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Thread: CPI jumps 5% in May of 2021, fastest since 2008

  1. #781
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    That take is why the Fed was so slow to deal with inflation and why they've now overtightened. The headline number is for the trailing 12 months so inflation won't look as bad when it flares up and will look worse even after it is beaten.

    M2 has had it biggest percentage decline ever. From page 232-233 of my copy of Money Mischief by Milton Friedman

    4. It takes time (measured in years, not months) for inflation to develop; it takes time for inflation to be cured

    5. Unpleasant side effects of the cure are unavoidable. The United State has embarked on raising its monetary growth five times between 1960 and 1990. Each time the higher monetary growth has followed first by economic expansion and later by inflation. Each time the authorities have slowed monetary growth to stem inflation. Lower monetary growth has been followed by a recession.
    The Fed has done its job. But they went too far and historically you get a recession out of this. The 3 month and 10 year yield curve inverted October of 2022. The average lead time for recession is 18 months which would put a recession first qtr of 2024, but it can be multiple years as was the case in 2008. Worrying about inflation right now doesn't mean there will be less inflation long term. It probably does mean there will be an even bigger recession and more government stimulus and more Fed easing instead. I think we will look back on this and wish the Fed stopped tightening last year.



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  3. #782
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    I think we will look back on this and wish the Fed stopped tightening last year.
    But of course we will. America didn't need a middle class anyway.

    The only thing I can't figure out is what the Fed was allegedly tightening? Certainly not Zelinsky's belt. Not their own, either.

  4. #783
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    The Fed has done its job.
    Or course it has. When has it ever not?


  5. #784
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Or course it has. When has it ever not?


    I know that is some sort of snarky response. I honestly don't know what you are getting at. Could you tell me? Are you saying they should continue to tighten so we get an even more severe downturn?



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  7. #785
    Quote Originally Posted by Krugminator2 View Post
    I know that is some sort of snarky response. I honestly don't know what you are getting at. Could you tell me? Are you saying they should continue to tighten so we get an even more severe downturn?
    Why ask me? They're the "experts".

    They should just do whatever they think best.

    Otherwise, what is even the point of them?

  8. #786
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Why ask me? They're the "experts".

    They should just do whatever they think best.
    But are they the experts? The yield curve is the best predictor of recession. Their own website using market signals and not their "expert" opinions says this is the highest probability of recession since 1981, yet they are talking about their base case is no recession. https://www.newyorkfed.org/medialibr...s/Prob_Rec.pdf

    Otherwise, what is even the point of them?
    I would say no point. I have seen no evidence that human judgment is a better predictor than markets. I would say they shouldn't exist. There should be a rules based system whether it is a gold standard or Taylor Rule or Friedman rule or nominal GDP targeting.
    Last edited by Krugminator2; 09-14-2023 at 12:01 PM.

  9. #787
    if the fed hasnt proven how useless they are now they never will
    Do something Danke

  10. #788
    Rising Gas Prices Driving Inflation Higher


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...lation-higher/
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    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

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    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

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    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

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  11. #789
    August Retail Sales Strengthen As Gasoline Prices Soar


    https://www.thefinancialtrends.com/2...e-prices-soar/
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #790
    Credit card losses at highest level since last great financial crises , moving near 4 percent , up 1 1/2 percent from 2021. Expected to rise another percent in next 1 1/2 years
    Do something Danke

  13. #791
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    https://twitter.com/profstonge/statu...66299530035595



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  16. #793
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/profstonge/statu...66299530035595
    https://twitter.com/JoeConsorti/stat...08934551371840

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