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    Lockdown causes more COVID deaths than it prevents

    Some "conspiracy theorists" seem to argue that the brutal lockdown is worse than the COVID "pandemic". It's obvious to even the most gullible of fools that the lockdown has negatively influenced our economy (and even our way of live).
    The following scientific-looking paper concludes that in 24 European countries, the countries with the harshest lockdowns had the highest death rates.

    The "hard lockdown" group of countries experienced 372 additional deaths per million, while the other countries (only) experienced excess mortality of 123 deaths. This suggests that lockdowns have caused 200% more deaths than they prevented.

    The grey lines show weekly mortality in the first half of the year for countries with a "soft" lockdown, while black lines show mortality for the "harsh" lockdown countries.
    The full lines are the mortality in the first half of 2020, while the dotted lines show average mortality for the first halves of 2017, 2018, and 2019.


    The data also suggest that lockdowns have led to significantly higher mortality among the population aged between 60 and 79 years (that's younger than the average age of COVID fatalities).

    Of course it could be argued that these countries needed the harshest lockdown because for some reason they experienced a worse "pandemic" than their neighbours (which seems impossible if the "pandemic" is caused by an infectious coronavirus).
    More important is that the determination of COVID cases and deaths seems to be more of a political than scientific question, with protocols to determine these differing from nation to nation. So at least in part this could be explained if the countries with the more draconian lockdowns, also had the most flexible way to count a death as caused by COVID.


    Christian Bjørnskov - Did Lockdown Work? An Economist’s Cross-Country Comparison (March 2021): https://academic.oup.com/cesifo/adva...fab003/6199605
    (https://archive.is/J9xgw)
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    The following article argues that because there were 70,000 excessive deaths in Poland in 2020, while only 20,000 of those were caused by the coronavirus infection,

    50,000 people in Poland died NOT from COVID-19, but from the lockdown (most importantly the closing of health care facilities): https://rmx.news/article/commentary/...matically-high
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    They need to lock us down to protect our freedom.

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    On 13 May 2020, a “scientific” looking report was published that shows that 2/3 of the excess deaths in England and Wales was NOT caused by COVID-19. This suggests that 20,000 deaths (of the 30,000 excess deaths) were caused by the draconian lockdown measures.
    David Spiegelhalter, chair of the Winton Centre for Risk and Evidence Communication at the University of Cambridge, said that Covid-19 did not explain the high number of deaths taking place in the community.
    At a briefing hosted by the Science Media Centre on May 12 he explained that, over the past five weeks, care homes and other community settings had had to deal with a ‘staggering burden’ of 30,000 more deaths than would normally be expected, as patients were moved out of hospitals that were anticipating high demand for beds.

    Of those 30,000, only 10 000 have had Covid-19 specified on the death certificate. While Spiegelhalter acknowledged that some of these ‘excess deaths’ might be the result of underdiagnosis, ‘the huge number of unexplained extra deaths in homes and care homes is extraordinary. When we look back . . . this rise in non-covid extra deaths outside the hospital is something I hope will be given really severe attention.’ He added that many of these deaths would be among people ‘who may well have lived longer if they had managed to get to hospital.’
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    It is estimated that 16,000 people died in the UK from 23 March to the end of April as a direct result of the coronavirus martial law. With another 26,000 to die in the “next month” (May or August?).

    It is estimated that from 23 March to the end of April, 25,000 Britons died because of COVID-19 and that 2,500 deaths have been prevented by the lockdown (do the math!): https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ronavirus.html


    One of the most important new causes of death in this “pandemic”… “not-urgent” medical treatments have been postponed (which means cancelled in the case of death)…
    This has kept hospitals empty (bailed out with newly printed money) and some of these treatments would have prevented deaths.

    At least 25,000 more people have died at home during the pandemic in England and Wales because they were refused hospital treatment, a surge of 43.8%.

    I have my “doubts” about cancer treatment, but here are some examples (from the UK).
    Treatment for strokes fell by 45%, causing over 2,000 excess deaths from heart disease;
    Organ transplants fell by 67%, with the number of those dying on the transplant waiting list almost doubling;
    Delays in cancer treatment could cause a 20% rise in cancer deaths in England – 6,270 excess deaths in 2020;
    More than 50,000 operations for children were cancelled.

    Besides that calls to child abuse helplines skyrocketed.
    Rates of depression and anxiety doubled and thousands of recovering alcoholics have relapsed: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...laid-bare.html
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    With nothing else to do… what else to turn to than drugs, alcohol and TV?!?
    As part of the corona master plan, drug addiction has spiralled even further out of control. Deaths from narcotics were already at record levels in 2019 with roughly 71,000 deaths. But overdose deaths have jumped by another 28% in Colorado, 30% in Kentucky, and 9% in Washington State in a year.

    While most of the COVID-19 deaths are elderly people with serious (other) health problems, in the USA young adults aged 25-44 years saw the largest increase in “excess” deaths, a whopping 26.5% jump (so higher than even the elderly).
    The CDC has reported that 100,947 excess deaths were not linked to COVID-19 at all (most of those “excess deaths” seem to be the result of the corona lockdown that is causing a “pandemic”).

    Psychiatric problems are also skyrocketing…
    With calls to the Disaster Distress Helpline 890% higher in April 2020 compared to the year before.
    In Fresno, California, and Los Alamos, New Mexico, significant increases in death by suicide, going as high as 70% have been reported.

    Small businesses have been devastated and pushed an estimated 8 million Americans into poverty (this could also cause psychiatric problems).

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/new-c...n-young-people
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    This topic is racist
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    The following graph seems to confirm that countries without a draconian lockdown are "saving lives"...

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who...vid19-part-one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter View Post
    The following graph seems to confirm that countries without a draconian lockdown are "saving lives"...

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who...vid19-part-one
    And note that the U.S. had fewer deaths per million than the UK, France, Spain, Italy and Belgium. But listening to liars like Dr. Fauci and you'd think we had the worst COVID on the planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    And note that the U.S. had fewer deaths per million than the UK, France, Spain, Italy and Belgium. But listening to liars like Dr. Fauci and you'd think we had the worst COVID on the planet.
    In a strange twist, there seems to be a correlation between the legal immunity for medical malpractices of care homes, and the amount of COVID fatalities in states in the US.
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    In Germany an “official” 93-pages report was drafted by a scientific panel that is negative about the lockdown in Germany under the guise of the coronavirus “pandemic”. This report became quite controversial.
    Stephen Kohn, the whistleblower who leaked the report, has since been suspended from duty.

    See some excerpts from the following story on this draft report (the full report is in German).
    • The danger is obviously no greater than that of many other viruses. There is no evidence that this was more than a false alarm.
    • A reproach could go along these lines: During the Corona crisis the State has proved itself as one of the biggest producers of Fake News.
    (…)

    More people are dying because of state-imposed Corona-measures than they are being killed by the virus.
    The reason is a scandal in the making:
    A Corona-focused German healthcare system is postponing life-saving surgery and delaying or reducing treatment for non-Corona patients.
    (…)

    “Therapeutic and preventive measures should never bring more harm than the illness itself. Their aim should be to protect the risk groups, without endegearing the availibilty of medical care and the health of the whole population, as it is unfortunately occurring”
    “We in the scientific and medical praxis are experiencing the secondary damages of the Corona-measures on our patients on a dialy basis.”
    Interior Minister Horst Seehofer, who is in charge of the ministry that drafted the report, had this to say about the report:
    If you start analyzing papers like that, then pretty soon you’ll be inviting the guys with the tin foil hats to parliamentary hearings.
    https://www.strategic-culture.org/ne...l-false-alarm/
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    Physiotherapists in Ireland are warning about a “tsunami” of health problems among older people forced to stay at home because of the corona lockdown. Many are having balance difficulties leading to falls (this might also be caused by the experimental COVID vaccines...) and also face a “fear element and lack of confidence” about emerging back into "normal" day-to-day life.
    .
    It is the silent impact of the pandemic. While Covid has affected and continues to affect many people, the restrictions around the pandemic are actually affecting many, many more.
    We are facing a tsunami of decreased health in the next few years. There has been a widespread decrease in the strength, balance and bone health of older people in particular. This is leading to stiffness, weakness and frailty, which will lead to fractures and surgery. Frailty can be the start of real decline.
    It doesn’t even make economic sense to allow all this deteriorate into an escalation of healthcare costs, because of surgery, hip replacements and the like.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/heal...lems-1.4547097
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    Imagine the problems if people stop believing ALL the coronavirus pandemic propaganda, before you know it, people will lose trust in the media and start thinking for themselves...
    Thanks to all of the "fact checker" stories like the following can easily be ridiculed, despite the fact that it comes much closer to the truth than all the COVID disaster fear mongering.


    Studies show that the positive effects of the lockdown, to stop spreading the COVID-19 virus, are neglible at best.
    A medRxiv study concluded that “Claimed benefits of lockdown appear grossly exaggerated]”.
    Another study by European epidemiologists found that “Stringency of the measures settled to fight pandemia, including lockdown, did not appear to be linked with death rate”: https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/strict...-saving-lives/


    The negative impact of the lockdown on the economy is undeniable, so "We’ve locked down the economy instead of the virus".
    Jobs are recovering slower in New York and other states with the most draconian COVID-19 lockdown, than in states that reopened their economies, making (or keeping) the unemployment rates high: https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/covid-...e-saved-lives/
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    The following proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the lockdown didn't prevent any deaths in New York, the US state with most COVID deaths...

    Data from 100 New York hospitals involving about 1,000 patients shows that 66% of new admissions for COVID-19 were people who had largely been sheltering at home. The second highest source of admissions was from nursing homes, 18%.

    Instead of easing the lockdown, as this apparently doesn’t prevent so-called COVID-19 hospitalisations, New York State Governor Andrew Cuomo commented:
    This is a surprise: Overwhelmingly, the people were at home. We thought maybe they were taking public transportation, and we’ve taken special precautions on public transportation, but actually no, because these people were literally at home.
    This suggests that staying at home, or locking people up in their rooms in nursing homes was the real cause of death for many of these "COVID-19 fatalities": https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-g...ying-home.html
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    - The Centre for Mental Health estimates that about 8.5 million adults and 1.5 million children in England will need support for depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorders and other mental health difficulties in the coming months and years.
    - This is approximately 20% of all adults and 15% of all children.
    ...
    - Experts warn that we face an epidemic of suicides with young people most likely to be victims.
    Susan Michie and Robert West of a subcommittee of SAGE concluded that more fear is needed:
    A substantial number of people still do not feel sufficiently personally threatened. The perceived level of personal threat needs to be increased among those who are complacent, using hard-hitting emotional messaging.
    https://timeforrecovery.org/fear/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestarter
    With nothing else to do, because of the coronavirus lockdown, people have turned to recreational drugs.
    In 2020, deaths from opioids and drug addiction in the US increased threefold.
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    Alcohol killed more people in England and Wales in 2020 than any year since 2001 (when this number was first? recorded). Because of the corona lockdown, many Brits turned to alcohol to cope with isolation.

    There were 7,423 drinking related deaths in 2020, 20% more than in 2019.
    The number of deaths caused by alcohol only started rise considerably, after the lockdown was started in March 2020: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lockdowns.html
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    Officially tuberculosis is the deadliest infectious disease in the world, infecting 10 million people and killing 1.5 million per year, even though no brutal lockdown has been enforced over this disease that's much deadlier than COVID.

    Some experts think that the response to the corona pandemic will massively increase the number of tuberculosis deaths, as this has resulted in a nearly 25% decrease in TB diagnosis and treatment around the world: https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...c-report-finds
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    Lockdown causes more COVID deaths than it prevents
    A very likely hypothesis, for a myriad of reasons. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, fear and ignorance.

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    For the last year, euthanasia en masse (maybe murder is a better word?) was committed across UK care homes.
    It look like many of these dead people were deprived of food and water, and pumped full of morphine and midazolam, leading to their deaths. Which were then reported as COVID-19 fatalities.

    For some reason, in March 2020 the UK Government ordered a two-year supply of midazolam, a drug that causes respiratory distress. This two-year supply of midazolam was already finished by January 2021.
    In April 2020 prescriptions for midazolam was double that of April 2019.

    To hide the genocide, the law was changed so that medical quacks could certify the cause of death as COVID-19 even without any evidence of a COVID infection, “to the best of their knowledge and belief”: https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/06/21...-matt-hancock/
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    What could be worse than I have already posted?

    According to the "reputable" Economist, there have been 7-13 million excess deaths worldwide during the pandemic
    Officially a total number of 3.8 million COVID deaths have happened worldwide. This suggest that the response to the COVID "pandemic" has caused (IS) a genocide of 3-9 million deaths.
    https://www.economist.com/briefing/2...g-the-pandemic
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    It has been reported (even) by the mainstream media that in the UK Do Not Resuscitate orders (DNRs) in nursing homes were abused as a form of involuntary "euthanasia" (that's "murder"!) during the early stages of the COVID "pandemic"...

    In November 2020, the Care Quality Commission (CQC) concluded:
    Some care home residents were wrongly subjected to decisions ruling out attempts at cardiopulmonary resuscitation (CPR) in the early stages of the covid-19 pandemic, leading to potentially avoidable deaths.
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/06/22/...ry-euthanasia/
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    Some "conspiracy theorists" have noted more than a year ago that hunger kills more people (especially children in the third world) than the coronavirus ever could.
    As a result of the pandemic global food prices hit a new high.

    This has resulted in a huge increase in hungry people, by more than 150 million.
    From 2019 to 2020 food insecure people went from around 650 million to 811 million people, more than 10% of the world population.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pa...crisis-unfolds
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  30. #26
    With nothing else to do, what else can people turn to then booze and drugs? Another intended consequence of the draconian lockdown.
    In England, an additional 12.6 million litres of alcohol were sold in shops.

    People drinking at "high risk level" increased by 58.6% from March 2020 to March 2021.
    Alcoholic liver deaths in England rose from 5,819 in 2019 to 6,893 in 2020, a 21% increase: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...king-home.html
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    Of course these psychopaths knew in advance that the lockdown would cost more lives than it would save (even when you believe the official tale on the COVID pandemic)...
    In the Netherlands somebody through a FOIA (WOB in Dutch) got a hold of the risk-benefit analysis of the Dutch ministry of economics (Economische zaken) from March 2020...
    Unfortunately only in Dutch.

    Estimating that the lockdown would save 100,000 life years, but would cost 620,000 life years. So the lockdown would cost an estimated 520,000 life years.
    This is premeditated and planned mass murder...

    That's besides the immense economic costs.
    The health costs of the lockdown would include mental health problems and health problems as a direct result of stopping "normal" medical procedures.

    The health benefits of the lockdown would be a maximum of €8 billion.
    The health costs of the lockdown would be €50 billion + €100 billion + increase of the government debt €200 billion, making a grand total of €350 billion.
    Or a (minimum) net cost of €350 billion - €8 billion = €342 billion.
    (in Dutch): https://archive.is/CO5R3
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    In the UK, the first year of the pandemic (since March 2020) saw hospital appointments for the 6 major illnesses - cancer, heart attacks, stroke, diabetes, and mental illness (that's 5...) - plummet with around 330,000; the biggest drop was for cancer, with 285,413 fewer hospital admissions.
    It is expected that this will lead to (and already has caused) major health problems...

    Because of the lockdown, also up to 50,000 dementia cases were missed: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-lockdown.html
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  34. #30
    The genocide supporting UN has repeatedly warned (or boasted?) that some 41 million people worldwide are at risk of famine.

    Instead of denouncing the lockdown that is causing this hunger pandemic, the UN World Food Programme (WFP) demands $6 billion to "help" those at risk in 43 countries: https://www.reuters.com/world/un-age...ne-2021-06-22/
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