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    Post Ex-MN cop Derek Chauvin sentenced to 22.5 years in prison for George Floyd murder

    Historically significant precedent has been set with this verdict:

    Ex-Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin sentenced to 22.5 years in prison for George Floyd murder

    Published Fri, Jun 25 2021 Updated 2 Hours Ago

    Dan Mangan
    Key Points

    • A judge sentenced former Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin on Friday to 22-and-a-half years in prison for the murder of George Floyd.
    • That was less than the 40-year maximum for the killing of Floyd, a Black man, whose videotaped death with Chauvin kneeling on his neck on May 25, 2020, sparked demands for reform of U.S. police departments.
    • Three of Chauvin’s fellow ex-police officers are awaiting trial on related Minnesota state criminal charges next March.


    A judge sentenced former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin on Friday to 22-and-a-half years in prison for the murder of George Floyd.
    That sentence was less than the 40-year maximum for the killing of Floyd, a Black man whose videotaped death with the white cop Chauvin kneeling on or near his neck for more than nine minutes on May 25, 2020, sparked massive protests nationwide and demands for reform of U.S. police departments.
    But it was a decade more than the presumptive sentence for second-degree murder, the most serious of the three counts for which Chauvin, 45, was convicted at trial in April.
    Jurors also convicted him of third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. Prosecutors wanted Chauvin to serve 30 years in prison, while the former cop’s lawyer asked for just probation.
    Hennepin County Judge Peter Cahill gave the 18-year- police veteran Chauvin the stiffer punishment than recommended by sentencing guidelines after finding four aggravating factors in his crimes.
    Those were Chauvin having abused a position of trust and authority as a cop, having treated Floyd with “particular cruelty,” committing the crime with a group of at least three other people — his fellow police officers — and the fact that children were present during the commission of the offense.
    “The sentence is not based on is emotion or sympathy,” said Cahill, who later added that he did not based the sentence on public opinion, or “to send any messages.”
    “But at the same time I want to acknowledge the deep and tremendous pain that all the families are feeling, especially the Floyd family, the judge said. You have our sympathies.”
    Cahill said the case also “has been painful throughout Hennepin County, throughout the state of Minnesota, and even the country.”
    cnbc.com/2021/06/25/derek-chauvin-sentencing-for-murder-of-george-floyd.html

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    Get a crack head ****** all up in your crotch....

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    Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd's killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...ys/ar-AA1kuuUM

    24 Nov 2023

    Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd, was stabbed by another inmate and seriously injured Friday at a federal prison in Arizona, a person familiar with the matter told The Associated Press.

    The attack happened at the Federal Correctional Institution, Tucson, a medium-security prison that has been plagued by security lapses and staffing shortages. The person was not authorized to publicly discuss details of the attack and spoke to the AP on the condition of anonymity.

    The Bureau of Prisons confirmed that an incarcerated person was assaulted at FCI Tucson at around 12:30 p.m. local time Friday. In a statement, the agency said responding employees contained the incident and performed “life-saving measures” before the inmate, who it did not name, was taken to a hospital for further treatment and evaluation.

    No employees were injured and the FBI was notified, the Bureau of Prisons said. Visiting at the facility, which has about 380 inmates, has been suspended.

    Messages seeking comment were left with Chauvin’s lawyers and the FBI.

    Chauvin’s stabbing is the second high-profile attack on a federal prisoner in the last five months. In July, disgraced sports doctor Larry Nassar was stabbed by a fellow inmate at a federal penitentiary in Florida.

    It is also the second major incident at the Tucson federal prison in a little over a year. In November 2022, an inmate at the facility’s low-security prison camp pulled out a gun and attempted to shoot a visitor in the head. The weapon, which the inmate shouldn’t have had, misfired and no one was hurt.
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    Oh no
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Oh no
    Oh no, what?
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    Why is he still in prison since it was proven that he didn't kill Mr. Floyd?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Why is he still in prison since it was proven that he didn't kill Mr. Floyd?
    SCOTUS refused to hear his appeal, so he is yet another political prisoner.

    The system will not entertain any appeal or chance of release because they know the blacks and Marxist whites will go bug$#@! insane and burn half the country down, if he were to have his conviction overturned and set free.

    That's why they have him in unprotected "general population".

    If this attempt doesn't kill him, the next one will.

    Snip...no more loose end.
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    No sympathy for Chauvin, except standard sympathy for anyone in the prison system.

    The system of violence is allowed and encouraged by the State to augment the punishment agenda.

    Whether he actually killed St. George Floyd is of little relevance to me when you think about what Chauvin did to throw people in the very place that he finds himself.

    I wouldn't rule out a crass attempt on Chauvin's part to gain sympathy going into his media/appeal campaign.
    Last edited by sparebulb; 11-25-2023 at 11:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Why is he still in prison since it was proven that he didn't kill Mr. Floyd?
    He isn't still in prison.

    It would look the same from here if he was dead or in the witness protection program. But he's not in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Why is he still in prison since it was proven that he didn't kill Mr. Floyd?
    It turns out that twitter isn't a court of law.
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    The Fall of Minneapolis
    New Film Debunks Establishment Narrative About George Floyd and the Riots

    https://www.thefallofminneapolis.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Why is he still in prison since it was proven that he didn't kill Mr. Floyd?
    Because if he was released the left is going to go absolutely insane and riot all over the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It turns out that twitter isn't a court of law.
    WTF are you babbling about?

    He's in prison because "the court of public opinion" put him there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Why is he still in prison since it was proven that he didn't kill Mr. Floyd?
    How did he not kill Floyd? I thought Floyd met the same end as Tony Timpa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    WTF are you babbling about?

    He's in prison because "the court of public opinion" put him there.
    I can say that he's in prison because the gingerbread man mafia put him there, but saying so doesn't make it true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A. Havnes View Post
    How did he not kill Floyd? I thought Floyd met the same end as Tony Timpa.
    It's parsing a fine line.

    Apparently, the coroner's report, which I understand was not allowed to be presented as evidence at the trial, if I'm wrong on that somebody please correct me, shows that he did not die of asphyxiation or injury to throat or larynx, but rather from an overdose of fentanyl and methamphetamines.

    Did getting roughed by the cops and made to eat pavement by the cops trigger the heart failure from drugs that killed him?

    Probably.

    But is that murder?

    And I hate being put in this position, defending the cops that roughed him up...I found myself in same spot 30 years ago with the Rodney King cops.

    I'm not in favor of show trials for anybody.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    ............

    And I hate being put in this position, defending the cops that roughed him up...I found myself in same spot 30 years ago with the Rodney King cops.

    I'm not in favor of show trials for anybody.
    No, I'm not either.

    The kops have a duty to protect those that they take into their custody......although just wait for that to be upended by some clown court.

    All Chauvin had to do was to place the gentle giant on the ground and keep a hand on him to make sure that he wouldn't spring to his feet and do the Jesse Owens and escape.

    But Chauvin grinned at the crowd and kept kneeling on his neck to show the Blue Team's occupation dominance over the rabble.

    Optics go a long way....long enough to land him in prison.

    Personally, I hope he dies in prison with his tongue pulled out of his slit throat.

    Kops aren't very smart, but they claim that the death sentence exists because it will deter crime.

    This is basically the only deterrence that exists now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    This is basically the only deterrence that exists now.
    Anarcho-tyranny wasn't our idea. And it makes genuine anarchy look better every day.

    And guillotines.

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    Caveats:

    People who get arrested don't like being arrested.

    and

    The following article comes from NPR.

    That being said, this article covers Chauvin's record as a kop.

    Spoiler: Choking and kneeling is his thing.

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/0...e-george-floyd

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    No, I'm not either.

    The kops have a duty to protect those that they take into their custody......although just wait for that to be upended by some clown court.

    All Chauvin had to do was to place the gentle giant on the ground and keep a hand on him to make sure that he wouldn't spring to his feet and do the Jesse Owens and escape.

    But Chauvin grinned at the crowd and kept kneeling on his neck to show the Blue Team's occupation dominance over the rabble.

    Optics go a long way....long enough to land him in prison.

    Personally, I hope he dies in prison with his tongue pulled out of his slit throat.

    Kops aren't very smart, but they claim that the death sentence exists because it will deter crime.

    This is basically the only deterrence that exists now.
    Considering that it will be cops going house to house to confiscate guns or arrest you for hate crimes because you beat up the trans queeer weirdosexual that you caught molesting your 8 year old son, in the not too distant future, yeah, my milk of human kindness and sense of fair play dries up as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Apparently, the coroner's report, which I understand was not allowed to be presented as evidence at the trial, if I'm wrong on that somebody please correct me
    It was presented as evidence and the coroner himself was called as a witness to testify.


    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    shows that he did not die of asphyxiation or injury to throat or larynx, but rather from an overdose of fentanyl and methamphetamines.
    The report is public. It's been public since before the trial. A two word Google search will present it to you as the top result.

    The report lists the cause of death as cardiopulmonary arrest. Nowhere in the report does it say what caused the cardiopulmonary arrest.
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    Chauvin's sentence is a miscarriage of justice. The big slob ODed.

    Officers were charged on May 29, 2020 based on an autopsy report which stated Floyd died from “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression.” This was BEFORE the medical examiner received the toxicology screening of Floyds blood taken when he arrived at the hospital. The examiner did not receive this report until May 31, 2020 - two days later.

    On the evening of May 31st, Dr. Andrew Baker (Hennepin County’s Chief Medical Examiner) had a discussion with prosecutors about Floyd’s toxicology report.

    On June 1st, Amy Sweasy (Assistant County Attorney) [recently in the news again] wrote a memorandum of that discussion which - for unexplained reasons - was not release by prosecutors till August 25, 2020 - three months later. The following is noted:

    The level of amphetamine in Floyd’s system was 19 ng/ML ...“a stimulant hard on the heart”.

    The level of Fentanyl was listed as 11 ...“a fatal level under normal circumstances”
    “Floyd’s lungs were 2-3x their normal weight at autopsy”
    Fentanyl causes pulmonary edema.

    “Hospital blood” (blood taken on arrival at the hospital - before death) gives more accurate toxicology results than blood taken at an autopsy, because autopsy blood undergoes “post-mortem distribution” (meaning it settles).

    Dr Andrew Baker said that “had Floyd been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contribution factors he would conclude that it was an overdose death.”

    —-------------------------------------------------—
    YES, this was all known by the summer of 2020 as you can see at the following link from August 26, 2020, which I had posted in a different thread back then: https://spectator.org/minnesota-v-de...-little-secret
    You can read the memorandum yourself at the above link. You used to be able to download the PDF at this link https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/henn...psy-6-3-20.pdf but it appears to have been removed. Perhaps this because of Amy Sweasy’s lawsuit against former County Attorney Mike Freeman? More about that below:

    Docs Reveal ‘Extreme’ Public Pressure on Prosecutors in George Floyd Case
    Posted on October 19, 2023

    ...New court documents expose the “extreme pressure” prosecutors faced in Hennepin County to charge Derek Chauvin and three other former Minneapolis police officers in the death of George Floyd....

    ...Several attorneys opposed charging the “other three” officers and withdrew from the case due to “professional and ethical rules...

    Now, hundreds of pages of sworn testimony of Hennepin County attorneys and other county employees that took place this summer have been made public....

    “There was extreme premium pressure, yes. The city was burning down,” Lofton said.

    He explained that while he “wanted the case charged” and believed there was “probable cause to charge Mr. Chauvin with third degree murder,” the pressure from outside the office was “insane” and he had reservations about charging “the other three cops.”...

    https://www.amren.com/news/2023/10/c...rge-floyd-case
    Last edited by Valli6; 11-27-2023 at 12:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparebulb View Post
    No, I'm not either.

    The kops have a duty to protect those that they take into their custody......although just wait for that to be upended by some clown court.

    All Chauvin had to do was to place the gentle giant on the ground and keep a hand on him to make sure that he wouldn't spring to his feet and do the Jesse Owens and escape.

    But Chauvin grinned at the crowd and kept kneeling on his neck to show the Blue Team's occupation dominance over the rabble.

    Optics go a long way....long enough to land him in prison.

    Personally, I hope he dies in prison with his tongue pulled out of his slit throat.

    Kops aren't very smart, but they claim that the death sentence exists because it will deter crime.

    This is basically the only deterrence that exists now.
    My problem is that, regardless of the verdict, Chauvin did not have a fair trial, which means that we shouldn't expect fair trials as well. It was the equivalent of throwing a man into a volcano to appease the gods. Greg Gutfeld's reaction on Fox News highlighted this point.

    "I'm glad that he was found guilty on all charges, even if he might not be guilty of all charges. I am glad that he is guilty of all charges because I want a verdict that keeps this country from going up in flames."
    This is unacceptable, regardless of whether Chauvin may have deserved this fate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It was presented as evidence and the coroner himself was called as a witness to testify.




    The report is public. It's been public since before the trial. A two word Google search will present it to you as the top result.

    The report lists the cause of death as cardiopulmonary arrest. Nowhere in the report does it say what caused the cardiopulmonary arrest.
    So, he didn't die from asphyxiation.

    Was kinda of my point.

    But thanks for the clarification.
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    no asphyxia, no strangulation, no injuries to Floyd's neck found

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    So, he didn't die from asphyxiation.
    No, he didn't. There were no injuries to his neck at all.
    During her deposition, Sweasy also discussed a revealing conversation she said she had the day after Floyd’s death when she asked Hennepin County Medical Examiner Dr. Andrew Baker about the autopsy.

    “I called Dr. Baker early that morning to tell him about the case and to ask him if he would perform the autopsy on Mr. Floyd,” she explained.

    “He called me later in the day on that Tuesday and he told me that there were no medical findings that showed any injury to the vital structures of Mr. Floyd’s neck. There were no medical indications of asphyxia or strangulation,” Sweasy said, according to the transcript.

    “He said to me, ‘Amy, what happens when the actual evidence doesn’t match up with the public narrative that everyone’s already decided on?’ And then he said, ‘This is the kind of case that ends careers.’”...

    https://alphanews.org/court-docs-rev...rge-floyd-case

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    The Fall of Minneapolis



    The Fall of Minneapolis

    The film is based on Liz Collin’s Amazon bestseller, “They’re Lying: The Media, The Left, and The Death of George Floyd,” which exposes the holes in the prevailing narrative surrounding George Floyd’s death, the trial of Derek Chauvin, and the fallout the city of Minneapolis has suffered ever since.

    The documentary features more than a dozen interviews with the people directly involved, including exclusive interviews with former officers Derek Chauvin and Alexander Kueng who spoke to Liz Collin from prison. The families of Chauvin and Kueng also speak out publicly for the first time.

    The film also features current and former Minneapolis police officers who tell their harrowing stories from the riots, recount the planned surrender of the Third Precinct, and explain why so many of them left the job.

    The crowdfunded movie was produced by Alpha News journalist Liz Collin and directed by Dr. J.C. Chaix. Cinematography by Josh Feland.

    https://rumble.com/v3x4mjd-the-fall-of-minneapolis.html
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    Old news, but apparently the body cam footage shows that St. George of Floyd was swallowing an unknown tablet when the police were trying to pull him from the vehicle...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    My problem is that, regardless of the verdict, Chauvin did not have a fair trial, which means that we shouldn't expect fair trials as well. It was the equivalent of throwing a man into a volcano to appease the gods. Greg Gutfeld's reaction on Fox News highlighted this point.

    "I'm glad that he was found guilty on all charges, even if he might not be guilty of all charges. I am glad that he is guilty of all charges because I want a verdict that keeps this country from going up in flames."
    This is unacceptable, regardless of whether Chauvin may have deserved this fate.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valli6 View Post
    No, he didn't. There were no injuries to his neck at all.
    In addition to not being strangled, George Floyd was also not killed by a poorly worded wish on a monkey's paw.
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