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    Dan Abrams - ‘All Signs Point to a Likely Indictment’ in NYC Trump Probe

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021...c-trump-probe/

    Pam Key 1 Jun 2021

    ABC chief legal analyst and Mediaite founder Dan Abrams said Tuesday on “The View” that “all signs point to a likely indictment” in the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into former President Donald Trump’s organization.

    Co-host Sara Haines said, “Let’s talk about the ongoing investigation into the Trump organization. The Manhattan DA has convened a special grand jury to decide whether to bring criminal charges against former President Trump, executives at his company, or the company itself. Now President Trump has denied any wrongdoing and calls it a political witch-hunt. No former U.S. president has ever been charged with a crime. So I want to ask you, will he be the first, and who should be the most worried?”

    Abrams said, “All signs point to a likely indictment. Why do I say that? First, you’ve got the fight over former President Trump’s tax returns. Then you’ve got the hiring of a very high-profile prosecutor who is brought in to basically oversee this case. He leaves a very cushy job to come in and work at the DA office on this case, and this is his expertise. Now you have the special grand jury that’s been empaneled. You don’t typically get a grand jury like this unless they believe they have evidence of a crime. So all the evidence, all the signals are towards a likely indictment of someone, if not more than one person.”

    He added, “This Manhattan DA, in particular, can investigate whatever potential crime comes across his desk, and here we’re not talking about Donald Trump as president with the protections that the president has. We’re talking about what Donald Trump, as a private citizen, did with regard to real estate deals and possible bank fraud, et cetera. So in this sense, he’s being treated just like everybody else, which makes this a very different kind of investigation.”
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    What specific crime are they charging him with or are they investigating to see if a crime was committed for them to investigate?
    ...

  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    What specific crime are they charging him with or are they investigating to see if a crime was committed for them to investigate?
    Fishing expedition...they're finding the crime like Bereia.

    I'll bet good money they nail him on a USC 18 Sec. 1001 process crime: making false statements to government "officials".
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    What specific crime are they charging him with or are they investigating to see if a crime was committed for them to investigate?
    He probably refused to pay off some public official...

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    The only alleged crime I've heard so far, is not a crime at all.

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    Democrats just can't leave the guy alone. They need to stop wasting their time with this nonsense.
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    I mean, haven't you always wanted to see the perp walk of a president?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I mean, haven't you always wanted to see the perp walk of a president?
    Are the walls still closing in?
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    He's probably guilty of something. Most politicians and shady businessmen commit multiple crimes on a daily basis. They are just actually going to enforce the laws for political gain.

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    If Trump reversed himself on vaccines to prove he wasn't Deep State he'd have mobs busting him out of jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Are the walls still closing in?
    Actually, I'm moving to a larger apartment!
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    Three felonies a day. Ham sandwich.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Three felonies a day. Ham sandwich.
    And there you have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I mean, haven't you always wanted to see the perp walk of a president?
    So what crime do you think he has committed other than the standard that all off them committed, including your man, Obama?
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    He's probably guilty of something. Most politicians and shady businessmen commit multiple crimes on a daily basis. They are just actually going to enforce the laws for political gain.
    With that mindset, you can be found guilty of anything if they dig deep enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    With that mindset, you can be found guilty of anything if they dig deep enough.
    As above, 3 felonies a day



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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    He's probably guilty of something. Most politicians and shady businessmen commit multiple crimes on a daily basis. They are just actually going to enforce the laws for political gain.
    Everybody, including you, commit three crimes a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    So what crime do you think he has committed other than the standard that all off them committed, including your man, Obama?
    I'm not picky.
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    Wait, I thought he's being reinstated as President in August...
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    he’s being treated just like everybody else, which makes this a very different kind of investigation
    What?
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wait, I thought he's being reinstated as President in August...
    Trust the plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I'm not picky.
    So in other words, you know of no crime, but Rachel Maddow has told you that she will announce the smoking gun tonight on TV for the 100th time since 2016?
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wait, I thought he's being reinstated as President in August...
    Only if you donate today!
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RJB View Post
    So in other words, you know of no crime, but Rachel Maddow has told you that she will announce the smoking gun tonight on TV for the 100th time since 2016?
    Maddow? No, she's M+, not M, which is where the information on Trump's crimes actually comes from.

    M is a former military intelligence operative working with the forces of good to defeat demons living openly among us. These demons are indistinguishable from normal humans except through their unnatural skin tones, which they cover up by using makeup, bronzer, or excessive amounts of spray tan.

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    It's all there for anyone to read. Do your own research.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Maddow? No, she's M+, not M, which is where the information on Trump's crimes actually comes from.

    M is a former military intelligence operative working with the forces of good to defeat demons living openly among us. These demons are indistinguishable from normal humans except through their unnatural skin tones, which they cover up by using makeup, bronzer, or excessive amounts of spray tan.

    M distributes operations updates on the progress of the ongoing guerrilla war against evil on Tumblr.

    It's all there for anyone to read. Do your own research.
    Touché, lol.
    ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    He's probably guilty of something. Most politicians and shady businessmen commit multiple crimes on a daily basis. They are just actually going to enforce the laws for political gain.
    This is certainly NOT the first thread started on Donald Trump being indicted for "something".
    I often find it hard to figure out what he is accused of...

    It could be the following that I've posted about before.
    It is buried deep in a very long New York Times article.

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    The article shows that Donald Trump was able to lower his taxes for 18 years by deducting his more than $900 million in losses in 1990, when he went bankrupt.

    Following the U.S. stock market crash of 1987, a global recession hit New York real estate. New construction stalled, and several big developers declared bankruptcy.
    As the real estate market slumped, Trump ran out of cash.
    At the beginning of 1990 he owed a combined $4 billion to more than 70 banks, with $800 million personally guaranteed by his own assets, according to Alan Pomerantz, a lawyer whose team led negotiations between Trump and 72 banks to restructure Trump’s loans. Pomerantz was hired by Citibank but became lead counsel for the negotiations.
    https://archive.is/8npXW


    With many people these days unable to read anything longer than a Twitter message, this article seems to argue that Donald Trump really is a great businessman, by using the laws to lower his taxes to almost 0. In 10 of the previous 15 years, “billionaire” Trump paid no (0) income taxes, and in 2016 and 2017 Trump paid only a combined $1500).

    In 2010, Donald claimed and received an income tax refund totalling $72.9 million (the federal income tax he had paid for 2005 to 2008). That was with the help of legislation entered by President Obama.
    Then from 2011 to 2014, “billionaire” Donald paid no federal taxes at all (0).

    Where it gets “criminal” behaviour by the Donald is that he never paid those losses back to his handlers/lenders, so he shouldn’t be allowed to deduct it.

    Here’s how the NYT one time in the whole long article explains that Donald really is in trouble with the IRS.
    If the I.R.S. learns that the owner received anything of value, the allowable losses are reduced to just $3,000 a year. And Mr. Trump does appear to have received something. When the casino bankruptcy concluded, he got 5 percent of the stock in the new company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Everybody, including you, commit three crimes a day.
    I probably commit more than that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Dan Abrams - ‘All Signs Point to a Likely Indictment’ in NYC Trump Probe

    Pam Key 1 Jun 2021

    ABC chief legal analyst and Mediaite founder Dan Abrams said Tuesday on “The View” that “all signs point to a likely indictment” in the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation into former President Donald Trump’s organization.
    ...
    These are disruptive times but I'm still tad bit skeptical.

    That said, pretty stunning how things are shaping up, would have not even entertained the idea few months ago that Biden Dems would end up being more alpha and better at 3D Chess than MAGA 'Lock Her Up' revolution team.


    'ALL HAT, NO CATTLE'



    If Dems succeeded in painting Biden as a silent "Doer" and Trump as a noisy "Tweeter", won't be good for political future of GOP-MAGA wing.


    All this could be part of a bigger scheme from 'follow the money' dynamics angle, humiliating take down of both world leaders that neoconservative king-maker Sheldon Adelson had funded appears to be occurring simultaneously.

    https://miro.medium.com/max/1832/1*T...9VSH2uqp3Q.png

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    What?
    A false statement from the article . He is not being treated like anyone else because if he was they wouldnt be trying to charge him for a bank loaning him money is how I take it .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    These are disruptive times but I'm still tad bit skeptical.

    That said, pretty stunning how things are shaping up, would have not even entertained the idea few months ago that Biden Dems would end up being more alpha and better at 3D Chess than MAGA 'Lock Her Up' revolution team.


    'ALL HAT, NO CATTLE'



    If Dems succeeded in painting Biden as a silent "Doer" and Trump as a noisy "Tweeter", won't be good for political future of GOP-MAGA wing.


    All this could be part of a bigger scheme from 'follow the money' dynamics angle, humiliating take down of both world leaders that neoconservative king-maker Sheldon Adelson had funded appears to be occurring simultaneously.

    https://miro.medium.com/max/1832/1*T...9VSH2uqp3Q.png
    Well put.

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    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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