Passengers on first fully vaccinated North American cruise test positive for COVID

[Danke]

https://breaking911.com/2-passengers...ive-for-covid/



“Today two guests sharing a stateroom onboard Celebrity Millennium tested positive for COVID-19 while conducting the required end of cruise testing. The individuals are asymptomatic and currently in isolation and being monitored by our medical team. We are conducting contact tracing, expediting testing for all close contacts and closely monitoring the situation.
Celebrity Millennium is sailing with fully vaccinated crew and guests and following comprehensive protocols that align with our destination partners and exceed CDC guidelines to protect the health and safety of our guests. All guests on Celebrity Millennium were required to show proof of vaccination as well as a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours before sailing from St. Maarten this past Saturday. This situation demonstrates that our rigorous health and safety protocols work to protect our crew, guests and the communities we visit.”

[donnay]

I am not at all shocked by this. Wait until fall when flu season kicks in. Time for people to beef up their immune system before fall.

[Invisible Man]

I'm confused.

So this cruise line, in addition to requiring that all passengers be vaccinated *and* show proof of testing negative for COVID-19 within 72 hours before boarding, *also* tests these same passengers for COVID later on during the cruise, even if they're totally asymptomatic? And then these passengers who paid for this cruise, and who have no symptoms, and who already showed that they tested negative for COVID, and are vaccinated, have to be isolated on their cruise just because somebody gave them another test that got a positive result, which proves nothing, even though everyone around them on the cruise is also already vaccinated?

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

...is also already vaccinated?

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ANTI-SCIENCE

[Danke]

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE ANTI-SCIENCE

And racist

[pcosmar]

"safe?"
and Effective.

???

well it does have effects.

[BortSimpson]

Afaik, the vax doesn't purport to prevent Covid, just to lessen the symptoms. So a bunch of vaxxed people getting Covid I think still falls in line with "the science". But, if we go by what we're officially being told, I guess it shows how futile all of this stuff is. These people tested negative 72 hours prior to the cruise and they were all "fully vaxxed" yet still came down with it. Where did it come from? The boat itself? Or is this stuff mostly (or all) just theater? And yes, I think it mostly (or possibly all) is. It's disheartening how many people completely believe what they're being told though.

[pcosmar]

how many people completely believe what they're being told though.

Too many.

and two people I witnessed, got truly sick after the shots.

[BortSimpson]

Too many.

and two people I witnessed, got truly sick after the shots.

None of the negative effects of the shots seem to dissuade anyone I know though. I hear stuff like "well, it's better than covid" and "it means the shot is working".

And when people die, I've seen the family say "we're not anti-vax" (I think the death of Marvin Hagler is one such example).

[dannno]

I'm confused.

So this cruise line, in addition to requiring that all passengers be vaccinated *and* show proof of testing negative for COVID-19 within 72 hours before boarding, *also* tests these same passengers for COVID later on during the cruise, even if they're totally asymptomatic? And then these passengers who paid for this cruise, and who have no symptoms, and who already showed that they tested negative for COVID, and are vaccinated, have to be isolated on their cruise just because somebody gave them another test that got a positive result, which proves nothing, even though everyone around them on the cruise is also already vaccinated?

It's possible they got it during an excursion? Were they doing excursions? Normally they do.

[Invisible Man]

These people tested negative 72 hours prior to the cruise and they were all "fully vaxxed" yet still came down with it.

But there really is no proof that they came down with it. They were not sick. All they did was get tested and have the test come back positive.

According to the CDC, the available COVID vaccines are effective in preventing you from getting COVID. You can take that for what it's worth. But it's at least safe to say that what the CDC claims is representative of what the vaccines are purported to do.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ctiveness.html

[pcosmar]

None of the negative effects of the shots seem to dissuade anyone I know though. I hear stuff like "well, it's better than covid" and "it means the shot is working".

And when people die, I've seen the family say "we're not anti-vax" (I think the death of Marvin Hagler is one such example).

Stockholm Syndrome.

[Danke]

Afaik, the vax doesn't purport to prevent Covid, just to lessen the symptoms. So a bunch of vaxxed people getting Covid I think still falls in line with "the science". But, if we go by what we're officially being told, I guess it shows how futile all of this stuff is. These people tested negative 72 hours prior to the cruise and they were all "fully vaxxed" yet still came down with it. Where did it come from? The boat itself? Or is this stuff mostly (or all) just theater? And yes, I think it mostly (or possibly all) is. It's disheartening how many people completely believe what they're being told though.

well, maybe not directly from Pharma companies, but the press seems to think so.

Scientists from the Cleveland Clinic, USA, have recently evaluated the effectiveness of coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19) vaccination among individuals with or without a history of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection.

Scientists from the Cleveland Clinic, USA, have recently evaluated the effectiveness of coronavirus disease 2019 COVID-19) vaccination among individuals with or without a history of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection.

[Danke]

Weird , I can’t edit that post.

[Danke]

The analysis of cumulative COVID-19 incidence revealed that during the course of the study, SARS-CoV-2 infection occurred almost exclusively in participants who were not previously infected and were not vaccinated.
Interestingly, no significant difference in COVID-19 incidence was observed between previously infected and currently unvaccinated participants, previously infected and currently vaccinated participants, and previously uninfected and currently vaccinated participants.

The participants from these three groups exhibited a significantly lower incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection compared to previously uninfected and currently unvaccinated participants.

With further statistical analysis, it was observed that the COVID-19 vaccination significantly reduced the risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection in previously uninfected participants but not in previously infected participants.

[Brian4Liberty]

Afaik, the vax doesn't purport to prevent Covid, just to lessen the symptoms. So a bunch of vaxxed people getting Covid I think still falls in line with "the science". But, if we go by what we're officially being told, I guess it shows how futile all of this stuff is. These people tested negative 72 hours prior to the cruise and they were all "fully vaxxed" yet still came down with it. Where did it come from? The boat itself? Or is this stuff mostly (or all) just theater? And yes, I think it mostly (or possibly all) is. It's disheartening how many people completely believe what they're being told though.

But there really is no proof that they came down with it. They were not sick. All they did was get tested and have the test come back positive.

According to the CDC, the available COVID vaccines are effective in preventing you from getting COVID. You can take that for what it's worth. But it's at least safe to say that what the CDC claims is representative of what the vaccines are purported to do.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ctiveness.html

Yeah, the most relevant question here is what a PCR nasal swab test actually indicates. Was the test accurate? Absent any other symptoms, is it really a “case”? Are they contagious?

[AngryCanadian]

"safe?"
and Effective.

???

well it does have effects.

Reminds me of a old commercial.

[pcosmar]

Reminds me of a old commercial.

reminds me of a very bad dream.

[Invisible Man]

It's possible they got it during an excursion? Were they doing excursions? Normally they do.

Sure it's possible. But that shouldn't matter. All they have is a positive result in a test. They didn't even get sick.

[pcosmar]

Sure it's possible. But that shouldn't matter. All they have is a positive result in a test. They didn't even get sick.

That would also be true of most people that had the PCR test.

[dannno]

But there really is no proof that they came down with it. They were not sick. All they did was get tested and have the test come back positive.

According to the CDC, the available COVID vaccines are effective in preventing you from getting COVID. You can take that for what it's worth. But it's at least safe to say that what the CDC claims is representative of what the vaccines are purported to do.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ctiveness.html

It is interesting that two people from the same cabin tested positive, but that doesn't completely absolve the tests, unless they were tested at separate times. But if they went in at the same time, that could still possibly indicate bad tests. Or maybe they were both in contact with somebody who was recently vaccinated.

[jmdrake]

I am not at all shocked by this. Wait until fall when flu season kicks in. Time for people to beef up their immune system before fall.

Then they'll say everyone who gets sick really has the flu. There is a need to pretend that COVID been whupped under Biden.

[pcosmar]

Then they'll say everyone who gets sick really has the flu. There is a need to pretend that COVID been whupped under Biden.

Delta Variant.. and so forth

the solution.

/sark