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    Exclamation Biden: You need F-15 and nukes to take on the government

    Tell that to the 10,000 or so Afghan resistance fighters that have kept us at bay for over 20 years now, on Minsks with AK-47s and home made rocket launchers.


    Biden To Americans Who Own Guns To Defend Against Tyranny: You Need Jets, Nuclear Weapons To Take Us On

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden...-to-take-us-on

    By Daily Wire News

    Jun 23, 2021 DailyWire.com

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    President Joe Biden said during a press conference about soaring crime rates on Wednesday that Americans who buy firearms to defend against a tyrannical government would need to own “F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons” to go up against the government.

    “The Second Amendment from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own,” Biden said. “You couldn’t buy a cannon. [Those who] say the blood of the, the blood of patriots, you know, and all this stuff about how we’re going to have to move against the government.”

    “Well, the tree of liberty is not [watered with] the blood of patriots, what’s happened is that there never been, if you want, if you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons,” Biden continued. “The point is that there’s always been the ability to limit, rationally limit, the type of weapon that can be owned, and who can own it.”



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    Wait a minute...then how could a bunch of protesters, not single one has been charged with any sort of weapons violations, be an immediate and existential threat to the very foundation of government on Jan 6?
    Last edited by Anti Federalist; 06-23-2021 at 07:45 PM.
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    Jefferson's words make him choke, like a demon reading a bible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Tell that to the 10,000 or so Afghan resistance fighters that have kept us at bay for over 20 years now, on Minsks with AK-47s and home made rocket launchers.


    Biden To Americans Who Own Guns To Defend Against Tyranny: You Need Jets, Nuclear Weapons To Take Us On

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden...-to-take-us-on

    By Daily Wire News

    Jun 23, 2021 DailyWire.com

    MANDEL NGAN / AFP via Getty Images

    President Joe Biden said during a press conference about soaring crime rates on Wednesday that Americans who buy firearms to defend against a tyrannical government would need to own “F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons” to go up against the government.

    “The Second Amendment from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own,” Biden said. “You couldn’t buy a cannon. [Those who] say the blood of the, the blood of patriots, you know, and all this stuff about how we’re going to have to move against the government.”

    “Well, the tree of liberty is not [watered with] the blood of patriots, what’s happened is that there never been, if you want, if you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons,” Biden continued. “The point is that there’s always been the ability to limit, rationally limit, the type of weapon that can be owned, and who can own it.”



    https://twitter.com/i/status/1407808797029113857
    Biden's example of "rational limit" was that independence newly won state citizens weren't allowed to own cannons. Tell that to the privateers of the day.

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    Good Lord. The guy cannot even read from a script. If it were an uncle or parent with dementia I'd say "Well, he's doing really well." But, as POTUS this is just insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Biden's example of "rational limit" was that independence newly won state citizens weren't allowed to own cannons. Tell that to the privateers of the day.
    Does this $#@! not know that as of today, right now, you can own a cannon if you want to and have the money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Does this $#@! not know that as of today, right now, you can own a cannon if you want to and have the money?
    I don't believe the $#@! even knows what today is. Or right now. Or yesterday. Or 30 yrs. ago. Or..............

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    Even England allowed people to own cannons..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wait a minute...then how could a bunch of protesters, not single one has been charged with any sort of weapons violations, be an immediate and existential threat to the very foundation of government on Jan 6?
    Reported.

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Does this $#@! not know that as of today, right now, you can own a cannon if you want to and have the money?
    Does he have any idea what a nerd redneck can build in a garage or barn?

    "no concept" comes to mind.

    And half who have "known" me,, have no concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wait a minute...then how could a bunch of protesters, not single one has been charged with any sort of weapons violations, be an immediate and existential threat to the very foundation of government on Jan 6?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Tell that to the 10,000 or so Afghan resistance fighters that have kept us at bay for over 20 years now, on Minsks with AK-47s and home made rocket launchers.
    Just like Vietnam, we could have easily won that war. The American public couldn't stomach the civilian casulaties that it would have taken to win. So it was another limited engagement, win hearts and minds fiasco.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Wait a minute...then how could a bunch of protesters, not single one has been charged with any sort of weapons violations, be an immediate and existential threat to the very foundation of government on Jan 6?
    If they had been armed, they could have taken out all of congress and the senate. But if they were amrned, they wouldn't have been allowed to walk in would they?

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    And I wonder where he thinks the revolutionary wat army got it's cannons from?

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    'You'll Never Beat The Government With Just Guns,' Says Party That Also Believes Government Was Almost Toppled By Unarmed Mob On January 6

    https://babylonbee.com/news/youll-ne...b-on-january-6

    Headline Says It All
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And I wonder where he thinks the revolutionary wat army got it's cannons from?
    Doesn't count, the revolutionary soldiers were criminals with illegally procured weapons
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Just like Vietnam, we could have easily won that war. The American public couldn't stomach the civilian casulaties that it would have taken to win. So it was another limited engagement, win hearts and minds fiasco.
    What would have made killing all those civilians "winning"?

    Was winning just killing the most people? Or accomplishing some other goal that would, by the nature of the goal being pursued, keep the population as intact as possible?
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    Incoherent Joe Biden Warns Americans the Government Has F-15’s and Nukes

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...15s-and-nukes/

    John Nolte 24 Jun 2021

    “If … you think you need weapons to take on the government, you need F-15’s and maybe some nuclear weapons,” His Fraudulency Joe Biden warned his fellow citizens Wednesday.

    That nonsense was part of a bigger point Slow Joe was looking to make about how there have always been restrictions on the Second Amendment, even on day one — you know, all the way back in the 1700s.

    “The second amendment from the day it was passed limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own,” His Fraudulency opined, adding this sizzling whopper, “You couldn’t buy a cannon.”

    Then Joe’s old age caught up to him with this word salad of incoherence:

    Those who say the blood of liberty, the, uh, blood of patriots, you know, and all this stuff about how we’re going to have to move against the government. Well, the tree of liberty is not watered with the blood of patriots. What’s happened is that there never been– if you wanna– think you need weapons to take on the government, you need F-15’s and maybe some nuclear weapons. The point is there’s always been the ability to limit– rationally limit the type of weapon that can be owned and who can own it.

    That’s pretty big talk from a government that hasn’t won a war since 1946, that couldn’t defeat farmers with AK-47s in Afghanistan over 20 years.

    Here’s the full 39 second commercial for the NRA clip:

    BIDEN: "Those who say the blood of Patriots, you know, and all the stuff about how we’re gonna have to move against the government.”

    "If you think you need to have weapons to take on the government, you need F-15s and maybe some nuclear weapons."pic.twitter.com/WVHUffpphP

    — Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 23, 2021

    Yikes.

    Anyway, even the far-left propagandists at PolitiFact were forced to admit Biden lied about “Cannon Control.”

    “Historians say they are doubtful that there were laws to bar individual ownership of cannons during the Revolutionary War period,” writes PolitiFact before hitting His Decrepitude with a “False” rating.

    But is anyone else out there more than a little freaked out that we have a sitting president in obvious cognitive decline who’s threatening American citizens with nukes and is apparently so paranoid, he sees gun owners as a group that wants to “move against the government?”

    Other than the left-wing terrorists in Antifa and Black Lives Matter, who’s talking about moving against the government?

    The idea behind the Second Amendment is not to “move against the government” but to protect yourself against an overreaching government. The Second Amendment is about self-defense. The Founding Fathers understood how important it was for the government to know the citizenry could defend itself against tyranny.

    No one — again, other than the Democrat party’s allies in Black Lives Matter and Antifa — is looking to launch an armed assault on the White House.

    What I found most troubling, even more troubling than Biden’s worsening cognitive state, is that instead of him taking the approach that no one has anything to fear from their government, he’s looking to intimidate us with a not-so-veiled threat about F-15s and nuclear weapons.

    Maybe I missed it, but we’ve never had a president before who basically said to his fellow Americans, Bring it on, but you better have nukes and F-15s!

    What kind of crazy, paranoid talk is that? And from a president who hardly knows who he is.

    That clip above, Biden’s 39 seconds of lies, paranoia, demonization, and threats, is the best argument for purchasing firearms and ammo I’ve ever seen.
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    Can't wait till the meme-makers get ahold of this... and last I checked, all you need is a III-percenter shoulder patch and a MAGA hat while touring the Capitol-building in order to topple the entire apparatus of government... aka "insurrection"... very delicate, fragile business, this "government" thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Then Joe’s old age caught up to him with this word salad of incoherence:

    Those who say the blood of liberty, the, uh, blood of patriots, you know, and all this stuff about how we’re going to have to move against the government. Well, the tree of liberty is not watered with the blood of patriots. What’s happened is that there never been– if you wanna– think you need weapons to take on the government, you need F-15’s and maybe some nuclear weapons. The point is there’s always been the ability to limit– rationally limit the type of weapon that can be owned and who can own it.
    Joe can get away with nonsense like that because most Americans don't even know where that quote came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Does he have any idea what a nerd redneck can build in a garage or barn?

    "no concept" comes to mind.

    And half who have "known" me,, have no concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    Can't wait till the meme-makers get ahold of this...
    I doubt any still hang around here, since Stormfront trolls libeling Rand Paul has become a thing the administration ignores. But if some still do, here's a kit:

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    Maybe I missed it, but we’ve never had a president before who basically said to his fellow Americans, Bring it on, but you better have nukes and F-15s!
    You didn't miss it. Up until now, at a minimum, the fiction was scrupulously maintained that this is a representative democracy and the voters had ultimate authority and power. The fact that this myth is out the window is unprecedented in this nation. This may seem like just the blathering of a senile pedophile, but it is a major turning point.

    No, no president has ever talked that way to the American people. Ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post

    No, no president has ever talked that way to the American people. Ever.
    I am still wondering how many heard it..

    It did sound threat like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    What would have made killing all those civilians "winning"?

    Was winning just killing the most people? Or accomplishing some other goal that would, by the nature of the goal being pursued, keep the population as intact as possible?
    The stated goal of the Veitnam war was to stop the spread of communism. The stated goal of the Afghan wan was to to stop the Taliban from harboring terrorists. Both of those goals could have been accomplished with indiscriminate killing of civilians like in WW2. Therefore the wars could have been won.

    Don't confuse the fact that these wars were technically winnable with my personal opinion. I don't think the US should have gone into Vietnam at all. I think the Afghan war should have been limited, perhaps to airstrikes to punish the Taliban and over in less than a year.



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  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    I doubt any still hang around here, since Stormfront trolls libeling Rand Paul has become a thing the administration ignores. But if some still do, here's a kit:

    WHAT YOU NEED TO TAKE ON THE GOVERNMENT OF A DEMOCRACY



    WHAT THE HEAD "DEMOCRAT" SAYS YOU NEED TO TAKE ON THE GOVERNMENT OF THE U.S.





    ANY QUESTIONS?



    You didn't miss it. Up until now, at a minimum, the fiction was scrupulously maintained that this is a representative democracy and the voters had ultimate authority and power. The fact that this myth is out the window is unprecedented in this nation. This may seem like just the blathering of a senile pedophile, but it is a major turning point.

    No, no president has ever talked that way to the American people. Ever.
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  31. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I am still wondering how many heard it..

    It did sound threat like.
    I've heard it.

    Been hearing it, loud and clear.

    Sadly, too many people say, when I try to warn them how dangerous this rhetoric is, they claim I'm paranoid, or racist, or both.
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  32. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I've heard it.

    Been hearing it, loud and clear.

    Sadly, too many people say, when I try to warn them how dangerous this rhetoric is, they claim I'm paranoid, or racist, or both.
    I'm not really concerned about what rhetoric fake-President Biden chooses to use.

    What's more concerning to me, is that there is a bottom-up movement in this country to overthrow the status quo in favor of racial marxism. His rhetoric just echoes what a large portion of the country already believe.

    There are a few people on this forum that hold the view that it's the "elites" and/or "media" who are trying to steer the country in this direction.

    Not so.

    Leftism is a grassroots movement that is happening at a large scale. It started with the schools/universities. They spread their filth to the tech companies. Then the media. It's infecting now the military.

    It's a generational disease that is 30+ years in the making.

    And there is likely no cure.

    Except death.

    Whose death, is yet to be foretold.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 06-24-2021 at 12:45 PM.
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  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    The stated goal of the Veitnam war was to stop the spread of communism.
    I doubt that killing more civilians would have accomplished that.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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  34. #30
    I don't see any reason why private citizens shouldn't be allowed to have fully-armed F-15's.

    And if nukes are too dangerous for an individual to have, then a government sure as $#@! shouldn't be allowed to have it.
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