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Thread: Guys, do NOT use fake names.

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    Guys, do NOT use fake names.

    The FEC could get very, very angry. Use your real names; fake names could make Paul look bad.



    Quote Originally Posted by Thanehand View Post
    DON'T DO IT.

    * The media WILL twist this into yet another negative issue.

    * The fake names are being put into the "contact information" fields, which means that you contact info may be excluded from the campaign database, making it look like there are less supporters (see the news coverage on Obama getting 20,000 names from Oprah fronted rallys).

    * It will cause extra work for the campaign office as they now have to sift through, verify and remove false information like this. Time is money and this extra work means that MONEY YOU JUST DONATED IS BEING WASTED.

    You would think this is common sense. :/ Blah.
    Quote Originally Posted by dc74rp View Post
    Not only is making campaign contributions under a false name not allowed, but the campaign cannot knowingly accept such contributions.

    The Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) directly prohibits any person from making political contributions in the name of another. Title 2 U.S.C. § 441f.

    http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...11cfr110.4.htm

    From the FEC website:

    http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/c..._Contributions

    Contributions in the Name of Another

    Contributions made by one person in the name of another are prohibited. No person may knowingly permit the use of his or her name to effect such a contribution. It is also prohibited to knowingly assist someone in making or to accept a contribution in the name of another. It is also unlawful to knowingly permit the use of one's name to effect a contribution in the name of another or to help someone make or accept such a contribution. 11 CFR 110.4(b).
    Edit: The name on the credit card is not good enough, as a credit card may be in a nickname. My real first name isn't on my credit card. The campaign is reqired to provide your first and last name.

    It creates problems for the campaign. They will end up being subtracted from our total today. This is what they have to go through when recieving prohibited contributions:

    http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/c..._Contributions
    Handling Illegal Contributions

    The treasurer of a committee is responsible for ensuring that all contributions are lawful. 11 CFR 103.3(b). If the treasurer has reason to suspect that a contribution is excessive or prohibited, he or she must, within 10 days of receiving the contribution, either return the contribution to the donor or deposit the contribution. 11 CFR 103.3(a). If the contribution is deposited, the treasurer must:

    Maintain sufficient funds in the account to refund the contribution should it prove to be illegal or place the contribution in a separate account for this purpose;

    Keep written records noting the basis for the appearance of illegality;
    Note that the legality of the contribution is in question when reporting the receipt of the contribution; and

    Comply with appropriate deadlines (see sections below).
    11 CFR 103.3(b)(4) and (5).
    Last edited by rory096; 12-16-2007 at 02:20 PM.



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    Just saw a "Rudy Giuliani" donating from NJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory096 View Post
    The FEC could get very, very angry. Use your real names; fake names could make Paul look bad.
    no one is using a fake name
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    Quote Originally Posted by aspiringconstitutionalist View Post
    Just saw a "Rudy Giuliani" donating from NJ.
    Me too.

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    yea, i just saw a donation from someone named "I AM SUPER AWESOME"



    real names > i am super awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory096 View Post
    The FEC could get very, very angry. Use your real names; fake names could make Paul look bad.
    Seriously. Getting all those donations voided is not a good thing.
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    We are making fun of them, to me that's a revolutionary act.

    But oh well, guess you're right.

    edit. I mean if people use names like Hillary that's cool in my books.

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    Yeah, shouldn't this be common sense? I don't know why people are doing this.



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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyenick View Post
    no one is using a fake name
    Ah, so there really are multiple Rudy Giulianis and at least one Hillary Clinton donating?

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    Are you saying it would be a bad idea to go ahead with my plan of donating as Osama bin Laden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawkeyenick View Post
    no one is using a fake name
    Someone named Hillary Clinton from New York, New York donated to the campaign. Something tells me it was a fake name.

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    I would avoid using fake names, but as I start to think about it, it seems like it shouldn't be a problem unless you give your real name on your credit card info... I mean, how many people use nicknames that bear no resemblance to their actual first names and how many people accidentally make typos in their names? Does the FCC get on the case of all those people?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrich4rpaul View Post
    Seriously. Getting all those donations voided is not a good thing.
    Indeed.

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    I would guess they are making 1 dollar donations and doing that stuff. Possibly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by aspiringconstitutionalist View Post
    I would avoid using fake names, but as I start to think about it, it seems like it shouldn't be a problem unless you give your real name on your credit card info... I mean, how many people use nicknames that bear no resemblance to their actual first names and how many people accidentally make typos in their names? Does the FCC get on the case of all those people?
    No, but we don't want to invite them to do so.

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    Next thing we know these people are part of an identity theft and RP supporters are the culprit. RP supporters stole the identification of rudy hillary huck mitt. I would be roaring if they claimed this as a plan.



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    Official records are correct

    You have to enter official info for the credit or debit card....not the same as the display name
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Are you saying it would be a bad idea to go ahead with my plan of donating as Osama bin Laden?
    God dammit, Noam! Just use your real name.
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    God dammit, Noam! Just use your real name.
    ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Ben Bernanke,

    Thank you very much for your donation of $300.00 to the Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign.

    Your donation will allow us to expand and grow our campaign.

    We depend on donors like you to help us spread the message of freedom, peace and prosperity through Ron Paul’s candidacy.

    Thanks for being a part of the campaign!
    No more Mr. Bad guy

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    Using fake names lowers the credibility of the money bomb. People are going to be skeptical with this crap. It needs to end.

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    You have to enter official info for the credit or debit card....not the same as the display name
    Exactly, have you people not donated before...sheesh, calm down!

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    Actually, I think that as long as you use your real name on the credit/debit card info side of the donation screen, it really shouldn't matter what you put in as your display name for the widget (which pulls from the left side of the donation screen). Besides, ya gotta admit that seeing Hillary Clinton go by really was pretty funny ;-)
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    Damn I was gonna donate as God and show that Huckabee who's boss. I suppose I shall just use a human name.
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    The people doing that obviously stupid thing are hurting Ron Paul. For at least some of them, that might be the intent. It's trolling on a different level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    Are you saying it would be a bad idea to go ahead with my plan of donating as Osama bin Laden?
    actually osama is waiting for his last cia cheque to clear ... it pays for his funeral expenses and juniors [ bush ] money bomb to run and hide in south america

    blimp the banks

    { frankly he's dead }
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    if it doesn't match your BILLING INFORMATION

    it won't count

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    evil ppl can donate really small sums a bunch of times to get their names on there.
    No more Mr. Bad guy

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    its entirely possible non-RP backers are donating with false credit information to hurt the overall money bomb

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