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    Why hasn't Stewart Rhodes been indicted for his role in the 1/6 "insurrection"?

    I remember this guy supporting Ron Paul when he ran for president, before he started Oathkeepers. Was he one of Ron's staff? It's appearing he's a government rat. How do you all see it?

    Federal Protection of “Oath Keepers” Kingpin Stewart Rhodes Breaks The Entire Capitol “Insurrection” Lie Wide Open
    June 30, 2021

    ...The Justice Department argues that Stewart Rhodes both substantially organized and activated an imputed plan to use violence, on 1/6, in real-time, through a series of encrypted Signal messages beginning at 1:38 p.m., as Trump concluded his rally speech on the National Mall, and 62 minutes before Oath Keepers lieutenants allegedly formed a “military stack” to rush the Capitol doors.

    These facts alone, as alleged, are more than legally sufficient to secure an indictment of Stewart Rhodes. We will walk you through the mountains of direct and circumstantial evidence built on top of these allegations, but readers must understand this: the only reason Stewart Rhodes is not in jail *right now* is because of a deliberate decision by the Justice Department to protect him.

    Indeed, it is unclear whether the FBI has even sought to search Stewart Rhodes’s residence, personal belongings, or electronic devices, other than a single iPhone allegedly seized on the streets from agents in unmarked FBI vehicles in late April (since returned). For reasons discussed below, there is good reason to suspect the FBI will pursue a tightly controlled and very limited scope of investigation into Stewart Rhodes,. Beyond that narrow scope, they may not want the information they are likely to find....

    https://www.revolver.news/2021/06/st...co-conspirator



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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    I remember this guy supporting Ron Paul when he ran for president, before he started Oathkeepers. Was he one of Ron's staff? It's appearing he's a government rat. How do you all see it?
    Because it wouldn't prudent

    Now we know , thanks to Tucker Carlson , that FBI agents were actively instigating the Patriots - the FBI has refused to release 14000 hours of surveillance tape


    Furthermore :


    The following questions should be shouted from every megaphone, every street corner, and every Congressional lectern until the American people get full and complete answers:

    Does the FBI now, or has it ever, maintained a formal or informal relationship or point of contact with Stewart Rhodes, whether directly or indirectly, including through intermediaries?

    Do any other Federal counterintelligence equities, whether in military, intelligence or law enforcement, including but not limited to Army Counterintelligence, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), or otherwise, maintain or have they ever maintained a formal or informal relationship with Stewart Rhodes, whether directly or indirectly, including through intermediaries?

    If such a confidential relationship did exist between Stewart Rhodes and one or more U.S. counterintelligence equities, how do the FBI and other responsible agencies reconcile the enormous gravity of this omission from their previous deflections, non-answers, and boilerplate that they had “no actionable intelligence” before 1/6?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Because it wouldn't prudent

    Now we know , thanks to Tucker Carlson , that FBI agents were actively instigating the Patriots - the FBI has refused to release 14000 hours of surveillance tape


    Furthermore :


    The following questions should be shouted from every megaphone, every street corner, and every Congressional lectern until the American people get full and complete answers:

    Does the FBI now, or has it ever, maintained a formal or informal relationship or point of contact with Stewart Rhodes, whether directly or indirectly, including through intermediaries?

    Do any other Federal counterintelligence equities, whether in military, intelligence or law enforcement, including but not limited to Army Counterintelligence, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF), or otherwise, maintain or have they ever maintained a formal or informal relationship with Stewart Rhodes, whether directly or indirectly, including through intermediaries?

    If such a confidential relationship did exist between Stewart Rhodes and one or more U.S. counterintelligence equities, how do the FBI and other responsible agencies reconcile the enormous gravity of this omission from their previous deflections, non-answers, and boilerplate that they had “no actionable intelligence” before 1/6?


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    Could have been from the start, or could have been compromised at some point, who knows..

    Oh ya, the FBI
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    I've never believed that those that "took the oath" ever had a vested interest in reforming the status quo.

    Oath Keepers turned tail and ran at the first threat from the kops in St. Louis back in the Michael Brown days.

    They are useless.....

    or designed to be useless and ensnare the gullible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    I've never believed that those that "took the oath" ever had a vested interest in reforming the status quo.

    Oath Keepers turned tail and ran at the first threat from the kops in St. Louis back in the Michael Brown days.

    They are useless.....

    or designed to be useless and ensnare the gullible.



    Bingo,


    Is it possible that the Oath Keepers, the most prominent antigovernment group in the United States, has been run, in effect, by the United States government itself — and nobody has mentioned it until now?



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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Oath Keepers leader and 10 others charged with 'seditious conspiracy' related to US Capitol attack

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/13/polit...doj/index.html
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Oath Keepers leader and 10 others charged with 'seditious conspiracy' related to US Capitol attack

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/13/polit...doj/index.html
    Quote Originally Posted by tod evans View Post
    Oathkeepers charged with sedition

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Oath Keepers leader and 10 others charged with 'seditious conspiracy' related to US Capitol attack

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/13/polit...doj/index.html
    Rhodes convicted

    Right-wing Oath Keepers founder convicted of sedition in U.S. Capitol attack plot
    Stewart Rhodes, founder of the right-wing Oath Keepers militia group, was convicted by a jury on Tuesday of seditious conspiracy for last year's attack on the U.S. Capitol in a failed bid to overturn then-President Donald Trump's 2020 election loss - an important victory for the Justice Department.

    Rhodes, a Yale Law School-educated former Army paratrooper and disbarred attorney, was accused by prosecutors during an eight-week trial of fomenting a plot to use force to block Congress from certifying President Joe Biden's election victory over Trump.

    He was the best-known of the five defendants in the most significant of the numerous trials arising from the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot. One co-defendant, Kelly Meggs, was also found guilty of seditious conspiracy on Tuesday, while three others - Kenneth Harrelson, Jessica Watkins and Thomas Caldwell - were acquitted of that charge.

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    Stewart Rhodes helped out a direct family member in need of legal counsel, pro bono and right away.

    He is rock solid as far as I'm concerned, and now he is off to political prison, probably for the rest of his life.

    And all "we" do to support him is to suggest he's a rat.

    Proud to have chipped in to his defense fees, even if a worthless gesture and which probably makes me a thought criminal as well.
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    I don't support Trump. I don't think Trump won. I used to defend the oath keepers as a good organization before they got mixed up with Trump.

    Want to know where they $#@!ed up? They didn't go far enough. If you are staging a coup you need to capture or kill the enemy to reach your goal. You don't just walk in take a few selfies in Nancy's office and leave. The winners write history. Rhodes just found that out the hard way. Too bad, he did a lot of good things before getting caught up in the Trump madness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I don't support Trump. I don't think Trump won. I used to defend the oath keepers as a good organization before they got mixed up with Trump.

    Want to know where they $#@!ed up? They didn't go far enough. If you are staging a coup you need to capture or kill the enemy to reach your goal. You don't just walk in take a few selfies in Nancy's office and leave. The winners write history. Rhodes just found that out the hard way. Too bad, he did a lot of good things before getting caught up in the Trump madness.
    What if you're not staging a coup? (I refuse to parrot the mainstream narrative, I'll leave that to you).
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    This is getting silly.
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    It started silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    What if you're not staging a coup? (I refuse to parrot the mainstream narrative, I'll leave that to you).
    Call it what you will, it really doesn't matter. If you take an action like that you need to follow through to completion. Because history has long shown that the victors write it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Stewart Rhodes helped out a direct family member in need of legal counsel, pro bono and right away.

    He is rock solid as far as I'm concerned, and now he is off to political prison, probably for the rest of his life.

    And all "we" do to support him is to suggest he's a rat.
    Which is exactly what the Feds want us to do. The Feds can't be everywhere all of the time, but I'm sure they $#@!ing love that we think they can.

    Not everyone is a fed.

    Every time that someone is called a Fed - that isn't - we are doing the Feds' job for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Call it what you will, it really doesn't matter. If you take an action like that you need to follow through to completion. Because history has long shown that the victors write it.
    If Jan 6 was done in response to any other President's loss, I don't think the punishments would have been nearly as harsh.

    The massive over-reaction to Jan 6 is entirely explainable by TDS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    The massive over-reaction to Jan 6 is entirely explainable by TDS.
    If that stands for Teenager Debauchery by the State, then yes, it is.
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    And?
    Dems cheat.
    Trump stopped them cheating.

    A clear case of Liberty preserving authoritarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If Jan 6 was done in response to any other President's loss, I don't think the punishments would have been nearly as harsh.

    The massive over-reaction to Jan 6 is entirely explainable by TDS.
    I agree some of them were too harsh. If it was just your average stupid Trumpkin who went into the capital and looked around, a few days in jail and a fine should have sufficed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    I don't support Trump.
    Your prerogative.

    I'm neutral on him, neither a detractor nor sycophant. He did some good, failed significantly at other things.

    I don't think Trump won.
    Then you are not using your brain properly. The simple fact that so much hanky panky was uncovered should at least have you on the fence. Trump probably won by a landslide, but at this point we may never know the truth. But to unequivocally imply he lost is first-order foolery. There was very little that was clean about the 2020 elections, just as has been the case in 2022.

    Theye are waggling their balls on the end of your tongue and you're not moving it.

    I used to defend the oath keepers as a good organization before they got mixed up with Trump.
    Your apparent tone here would seem to paint yourself as a Trump hater. More foolishness. I disagree with many things Trump did, but I do not hate him. The broad issue is many-faceted. Consider that with which he had to work - a "government" mangled grotesquely with the embedded corruptions of well over a century. What would YOU have done in that seat? Give the man credit where due, and excoriate appropriately. This blind hatred is pointless as it accomplishes little good, IMO.

    Want to know where they $#@!ed up? They didn't go far enough.
    So you're guzzling Theire kool-aid?

    If you are staging a coup you need to capture or kill the enemy to reach your goal.
    That may be true, but your assumption that it was an attempted coup is absurd on its face. How could you even make such a statement without feeling like you've eaten an entire bottle of imbecile pills? Seriously now, you cannot be serious.

    Not a single participant was armed, certainly not with guns. The media would have hung on to that fact like grim death and we'd still be hearing about it every night until our eyes began to bleed. So you would have the world believe that a small group of people were lunatic enough to think they could stage a successful coup against potentially a few thousands of elected officials, appointees, and police, sans armament save perhaps their peckers, and succeed? You would have to quite clinically mad to believe such a thing. Even stupid people are not that stupid, for they would have had to have lost the ability to breathe on their own long before reaching such a depth of dumbassness.

    You don't just walk in take a few selfies in Nancy's office and leave.
    And that, hint hint, is why it wasn't a coup. Hello?

    The winners write history. Rhodes just found that out the hard way. Too bad, he did a lot of good things before getting caught up in the Trump madness.
    I'd say the only madness I see here is yours. Maybe I'm wrong.
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    Rhodes is my favorite Ivy League lawyer (Yale) insurrectionist



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