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    "The Plan" in 1912 as leaked by FDR's son-in-law.

    "In 1912, the Democratic Party Headquarters in New York City was located on lower Fifth Avenue. A good friend of mine, then a young man, spent considerable time at the headquarters working as a sort of messenger boy. He was the son of a well-known New York family of Judaic background, and he related to me the following intriguing story which occurred there right before his eyes.

    Occasionally, on a Saturday morning in the summer of 1912, Bernard Baruch would walk into the Democratic Headquarters with Woodrow Wilson in tow, "leading him like one would a poodle on a string."

    Wilson would be quite solemn-faced in appearance, dressed in dark, formal clothes, having just arrived in New York from Trenton.

    According to my friend, Wilson would be given his special "indoctrination course" in politics, by several of the top Advisers assembled there. The course consisted chiefly of outlining to him and his agreeing in principle to:

    1. Aiding and pushing the projected Federal Reserve Bank Legislation through Congress when Paul Warburg approved the final draft of the proposed Act, then being worked on.

    2. Aiding in changing the method of electing U.S. Senators, by establishing a direct vote of the people, which provided more control over the Senate by the professional politicians.

    3. Agreeing to aid and introduce the graduated, personal income tax, which was brought over here from England to drain off the results of our individual initiative.

    4. If called upon, to lend a sympathetic ear and aid indicated "policy" if war should break out in Europe.

    5. To lend a thoughtful ear to recommendations made by "policy", in respect to filling key Cabinet posts.

    Wilson dutifully received and absorbed his indoctrination, shook hands all around, and then departed.

    Whereupon the leaders and Advisers went into "the back room" of headquarters, shut the door, and "had a big belly laugh!". Someone would then ask, "How is our other candidate doing?"

    The other candidate was Theodore Roosevelt, the Bull-Moose leader. Hence, the strong support of that "steering committee" in the 1912 election went out to both Woodrow Wilson and Theodore Roosevelt who had lined up against President Taft. It appeared that President Taft had not been very receptive and disapproved of the political desires expressed by certain pro-Zionist political leaders here in respect to U.S. relations with Russia.

    Thus, the Republican vote was neatly split by the insurgent "Bull Moosers", and the Democratic candidate, Woodrow Wilson, won!

    I was interested t read on page 54 of Felix Frankfurter Reminisces his comments about the 1912 election, saying, "I ... candidly supported Mr. Roosevelt." (T.R.) In due course, Mr. Frankfurter's uncle, Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis, was soon to become important in Washington in the new Wilson Administration.

    I need hardly to say that Woodrow Wilson reversed his role of classroom idealist to become a well-behaved, political pupil, mindful of his careful indoctrination. In due course, he really delivered for his Advisers."

    from pages 97-98 of:
    "F.D.R., My Exploited Father-In-Law", by Curtis B. Dall (1896-1991)
    https://archive.org/details/DallCurtisB....p?q=poodle



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    Woodrow Wilson, by far, is the worst president to ever hold office.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Scrubbed from archive.org. Important stuff. Can still be found though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Scrubbed from archive.org. Important stuff. Can still be found though.
    page 137.
    https://archive.org/details/fdrmyexploitedfa00dall
    https://archive.org/stream/DallCurti...70%29_djvu.txt

    can also be found elsewhere.

    Dall was a real player when this all went down. He knew these people.
    He knew it was all REAL. What they were doing and have done unabated since.

    Compare this bio from 1991 WaPo Obit:
    CONSERVATIVE LOBBYIST CURTIS DALL DIES AT 94
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archi...-e4f066c73565/

    With the facts unmentioned about his life, such as serving in both World Wars, having high positions
    all through Wall Street in the 1920s. "His wide investment experience began on Wall Street in 1920.
    He rose to become syndicate manager of Lehman Brothers, and later was named a partner in the firm now known as
    Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith. He also founded and initially headed the natural gas complex now called Tenneco
    ,
    and engaged in exploration for oil and natural gas in Texas." (1970 blurb)

    the first link is a pdf download.
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=His+wide+i...&t=ffcm&ia=web
    Last edited by Snowball; 05-17-2021 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merkelstan View Post
    Scrubbed from archive.org. Important stuff. Can still be found though.
    More "important stuff" Americans forget about.

    Strange Death of FDR


    https://ersjdamoo.wordpress.com/2014...-death-of-fdr/
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    One of the least widely known, or circulated, yet timely and substantial, considering the sources, beliefs about the death of FDR is that he was murdered, as was his close aide, Gen. Edwin Watson. Not by the Nazis, not by any Americans, not by Stalin, but by Winston Churchill, or a group from the UK in Churchill's inner circle. That's what his son, Elliott Roosevelt believed, and it's what he was told by Stalin. Col. Prouty was a friend of Elliotts, knew all these people.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Open this page, press CTRL+F to open the search box, enter "Prouty"

    https://blackopradio.com/archives2022.html

    MWN Episode 147 – Clark on Prouty
    https://midnightwriternews.com/mwn-episo...on-prouty/

    https://prouty.org/

    "When Roosevelt asked who ″they″ were, Stalin replied, ″The Churchill Gang 3/8 They poisoned your father, and they continue to try to poison me.″

    Stalin Admitted Knowledge Of English, Roosevelt’s Son Says
    RICK HAMPSONFebruary 6, 1986
    https://apnews.com/article/8c6e28a9f7523...00a8903381


    The Murder of Franklin Delano Roosevelt By Tony Hays
    May 15, 2013
    https://www.criminalelement.com/the-murd...tony-hays/

    L. Fletcher Prouty:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._Fletcher_Prouty

    Col. Prouty videos:
    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=col+prouty...deos&ia=videos
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch

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    Cool

    For all practical purposes, FDR's son-in-law.... MISTER CURTIS DALL praised HERBERT HOOVER, liked IKE
    and often was as conservative as BARRY GOLDWATER. FDR himself usually quietly had political opinions that
    were slightly to the RIGHT of NORMAN THOMAS. https://newpol.org/is-the-new-deal-s...norman-thomas/
    BERNIE is bolder than FDR, and FDR himself was part of the Wilson administration. He was on a ticket in 1920.
    Last edited by Aratus; 07-30-2022 at 10:48 AM. Reason: FDR also was maybe perhaps sometimes actually slightly more leftwing than NORMAN THOMAS.

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    https://music.apple.com/us/album/the...n-az/496030832



    https://www.nytimes.com/1964/07/21/a...ter-views.html

    Norman Thomas, the Social1st leader, accused Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona yesterday of providing through his views “a prescription for a third world war.”

    In a letter to Mr. Goldwater, the Republican candidate for President, Mr. Thomas replied to criticisms the Senator had made of the Socialists.

    “We are democratic Socialists,” Mr. Thomas said, “who have opposed Communist totalitarianism. But you and your platform, whatever your intentions, lay down not a prescription for its defeat but for a third world war out of which not liberty but only death will emerge the victor.”

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    Here's another doozie from 1915:

    Nahum Goldman - The Spirit of Militarism (1915) pp. 38-39

    Nahum Goldmann ( Hebrew: נחום גולדמן) (July 10, 1895 - August 29, 1982) was a leading Zionist. He was a founder of the World Jewish Congress and its president from 1951 to 1978, and was also president of the World Zionist Organization from 1956 to 1968.

    All adjustments and reordering now consist of two things: in the destruction of the old order and the reconstruction of the new. First of all, all border posts, regulatory barriers and labels of the previous system must be removed and all elements of the system that are to be reorganized must be disassembled as such, on an equal footing with one another.Only then can the second, the reorganization of these elements, be started.

    Thus, the first task of our time is destruction: all social stratifications and social formations created by the old system must be destroyed, individuals must be torn out of their ancestral milieus; no tradition may be considered sacred any longer; old age is regarded only as a sign of illness; the slogan is: what was, must go. The forces that
    carry out this negative task of our time are: in the economic-social field capitalism, in the political-spiritual field democracy. We all know how much they have already achieved, but we also know that their work is not yet completely finished. Capitalism is still fighting against the forms of the old, traditional economy, democracy is still fighting a hot battle against all forces of reaction. The militaristic spirit will complete the work. Its principle of uniformization will carry out the negative task of the time completely: when all members of our cultural circle are uniformed as soldiers of our cultural system, this one task will be solved.

    But only then the other, greater and more difficult task arises: the construction of the new order. The links, which are now torn out of their old roots and stratifications and lie around disorderly, anarchically, must be closed into new formations and categories; if in the solution of the first task all were at first declared equal, now men must again be divided and differentiated: a new pyramidal, hierarchical system must be established. Capitalism also tried to solve this task; we know with what misfortune. It made the fundamental division into rulers and ruled according to wrong points of view: according to those of wealth, of capitalist power. This second task, too, can only be solved by the militaristic spirit by virtue of its other great guiding principle of subordination. He will bring the true aristocratic principle to rule: Let those who can rule, rule.

    https://ia802206.us.archive.org/18/i...%281915%29.pdf

    https://henrymakow.com/the_destuctiv...ple_of_th.html
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch



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