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  1. #31
    Biden just announced his gun control agenda:




    1. Ghost guns – regulate them under the GCA and serialize the 80 percent lowers. A proposed rule will be issued by the ATF within 30 days.



    2. Create an annual report from DOJ on firearms trafficking.



    3. Pistols with stabilizing braces to be treated as NFA items. A proposed rule will be issued by the ATF within 60 days.


    4. Make it easier for states to adopt Red Flag Gun Confiscation laws. He also tied Red Flag to VAWA. “I want to see a Natl. Red Flag”



    5. Ordering DOJ to publish a statement on how states can develop Red Flag laws.




    6. Expanding the Project Safe Neighborhoods initiative (aka Project Gestapo).




    7. Nominating David Chipman, hardcore gun-grabber, to serve as ATF Director.



    He concluded by calling on Senate to pass Universal Gun Reg bill, Charleston “loophole bill”, and reauthorize VAWA (mentioned “boyfriend” loophole). Also called on Congress to ban magazines, so-called assault weapons, and make gun manufactures liable for mass shootings.
    Last edited by Matt Collins; 04-08-2021 at 11:20 AM.
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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    He knows it won't hold up in court, which is what makes this 44DD chess because Biden actually supports gun rights but he can't come out and say it so he supports them by passing illegal and unconstitutional executive orders.
    Are you trying to be sarcastic?



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Are you trying to be sarcastic?
    Yes. I'm mocking certain posters' arguments as to why Trump's gun control was good, while Biden's is bad.
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Yes. I'm mocking certain posters' arguments as to why Trump's gun control was good, while Biden's is bad.
    Who supported Trump's gun control policies in this forum?

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Who supported Trump's gun control policies in this forum?
    You don't have to scroll up far:

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    LOL
    Trump did lots of things to prove he was pro-gun.
    Biden has done, is doing, and promises to do many things that prove he is anti-gun.
    Trump kept the RINOs from caving and passing gun control legislation, Biden is trying to bypass the opposition in Congress that is preventing legislation because they are out of power and have to look good if they want the majority again.
    Trump gambled that his judges would kill the ban of a trivial gimmick, Biden is virtue signalling to his base while making a risk free gamble that if executive bans are upheld he will impose serious gun control with this just being the start.
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  8. #36
    Once again, Biden is a $#@!ing madman.
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  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    You don't have to scroll up far:
    That's not support and you know it isn't.

    I said at the time Trump houldn't have done it and I have never said it was the thing he should have done.
    Explanation is not support.
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  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That's not support and you know it isn't.

    I said at the time Trump houldn't have done it and I have never said it was the thing he should have done.
    Explanation is not support.
    You do not support it yet you are satisfied with the outcome?
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    You do not support it yet you are satisfied with the outcome?
    Compared to what? We don't know how things would have turned out the other way.
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Compared to what? We don't know how things would have turned out the other way.
    It's pretty easy to see how things would have turned out the other way. If Trump hadn't tarnished the 2A, then Trump wouldn't have tarnished the 2A. Which itself is a good enough reason not to tarnish the 2A.

    With that said, it's also extremely unlikely that any gun legislation would have gotten past his veto.

    So in reality, if Trump hadn't issued an EO that expanded powers and tarnished the 2A, it's not like "worse laws" would have been passed.
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  15. #42
    biden is a commie gun grabber that would prefer to disarm the population before your taxed 100 percent and put on food stamps . Anyone not opposed to biden is also a commie gun grabber.
    Do something Danke

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    You do not support it yet you are satisfied with the outcome?
    I don't support people going bungee jumping or cliff diving but if they survive I am satisfied with the outcome.
    I don't support people betting the farm on a roll of the dice but if they win and stop I am satisfied with the outcome.

    I will not be satisfied with the outcome of Trump's gambit until SCOTUS rules against the executive bans and limits bureaucratic "interpretation" of laws.
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    It's pretty easy to see how things would have turned out the other way. If Trump hadn't tarnished the 2A, then Trump wouldn't have tarnished the 2A. Which itself is a good enough reason not to tarnish the 2A.

    With that said, it's also extremely unlikely that any gun legislation would have gotten past his veto.

    So in reality, if Trump hadn't issued an EO that expanded powers and tarnished the 2A, it's not like "worse laws" would have been passed.
    Trump's veto of the last NDAA (which Congress overrode) indicates there is some doubt about whether worse laws would have passed but I tend to agree on that point and said he shouldn't have done it.
    What Trump gambled for and hopefully will win is a firm limitation on executive branch regulatory power and possibly an expansion of 2ndA protections from the current second class status they receive.

    What is certain is that the Demoncrats would have tried this no matter what Trump did or didn't do.
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  19. #46
    Since Biden said all amendment aren't absolute, lets all do our part and disobey the 16th Amendment.
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