wants to resolve this case as soon as possible to avoid potentially negative consequences to the U.S.-Swedish bilateral relationship," Amb. Robert O'Brien wrote in the letter, dated Wednesday.
    In response Sweden's prosecutor-general, Petra Lundh, defended the independence of Swedish courts and said he therefore had to deny O'Brien's requests.
    "No other prosecutor, not even I, may interfere with a specific case or try to affect the prosecutor responsible," Lundh wrote in a letter dated Thursday.
    The letters marked the latest intervention by U.S. officials in a case that has commanded the attention of figures ranging from the president to Justin Bieber.


    Trump pardons Jack Johnson erasing conviction for violating Anti White Slave Act
    05/25/2018
    Jack Johnson Was Pardoned, But Taboo Sex Is Still Being Criminalized
    By Jenavieve Hatch
    President Donald Trump posthumously pardoned Jack Johnson on Thursday, erasing the black boxer’s century-old conviction for violating the Mann Act — a 1910 law that prohibited transporting “any woman or girl” across state lines “for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose” — by driving his white girlfriend from Pittsburgh to Chicago.
    All this has happened before
    The Mann Act, also known as the White-Slave Traffic Act, was enacted in response to public hysteria about sensational yet unconfirmed reports of white women being kidnapped and trafficked by foreign men.


    Trump designates Martin Luther King Jr. birthplace a national historic park





    White House threatened FDA chief for quick approval of covid vaccine developed by Turkish immigrant muslim couple

    Trump White House orders FDA chief to authorize Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine Friday or submit his resignation
    White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows on Friday told Stephen Hahn, the commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration, to submit his resignation if the agency does not clear the nation’s first coronavirus vaccine by day’s end, according to people familiar with the situation who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss what happened.
    The threat came on the same day that President Trump tweeted that the FDA is “a big, old, slow turtle” in its handling of vaccines, while exhorting Commissioner Stephen Hahn to “get the dam vaccines out NOW.” He added: “Stop playing games and start saving lives!!!”

    Türken in Deutschland (Turks in Germany)
    Brilliant Turks have found a remedy for kneejerk racism
    November 17 2020, The Times
    The world and its people might just be saved by a couple of immigrant Turks. I’m aware the BioNTech vaccine may seem old news to you, but my family and I have spent the past week hanging out our Turkish flags and I’ve only now sat down to write. I am the child of two scientists, one of whom is a Turkish immigrant, and this double connection has made me unbelievably proud of Ozlem Tureci and Ugur Sahin.

    The Husband-and-Wife Team Behind the Leading Vaccine to Solve Covid-19
    The German company BioNTech, founded by two scientists, has teamed up with Pfizer on a vaccine that was found to be more than 90 percent effective.
    In 2019, Dr. Sahin was awarded the Mustafa Prize, a biennial Iranian prize for Muslims in science and technology.
    nytimes.com/2020/11/10/business/biontech-covid-vaccine.html

  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Tend to agree with AF's comment on this.

    The guy who fashioned himself after Abraham Linclon and championed social justice, diversity had a very different persona than what fakenews tried to push and failed. He had overwhelming pro-diversity track record going back decades that negates fakenews claims trying to paint him as "Hitler lover".
    LOL - Nice try.

    I was referring to this specific comment:

    Concern over the rise of the far right in the US grew during Trump’s time in power and continues, as he maintains a grip on a Republican party determined to obstruct investigations of the deadly 6 January assault on the US Capitol by supporters seeking to overturn his election defeat.
    There was no "deadly assault" on the US Capitol.

    The only deadly violence that day was carried out by the government against an unarmed white woman.

    But I'll cede your point, that Trump, on this subject, is very much pro diversity and equality.
    According to government's own numbers, over half a MILLION people are dead, just in the US alone, because of a man made virus designed to be even more deadly than what would be found in nature, released, possibly on purpose, from a Chinese lab, a virus that that was created from funding and prior research given to the Chinese scientists by our own government because we, in fit of sanity, pulled the plug on funding here.

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  34. #30

    The Bauhaus

    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Didn't Hitler design or have the idea for the Volkswagen Beetle?

    Didn't Obama make GM vehicles government owned in the 2009 bailout?
    The VW came out of the Bauhaus movement. The Bauhaus School was a group of German artists and designers who decided that “form should follow function” and “less is more”.

    (Bauhaus) a school of design established by Walter Gropius in Weimar in 1919, best known for its designs of objects based on functionalism and simplicity.

    ...The school became famous for its approach to design, which attempted to unify the principles of mass production with individual artistic vision and strove to combine aesthetics with everyday function. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bauhaus
    It’s a concept art students are still taught. The Bauhaus School invented a ton of utilitarian objects that are still in use today, but which are taken for granted. You’d be surprised if you learned how many of your common household possessions have parts that are actually based on bauhaus designs. A lot of of it still has a “modern” look. (also art deco-y.)

    Once Hitler came to power, the government took everything over, so all the Bauhaus stuff became Hitler's stuff, and they then had to please the government (This is probably how Nazis came to have those handsome uniforms.) Of course, this ruined the trajectory of the movement for the artists and designers.

    The VW was supposed to be an inexpensive, maintainable vehicle with easily replaceable parts that you could take care of yourself - great for the consumer, but less great for a mass producer who prefers the increased sales afforded by planned obsolescence.

    As far as “Hitler did some good things” goes - well, yeah - of course he did, or he would never have gotten elected by his people. I’ve always heard this. In the beginning, he did things that seemed to make life better for many people. Nothing nefarious about admitting it. Not really a revelation.

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