Feds Raid Rudy Giuliani’s Home in Criminal Probe of Ukraine Work

[Firestarter]

F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/u...ael-cohen.html

Now we're getting somewhere, look into some of the other attorneys working for the Donald... and the Ukraine!
You probably don't want me to post info that connects the lawyers Giuliani and Hunter Biden to the same case...

Can you spell Chabad-Lubavitch?

I would expect that Michael Cohen know a lot about the Chabad-Lubavitch cult than me, as he is a Lubavitcher... and a close friend of Tevfik Arif’s deputy Lubavitcher Felix Sater since they were teenagers!

Viktor Topolov, one of the richest men in Ukraine, was associated with Leonid Roytman who worked for Russian mob boss Semion Mogilevich. Topolov and Alexi Oronov partnered to build an ill-fated factory in Ukraine. So in 2006, they hooked up with none other than Trump’s long-time lawyer Michael Cohen and his brother Bryan Cohen (who just happened to be Oronov’s son-in-law), to pitch the factory deal to Morgan Stanley.

Oronov set up the meeting between Michael Cohen, Trump associate Felix Sater and Ukrainian MP Andrii Artemenko, to draw up a Ukrainian peace plan that Michael Cohen allegedly brought to Michael Flynn’s desk.

Michael Cohen was involved in at least 3 attempts to build Trump properties in the former Soviet Union.

Cohen was the main force behind the failed attempt to construct a Trump tower in Batumi, Georgia, through his “dear friend” Giorgi Rtskhiladze, the head of the Silk Road Transatlantic Alliance.
Cohen, among others, met Yerkin Tatishev, a board member of Silk Road Group suspected of illegally funnelling money to another company he owned, and Georgia’s president, Mikhail Saakashvili.

The Silk Road Group got most of its funds from the Kazakh government-owned BTA Bank, whose assets were directed by Timur Kulibayev, the son-in-law of Kazakhstan’s President Nursultan Nazarbayev: Paul-Manafort-Who-Once-Ran-Trump-Campaign-Indicted-on-Money-Laundering-and-Tax-Charges#post6920218

[dannno]

If he didn't ask attorneys to tell obvious lies in court he wouldn't have that issue.

This would be a great argument, if you were in the CNN comment section.

[jmdrake]

Of course it is..

F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/u...ael-cohen.html

Yes. Michael Cohen paid off Stormy Daniels and then Trump through him under the bus. But that is NOT a general risk. If you have a corrupt client and you do corrupt things for him then you are at risk. But Michael Cohen could have followed the advice of Ron and Nancy Reagan to "just say no" when Trump tried to get him to do something unethical. A lawyer can ethically represent a corrupt individual without getting into trouble. That happens all the time.

Where did he get those claims from? Anonymous sources? Didn't we hear bunk Russiagate and Ukrainegate anonymous sources for several years being reported in the WaPo, NYT, CNN, etc?? What happened to them?

Giuliani had no business making unverified claims on a freaking podcast. If he had kept everything he was doing in the context legal findings he would have had zero liability. And there is absolutely no reason to rely on an "anonymous source" to make a claim about something that can be easily verified through public filings. The corporate structure of Dominion is public information. There was no legitimate reason for Giuliani to say Dominion was owned by SmartMatic.

Wrong again..

https://apnews.com/article/donald-tr...0baa963c1f6ce1

Pages more stories just like this..

https://www.google.com/search?q=trum...4dUDCA4&uact=5

DID YOU EVEN READ THE HEADLINES OF THE ARTICLES YOU POSTED?

From the first article:

Trump can’t hang on to lawyers after false election claims

What part of "after false election claims" do you NOT understand? I was talking about finding lawyers to investigate Burisma which was something that was going on well BEFORE the 2020 election. And I also see that you STILL haven't attempted to answer the question of why didn't Trump come out with the truth about Jeffrey Epstein?

[jmdrake]

This would be a great argument, if you were in the CNN comment section.

It's better than your "Trump couldn't find lawyers in 2019 because of things that happened in 2020" argument. That requires time travel.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Oh no... that poor, poor man.

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TheCount again."

I negged The$#@! to counter your + rep.

[Occam's Banana]

HL-166: Rudy Giuliani RAIDED By FBI! What you Need to Know! Viva & Barnes HIGHLIGHT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UikeQ06mecc

[TheCount]

This would be a great argument, if you were in the CNN comment section.

Do you think that he just so happens to choose future criminals as his attorneys by accident?


He picks them and then they start committing crimes that coincidentally might benefit him.


Kind of strange actually.

[dannno]

Do you think that he just so happens to choose future criminals as his attorneys by accident?


He picks them and then they start committing crimes that coincidentally might benefit him.


Kind of strange actually.

You don't consider 9/11 to have been a crime?

[jmdrake]

You don't consider 9/11 to have been a crime?

Do you think Jeffery Epstein killed himself? Does Trump think that?

[Working Poor]

Not sure how any of that affects my argument about why he was his lawyer.. also, do you not think there was legitimate corruption involved with Hunter/Biden in Ukraine?

Get your head on straight Biden is as pure as the driven snow.

[dannno]

Do you think Jeffery Epstein killed himself? Does Trump think that?

Trump turned Epstein over to the FBI and cooperated with them in the initial 2005 conviction, the whole Epstein angle has got to be the worst argument ever.

[TheCount]

You don't consider 9/11 to have been a crime?

Giuliani did 9/11?

[jmdrake]

Trump turned Epstein over to the FBI and cooperated with them in the initial 2005 conviction, the whole Epstein angle has got to be the worst argument ever.

Total BS from you on that. But even if it were true, Trump allowed Epstein's death (or escape) to be covered up making him (Trump) complicit.

[jmdrake]

Get your head on straight Biden is as pure as the driven snow.

So now we've gone from strawman arguments to snowman arguments? Nobody is arguing that Biden isn't corrupt. But nobody, including @dannno, has come forward with a legit argument as to why Trump isn't also corrupt. In fact @dannno said Trump is corrupt in his business dealings...but somehow he's a saint when it comes to the American people....except for those girls that got raped by Jeffery Epstein and who won't get justice because Epstein didn't kill himself.

[dannno]

Total BS from you on that. But even if it were true, Trump allowed Epstein's death (or escape) to be covered up making him (Trump) complicit.

It is true..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nsion-him.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...riendship.html

If you think Trump killed Epstein or tried covering anything up, you are nuts..

[Working Poor]

So now we've gone from strawman arguments to snowman arguments? Nobody is arguing that Biden isn't corrupt. But nobody, including @dannno, has come forward with a legit argument as to why Trump isn't also corrupt. In fact @dannno said Trump is corrupt in his business dealings...but somehow he's a saint when it comes to the American people....except for those girls that got raped by Jeffery Epstein and who won't get justice because Epstein didn't kill himself.

I understand. I know Trump ain't no saint by a long shot. I voted for him once because I was concerned about Clinton being president. I did not vote in the last election mainly because a very dear friend was in the hospital and I did not want to leave him by himself. But I could have slipped out and voted but I just said nah what's the point I don't want either one.

[jmdrake]

It is true..

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nsion-him.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...riendship.html

Did you read your own article? According to the DailyMail the only reason Trump outed Epstein is because Epstein was blackmailing him. Which gave Trump ample reason to want him dead.

If you think Trump killed Epstein or tried covering anything up, you are nuts..

Trump's own AG, William Barr, ruled Epstein's death a suicide. You are nuts if you can't put 2 and 2 togehter and get 4.

[jmdrake]

I understand. I know Trump ain't no saint by a long shot. I voted for him once because I was concerned about Clinton being president. I did not vote in the last election mainly because a very dear friend was in the hospital and I did not want to leave him by himself. But I could have slipped out and voted but I just said nah what's the point I don't want either one.

I hear ya. I live in a solidly red state so my vote didn't matter anyway.

[dannno]

Did you read your own article? According to the DailyMail the only reason Trump outed Epstein is because Epstein was blackmailing him. Which gave Trump ample reason to want him dead.

In 2005? Then he got out of prison, and... what happened??

[jmdrake]

In 2005? Then he got out of prison, and... what happened??

He got suicided in jail. Trump's attorney General William Barr closed the investigation. Trump acquiesced to the investigation being closed.

[Invisible Man]

You guys are trying to beat a man at his own game. You can't win. There is absolutely nothing Trump can ever do that dannno is not capable of spinning a different way. Every time you point out a way that his explanation defies reason, he will divert to something else. The more ridiculous he becomes, the more satisfied he is with himself over it. If you are hoping for some kind of resolution here where he says any variation of, "Good point," then he will have you entangled in his web of hypotheses for the rest of your lives before you ever achieve that.

[dannno]

He got suicided in jail. Trump's attorney General William Barr closed the investigation. Trump acquiesced to the investigation being closed.

LOL, so Epstein had over 12 years to "blackmail" Trump after he had him sent to prison, and still wasn't able to do it? What does that tell you?

[dannno]

You guys are trying to beat a man at his own game. You can't win. There is absolutely nothing Trump can ever do that dannno is not capable of spinning a different way. Every time you point out a way that his explanation defies reason, he will divert to something else. The more ridiculous he becomes, the more satisfied he is with himself over it. If you are hoping for some kind of resolution here where he says any variation of, "Good point," then he will have you entangled in his web of hypotheses for the rest of your lives before you ever achieve that.

Uh, try the opposite. Trump outted Epstein to the cops in 2005, had him kicked out of mar-a-lago, there is no evidence he ever went to the island.. I'm not the one spinning bull$#@! here.

It looks to me like you need to have your bull$#@! detector re-calibrated.

[jmdrake]

LOL, so Epstein had over 12 years to "blackmail" Trump after he had him sent to prison, and still wasn't able to do it? What does that tell you?

LOL. Epstein got suicided in prison and Trump's AG covered it up. What does that tell you? You won't answer that question.

[dannno]

LOL. Epstein got suicided in prison and Trump's AG covered it up. What does that tell you? You won't answer that question.

Did you consider that the AG may have been a satanic pedophile?

Or maybe Epstein is alive, as photos strongly indicate, and is being held under military supervision?

[jmdrake]

Did you consider that the AG may have been a satanic pedophile?

Trump hired a satanic pedophile and let him stay on through the end of the term? Yeah...that's possible. Shows Trump really didn't give a rip about the American people.

Or maybe Epstein is alive, as photos strongly indicate, and is being held under military supervision?

Great. And now in the hands of Biden. One corrupt politician handed him off to another.

[dannno]

Trump hired a satanic pedophile and let him stay on through the end of the term? Yeah...that's possible. Shows Trump really didn't give a rip about the American people.

You know the President is not a dictator, right? It's not like he could just hire or fire whoever he wanted. He also doesn't know who all the satanic pedophiles are. If he wanted to know if they were, the best way was to hire them and expose them.

Great. And now in the hands of Biden. One corrupt politician handed him off to another.

That is one possibility, but doesn't really jive.

More like the patriots lost him to a corrupt politician - or - or - the patriots still have him.

[jmdrake]

You know the President is not a dictator, right? It's not like he could just hire or fire whoever he wanted. He also doesn't know who all the satanic pedophiles are. If he wanted to know if they were, the best way was to hire them and expose them.

LOL. Have you ever READ the constitution? An AG nominated by the POTUS. And the president can unilaterally fire an AG.

See: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...torney-general

That is one possibility, but doesn't really jive.

More like the patriots lost him to a corrupt politician - or - or - the patriots still have him.

[dannno]

LOL. Have you ever READ the constitution? An AG nominated by the POTUS. And the president can unilaterally fire an AG.

See: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/t...torney-general

I was not aware that nominate meant the same thing as hiring...

As far as firing, I guess he could but how do you think that would have worked out?

[jmdrake]

I was not aware that nominate meant the same thing as hiring...

So....let me see if I understand your argument. Donald Trump nominated a satanic pedophile to be AG because......?

As far as firing, I guess he could but how do you think that would have worked out?

You know what? At this point it doesn't matter. You no longer have any legitimate reason to ever complain about any action taken by any president, past, present or future. If you can justify Trump supposedly nominating a satanic pedophile and keeping that pedophile in place after that pedophile covers up the murder or escape of a child sex slavery then anyone can justify any action taken by any president.