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    Risks COVID vaccines larger than benefits

    For some reason the following analysis of the risk-benefit of the experimental COVID vaccines was deleted, but was reposted on UKcolumn.org.

    Both immunocompetent and vulnerable groups are better protected against variants of SARS-CoV-2 by naturally acquired immunity and by medication than by vaccination.1
    Efficacy: Covid-19 vaccines lack a viable mechanism of action against SARS-CoV-2 infection of the airways. Induction of antibodies cannot prevent infection by an agent such as SARS-CoV-2 that invades through the respiratory tract.
    (...)

    The risk-benefit calculus is therefore clear: the experimental vaccines are needless, ineffective and dangerous. Actors authorising, coercing or administering experimental COVID-19 vaccination are exposing populations and patients to serious, unnecessary, and unjustified medical risks.
    (...)

    Since vaccine roll-out, COVID-19 incidence has risen in numerous areas with high vaccination rates [36–38]. Furthermore, multiple series of COVID-19 fatalities have occurred shortly after the onset vaccinations in senior homes [39,40].
    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/ban...-of-covid-jabs
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    I am surprised that most outlets have completely avoided any discussions on vitamins when the Chinese doctors used heavy dose of vit c into the patients during the start at the crisis at least according to a live stream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngryCanadian View Post
    I am surprised that most outlets have completely avoided any discussions on vitamins when the Chinese doctors used heavy dose of vit c into the patients during the start at the crisis at least according to a live stream.
    How could you be "surprised"?
    They don't want people healthy, but depending on big pharma, and government "stimulus" cash...

    If people eat healthy, they boost their immune system, COVID is no danger, so nobody needs the depopulation vaccines, and the scamdemic is finished!
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    Recently the "reputable" Lancet reported that even when we believe the high efficacy rates for the COVID vaccines (as high as 95%), this doesn't mean that they are worth the risk.
    The number needed to vaccinate (NNV) to prevent a single case of COVID-19 is (at least): 76 for the Moderna–NIH vaccine, 78 for AstraZeneca–Oxford, 80 for Gamaleya, 84 for J&J, and 117 for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine.
    Data from the Pfizer vaccine in Israel suggests an NNV of even 217!

    The 117 for the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine means that 117 people have to be jabbed (many with side effects) to prevent a single case of COVID-19.
    While a reasonable estimate of the average death rate of COVID-19 is about 0.1%...

    That's not even counting that the “reduction” in COVID cases is not a decrease in hospitalisations and death, but a reduction in the number of positive PCR cases, most without (or with only mild) corona symptoms: https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/01/...ing-framework/
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    According to the Norwegian Health Authorities, the risk of dying from the AstraZeneca COVID vaccine (Vaxzevria) outweigh the risk of COVID-19 for Norwegian people under 65.
    They stopped injecting people with Vaxzevria (but continuing injecting Norwegians with other COVID vaccine biochemical weapons): https://archive.is/7fRMP
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    The title of the following May 2021 is surprising in that it's coming from the reputable MIT, "Worse Than the Disease? Reviewing Some Possible Unintended Consequences of the mRNA Vaccines Against COVID-19" (42 pages long).

    The Moderna vaccine demonstrated an absolute risk reduction of a mere 1.1%, while the Pfizer vaccine absolute risk reduction is only 0.7%.

    A 2018 publication concluded that "unprecedented" vaccines, like the emergency approved COVID vaccines, are expected to take 12.5 years to develop and have only a 2% probability of getting approved after a proper medical study (including Phase III).

    Many aspects of the COVID-19 vaccine development are unprecedented, including "6. First vaccine to make no clear claims about reducing infections, transmissibility, or deaths".

    The authors make some suggestions to monitor the effects of the vaccines, including:
    •Studies comparing populations who were vaccinated with the mRNA vaccines and those who were not to confirm the expected decreased infection rate and milder symptoms of the vaccinated group, while at the same time comparing the rates of various autoimmune diseases and prion diseases in the same two populations.
    .
    With the conclusion (courtesy of MIT).

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    When big pharma uses statistrics to prove the wonderful benefits of the not-properly tested COVID vaccines, this is called "science". But when anti-vaxxers do a similar statistical analysis of the available data, this is called "misinformation", and the information gets censored...
    Now I'm NOT saying that the following scientific-looking article is of excellent quality, but as this is mainly caused by lack of good publicly available information on the health of vaccinated people compared to people who remain unvaccinated, it's the best they could do.
    It is dubious to compare the NNTV from one source (a large Israeli field study), to the adverse reactions from another source (the Dutch National Register Lareb.nl).


    Here's a fact checking, debunking exercise about a controversial peer-reviewed article that was published on 24 June in Vaccines and retracted on 2 July 2021 that "showed that the COVID-19 vaccine causes two deaths for every three lives it saves": https://www.politifact.com/factcheck...-claiming-cov/


    Best of all I found the full, uncensored paper, see some excerpts...
    We calculated the number needed to vaccinate (NNTV) from a large Israeli field study to prevent one death. We accessed the Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR) database of the European Medicines Agency and of the Dutch National Register (lareb.nl) to extract the number of cases reporting severe side effects and the number of cases with fatal side effects.

    Result: The NNTV is between 200–700 to prevent one case of COVID-19 for the mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer, while the NNTV to prevent one death is between 9000 and 50,000 (95% confidence interval), with 16,000 as a point estimate. The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.

    Conclusions: This lack of clear benefit should cause governments to rethink their vaccination policy.
    (...)

    The risk–benefit ratio looks better if we accept the stronger effect sizes from the phase 3 trials. Using Cunningham’s estimate of NNTV = 12,300, which stems from a non-peer reviewed comment, we arrived at eight deaths prevented per 100,000 vaccinations and, in the best case, 33 deaths prevented by 100,000 vaccinations. Thus, in the optimum case, we risk four deaths to prevent 33 deaths, a risk–benefit ratio of 1:8. The risk–benefit ratio in terms of deaths prevented and deaths incurred thus ranges from 2:3 to 1:8, although real-life data also support ratios as high as 2:1, i.e., twice as high a risk of death from the vaccination compared to COVID-19, within the 95% confidence limit.
    .
    Walach et al. - The Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations — We Should Rethink the Policy (2021): https://thefatemperor.com/wp-content...the-Policy.pdf
    (https://web.archive.org/web/20210707...the-Policy.pdf)
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    This will probably be blamed on anti-vaxxer misinformation, used as an argument to censor the internet even more!
    A poll of 1,715 U.S. not COVID vaccinated adult Americans, shows that more of them think that the vaccines are a greater health risk than even the amazing COVID-19 virus (37% compared to 29%).

    They were also asked why they think that the experimental COVID vaccines are too risky:
    - Long-term side effects - 37%;
    - I don’t trust the government - 17%;
    - The vaccines are too new - 16%;
    - The FDA hasn’t fully approved the vaccines yet -11%;
    - I don’t trust any vaccines - 6%.

    When they were allowed to select multiple reasons for why they think the vaccines are a health risk, many of these unvaccinated Americans selected all of the above options (I guess I would too): https://archive.is/yxyFX
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    A study of only only 257 cases (of these only 25 girls) of hospitalisation from myocarditis (heart problems) caused by the COVID vaccines in children aged 12-17 in VAERS (that underestimate the true amount of adverse reactions), found that the risks from the COVID vaccines for boys (for this adverse reaction alone) are much higher than from COVID.

    The risk of heart complications from the COVID vaccines in this study is:
    162.2 per million for boys 12-15 years.
    94.0 per million for boys 16-17 years.
    13.4 per million for girls 16-17 years.
    13.0 per million for girls 12-15 years.

    The risk of a healthy boy needing hospital treatment because of COVID-19 in the next 120 days is 26.7 per million.
    This means that for boys aged 12 to 17 the risk from the COVID vaccines for heart complications alone is much higher than from COVID. For boys aged boys 12 to 15 the rate of hospitalisation from serious heart complications from the vaccines is 3.7 to 6.1 times higher than from COVID.

    Tracy Beth Høeg et al. - SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination-Associated Myocarditis in Children Ages 12-17: A Stratified National Database Analysis (30 August 2021): https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...866v1.full.pdf
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    Now isn't that surprising?!? Since the campaign to poison teenagers with the heart attack causing COVID vaccines, deaths among teenage boys have risen by 63% in the UK according to official ONS data.

    Between 1 May 2020 and 18 September 2020, before COVID vaccines, a total of 219 15–19-year-olds died - 142 teenage boys, and 77 girls.
    Between 30 April 2021 and 17 September 2021, after COVID vaccines were introduced, a total of 320 teens over 15 died - 231 teenage boys, and 89 girls.


    This means that from 30 April to 17 September 2021, after COVID vaccination of teens was started, the number of teen deaths were 46% higher than the same period in 2020.
    The deaths among teenage boys have increased by 63%, whereas deaths among teenage girls have "only" increased by 16%: https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/04/teen...covid-vaccine/
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    The following article shows once and for all how dangerous it is to have these experimental mRNA vaccines approved without a proper medical trial.

    The official explanation on how these mRNA vaccines work is that they inject mRNA into the bloodstream that orders the blood cells to create a SARS-CoV-2 protein, which magically "teaches" the immune system to fight COVID-19.
    Because these mRNA vaccines are completely new technology that were approved without proper medical trial we know next to nothing of its long-term adverse effects.

    Injecting synthetic mRNA for medical purposes has been tried and failed over and over again for a variety of disorders for more than 15 years.
    This failed over and over again because mRNA backfired causing the immune system of lab animals attacking the cells that were producing something alien to the body (an autoimmune disorder).

    So then they had the great idea to make mRNA vaccines, speculating that injecting only a small amount of mRNA would cause less harm...
    So Moderna that was founded in 2010 suddenly became a vaccine manufacturer!

    Besides the mRNA technology also the polyethylene glycol (PEG) coating has never been used before in an approved vaccine.
    PEG has been used in several drugs that have triggered anaphylaxis — that can cause rashes, plummeting blood pressure, shortness of breath, and rapid heartbeat. Severe allergy-like reactions that have occurred after being poisoned with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine shouldn't be surprising: https://archive.is/RoBcJ
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    The high COVID-vaccinated Israel has experienced skyrocketing COVID cases and deaths, while the number of COVID cases and deaths in low COVID-vaccinated Palestine remained low.

    The result of the great Israel COVID vaccination "Success story? Israel’s coronavirus stats are worse than all its neighbors".
    Israel’s leaders have lauded the country’s coronavirus figures: 16,667 cases, and 279 deaths as of Thursday morning. This translates to 1,929 cases per million and 32 deaths per million.
    (...)

    But in Egypt and Jordan, immediate neighbors of Israel, figures are lower. They recorded 139 cases per million and 66 cases per million, respectively, and their death rates are seven per million and 0.9 per million, respectively. The Palestinians, with their 398 cases and two deaths, stand at 78 cases per million and 0.4 deaths per million.
    Syria and Lebanon, also immediate neighbors, have reported three cases per million 141 cases per million, respectively, and morbidity rates of 0.2 deaths per million and four per million, respectively.
    https://www.timesofisrael.com/succes...its-neighbors/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    Now isn't that surprising?!? Since the campaign to poison teenagers with the heart attack causing COVID vaccines, deaths among teenage boys have risen by 63% in the UK according to official ONS data.
    A scientific-looking report has been published that confirms that the high amount of myocarditis cases and deaths reported to VAERS is caused by the deadly COVID vaccines...

    Within 8 weeks of starting COVID-19 vaxxing innocent 12-15-year-olds there were "19 times the expected number of myocarditis cases in the vaccination volunteers over background myocarditis rates for this age group”.
    See the graph with the rising number of myocarditis cases after they started COVID vaxxing teens in 2021.



    Of the total myocarditis cases, 6 people died, of which 2 teenagers.

    The myocarditis case rates for 2021 are much higher than the previous 3 years.

    https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/06/repo...f-the-iceberg/
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    Some countries with very high COVID vaccination rates, experience more COVID cases than countries with low vaccination rates.



    See for example Bhutan, where the extraordinary rapid vaccination rate got 64% of the population COVID vaxxed in less than a week.
    You can see that this was followed by a quick rise in the number of COVID cases (whatever that means), to more than 400 cases per million.


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    Finland joins Sweden and Denmark in limiting Moderna COVID-19 vaccine

    HELSINKI, Oct 7 (Reuters) - Finland on Thursday paused the use of Moderna's (MRNA.O) COVID-19 vaccine for younger males due to reports of a rare cardiovascular side effect, joining Sweden and Denmark in limiting its use.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...en-2021-10-07/
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  21. #18
    Del Bigtree has been doing some very interesting reporting on vaccines lately. The video that I am posting below is on Rumble in it he show scientist at the WHO discussing vaccine safety it is very eye opening . IMO its a must watch It is 2 hours long so many of you may have to set aside the time to watch

    https://rumble.com/embed/vku2f1/?pub=9ljw9

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    In Iceland a whopping 90% of people between the ages of 40-70 and 98% older than 70 are "fully vaccinated" against COVID.

    Epidemiologist Þórólfur Guðnason announced that because the COVID vaccines do not work the lockdown will continue: https://freewestmedia.com/2021/07/28...s-do-not-work/
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    The VigiAccess database of the WHO contains 2,201,851 adverse reactions to the deadly COVID-19 vaccines.
    This includes 108,468 cardiac disorders.

    The COVID-19 vaccines on average have more adverse effects on females, with 69% of the adverse reactions: https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/07/shoc...rth-disorders/
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    Since the experimental COVID vaccines were warp speed emergency approved, in December of 2020, more than 50% deaths were reported in the US from the COVID-19 shots alone than deaths from ALL vaccines in the entire 31 years since VAERS was started in 1990.

    From December 2020 to 2 July 2021 - 9,048 deaths from COVID-19 vaccines.
    From 1990 to November 2020 - 6,145 deaths following all vaccines
    recorded in VAERS.

    Since then the number of deaths from the COVID vaccines has continued to rise: https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/cd...n-baby-deaths/
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  25. #22
    According to an analysis by Jessica Rose over 150,000 people have died in the U.S. alone after the COVID-19 jab.



    Steve Kirsch (Executive Director of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund) argues that the massive drop in over 90 years old in Israel can only be explained by a massive amount of vaccinated dying...
    The real numbers confirm that we kill more than we save. And I would love to look at the Israel ministry of health data on the 90+ year olds where we went from a 94.4% vaccinated group to 82.9% vaccinated in the last 4 months.
    In the most optimistic scenario it means that 50% of the vaccinated people died and 0% of unvaccinated people died. Unless you can explain that to the public you cannot approve the boosters
    https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/st...d-19-vaccines/


    The following 8 minute video features Joseph Fraiman, Steve Kirsch, and Dr. Jessica Rose.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/KwlZU198oGpT/
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  26. #23
    What's the benefit? Would you get a hepatitis shot that didn't stop you from getting hepatitis?
    How do you even measure the efficacy of "reducing symptoms"? Sounds about as credible as "Best pancakes in the world"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warrior_of_Freedom View Post
    How do you even measure the efficacy of "reducing symptoms"?
    The supposed 2 month "medical trials" measured a "positive" PCR tests (that is scientifically meaningless) after symptoms. They excluded "positive" cases within 14 days of vaccination as "vaccinated" cases, but possibly DID count these as "unvaccinated cases" (that is at least what they did in some trials and now in real life numbers).

    Then when they got some numbers to claim a 95% efficacy, they immediately stopped the placebo control group.
    Now they are admitting that the efficacy isn't anywhere near 95% (at least not after only 6 months of the last jab), so we need boosters. But even though there is no evidence, the COVID jabs still prevent severe disease...

    While people with the IQ of a goldfish are repeating after each other, "trust the science" and don't listen to those horrible anti-vaxxers.
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    The following isn't some rant from an antivaxxer, but the educated opinion of an expert (inventor) on mRNA technology, Robert Malone, who goes on to explain that these type of vaccines should have never been approved without proper long-term medical trials (that usually include animal trials for at least 3 years), especially as they're completely new technology that has never been used in vaccines before.
    He points out that the "biologically active" spike protein being spread throughout the body is especially troubling, and "very dangerous"...




    A couple of days after Robert Malone explained that the experimental mRNA vaccines shouldn't have been emergency approved without proper medical trials, Wikipedia (between 14 and 16 June) removed his name as inventor of mRNA vaccines.

    According to the "independent" Wikipedia, until 14 June, Robert Malone had played a major role in inventing mRNA vaccines.
    In 1989, Robert W. Malone, P. Felgner, et. al. developed a high-efficiency in-vitro and in-vivo RNA transfection system using cationic liposomes, which were used "to directly introduce RNA into whole tissues and embryos", as well as various cells types. The term and idea of "RNA as a drug" is first described in this paper. [15] Then, in 1990, Jon A. Wolff, Robert W Malone, et. al. demonstrated the idea of nucleic acid-encoded drugs by direct injecting in vitro transcribed (IVT) mRNA or plasmid DNA (pDNA) into the skeletal muscle of mice which expressed the encoded protein in the injected muscle. These studies were the first evidence that in vitro transcribed (IVT) mRNA could deliver the genetic information to produce proteins within living cell tissue. [16][17]

    The first mRNA vaccine experiments were carried out by P. Felgner, J. Wolff, G. Rhodes, R.W. Malone and D. Carson. P. They completed a number of mRNA vaccination studies that resulted in nine patents on mRNA vaccination with a shared priority date of March 21, 1989. One experiment documented that NEF (an HIV protein) mRNA vaccination in mice, followed by HIV challenge reduced positively stained cells by 2-fold and p24 expression was reduced by 50% at eight weeks. [18][19][20]
    https://web.archive.org/web/20210614...ki/RNA_vaccine

    Then on 16 June, suddenly Malone's name is completely missing from the Wikipedia text: https://web.archive.org/web/20210616...ki/RNA_vaccine
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  30. #26
    While worldwide daily COVID cases have been falling 24% from 19 August and 15 September, these COVID cases fell more in low vaccinated countries than in high vaccinated countries.
    This once again confirms that COVID vaccines cause more harm than they prevent.
    .
    See for example the following drop in COVID cases in 4 low vaccinated third world countries.
    COUNTRY VACCINATED AT 18/9 CHANGE IN CASES 19/8 – 15/9
    SOUTH AFRICA 19% -65%
    NIGERIA 2% -55%
    KENYA 4.4% -64%
    BANGLADESH 13% -71%
    http://freenations.net/most-vaccinat...ch-censorship/
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  31. #27
    If I understand correctly the Pfizer third COVID booster shot has been approved against the expert opinion of the FDA's advisory panel.
    Here's some information on the "study" of a total of 300 people for the booster jab.

    This didn't include any of the kind of people that are actually at risk from the magical COVID virus, but only 12 people over 65.
    One of these 300 healthy people did suffer a heart attack 2 months after the booster. But don't worry, Pfizer honestly concluded that there was no evidence that this was related to the deadly COVID vaccine.

    Naturally this "study" also didn't include a placebo group for control, because these days proper medical trials are "unethical".
    So while Pfizer sort of admitted that there is no evidence of the efficacy, they simply again claimed the (disproven) efficacy from the earlier rigged trial (95% efficacy sounds oh so very impressive): https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/...-pfizer-volume
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  32. #28
    I can't really follow the reasoning behind the claim "39% of Australians were left unable to perform daily activities after having the Covid-19 Vaccine", but other than that this article exposes that the adverse effects of these mRNA vaccines are more serious than the COVID virus (of whatever strain).

    1,007,479 Australians informed the health authorities of the adverse affects of the first Pfizer jab.
    A whopping 37.2% reported an adverse reaction, with 0.5% even needing to see a doctor or go to hospital in the first 3 days after the jab.
    6.7% of the Australians that participated in this survey (67,501 people) were so seriously hurt that they couldn't even perform daily activities (so they couldn't work, study or routine duties) for a short period after the jab.

    770,864 Australians informed the health authorities of the adverse affects of the second Pfizer jab.
    An amazing 56.4% reported an adverse reaction, with 1.3% of participants also needing to see a doctor or go to hospital in the first 3 days after the jab.
    A whopping 21.2% of the Australians that participated in this survey (163,423 people) were so seriously hurt that they couldn't even perform daily activities (so they couldn't work, study or routine duties) for a short period after the jab.



    429,723 Australians informed the health authorities of the adverse affects of the first AstraZeneca jab.
    A huge 55.6% reported an adverse reaction, with 1% of participants also needing to see a doctor or go to hospital in the first 3 days after the jab.
    A whopping 17.6% of the Australians that participated in this survey (75,631 people) were so seriously hurt that they couldn't even perform daily activities (so they couldn't work, study or routine duties) for a short period after the jab.



    199,174 Australians (less than half from after the first jab!) informed the health authorities of the adverse affects of the first AstraZeneca jab.
    26.4% reported an adverse reaction, with 0.5% of participants also needing to see a doctor or go to hospital in the first 3 days after the jab.
    A still considerable 5.3% of the Australians that participated in this survey (75,631 people) were so seriously hurt that they couldn't even perform daily activities (so they couldn't work, study or routine duties) for a short period after the jab.

    To put this (and the harsh lockdown) in perspective, from March 2020 to 14 September 2021 only 0.004% of the Australian population died "from COVID" (1,102 people out of a population of 25 million): https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/15/39-p...id-19-vaccine/
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    Will injecting some unknown substance into my body cause me harm? How long did it take to determine asbestos was a problem? Was smoking once lauded as being healthy? Is it okay to shoot speed or heroin? Is COVID a deadly virus that needs immunization?

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  34. #30
    Earlier posted by @BortSimpson

    Before Taiwan started the COVID vaccination campaign, it had a total of 10 COVID deaths. Since starting COVID vaxxing the population, the total went up to 846 COVID deaths.

    To add injury to insult (or deaths instead of the common cold) there have been 850 deaths following shortly after COVID vaccination (by 6 October, and still counting). Of course our wonderful media deny that vaccination was the cause of (all) these deaths, but they can't deny that this is more than the 836 "COVID deaths" since vaccination began in Taiwan.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-...s-covid-deaths
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