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    would you sign my petition?

    I have created a petition to make the sale of single cigarettes legal. I think it is ridiculous that store owners can face heavy fines or go to jail for selling singles or loosies.

    Used to live near a store that sold loosies and I smoked maybe 3 a day now I am back up to a pack a day because the community I live in had a massive bust of convenience stores that sold singles.

    I feel that this is a liberty issue that could help many people. I believe starting out on small laws could help unravel the massive unconstitutional laws on our books right now. I would gladly help my liberty buddies challenge any law that is unconstitutional. The very idea that a place can sell a pack or a carton of smokes but not a single is so stupid and even hateful because it does nothing to reduce harm and even makes harm more likely. I am petitioning the FDA on this since they claim to care so much. I have been banned from most social media sites so I cannot share the link but if you feel that this is an issue you could get behind please also share it on your social media page. The petition site won't even help promote my petition unless I get at least 5 signatures so please help if you can.

    Make The Sale of Single Cigarettes Legal

    shareable link here http://chng.it/f8MYty4PWq



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    So you need to go to the store everyday to purchase 3 cigarettes because if you purchase a 7 day supply you smoke them all in one day? Do you purchase milk by the glass? Do you eat the entire jar of peanut butter as soon as you get home from the store?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    So you need to go to the store everyday to purchase 3 cigarettes because if you purchase a 7 day supply you smoke them all in one day? Do you purchase milk by the glass? Do you eat the entire jar of peanut butter as soon as you get home from the store?
    So you need the government to give its permission first before other people are allowed sell or purchase things in some quantity other than one in which you would sell or purchase them? (If people didn't want to buy single cigarettes - for whatever reason - then Eric Garner wouldn't have been able to sell them ...)


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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    So you need to go to the store everyday to purchase 3 cigarettes because if you purchase a 7 day supply you smoke them all in one day? Do you purchase milk by the glass? Do you eat the entire jar of peanut butter as soon as you get home from the store?
    Are you aware that single servings of milk and peanut butter are available to purchase? I only buy milk for a recipe even a quart would go bad in my frige.

    I guess you won't sign my petition...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I have created a petition to make the sale of single cigarettes legal. I think it is ridiculous that store owners can face heavy fines or go to jail for selling singles or loosies.

    Used to live near a store that sold loosies and I smoked maybe 3 a day now I am back up to a pack a day because the community I live in had a massive bust of convenience stores that sold singles.

    I feel that this is a liberty issue that could help many people. I believe starting out on small laws could help unravel the massive unconstitutional laws on our books right now. I would gladly help my liberty buddies challenge any law that is unconstitutional. The very idea that a place can sell a pack or a carton of smokes but not a single is so stupid and even hateful because it does nothing to reduce harm and even makes harm more likely. I am petitioning the FDA on this since they claim to care so much. I have been banned from most social media sites so I cannot share the link but if you feel that this is an issue you could get behind please also share it on your social media page. The petition site won't even help promote my petition unless I get at least 5 signatures so please help if you can.

    Make The Sale of Single Cigarettes Legal

    shareable link here http://chng.it/f8MYty4PWq
    Signed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olehounddog View Post
    Signed it.
    I knew I could count on my @olehounddog. I think if we challenge small laws it will become easier to challenge the big ones like the patriot act....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    So you need the government to give its permission first before other people are allowed sell or purchase things in some quantity other than one in which you would sell or purchase them? (If people didn't want to buy single cigarettes - for whatever reason - then Eric Garner wouldn't have been able to sell them ...)
    Yep. Rand was right of course.

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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I have created a petition to make the sale of single cigarettes legal. I think it is ridiculous that store owners can face heavy fines or go to jail for selling singles or loosies.

    Used to live near a store that sold loosies and I smoked maybe 3 a day now I am back up to a pack a day because the community I live in had a massive bust of convenience stores that sold singles.

    I feel that this is a liberty issue that could help many people. I believe starting out on small laws could help unravel the massive unconstitutional laws on our books right now. I would gladly help my liberty buddies challenge any law that is unconstitutional. The very idea that a place can sell a pack or a carton of smokes but not a single is so stupid and even hateful because it does nothing to reduce harm and even makes harm more likely. I am petitioning the FDA on this since they claim to care so much. I have been banned from most social media sites so I cannot share the link but if you feel that this is an issue you could get behind please also share it on your social media page. The petition site won't even help promote my petition unless I get at least 5 signatures so please help if you can.

    Make The Sale of Single Cigarettes Legal

    shareable link here http://chng.it/f8MYty4PWq
    I tried to sign but it keeps saying "There was an error submitting your signature."
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    So you need to go to the store everyday to purchase 3 cigarettes because if you purchase a 7 day supply you smoke them all in one day? Do you purchase milk by the glass? Do you eat the entire jar of peanut butter as soon as you get home from the store?
    Not sure if you're being serious or trolling but....

    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I tried to sign but it keeps saying "There was an error submitting your signature."
    I will see if there is something to be done about that. Did you try to do it thru a social media account? I will try to wait back for your reply before investigating. This is the first time I ever did this using this site so I am not sure of all their restrictions and bugs. I thank you for trying and for letting me know.

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    Pathetic, in a so-called free country, and the fact I am opposed to “petitions”. I don’t ask permission, nor should you. But the “do-gooders” won’t do anything without the express permission of strangers which is none of their stinking business.

    Anyway, between me and a couple of my liberty friends you got a few more cigs sigs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I will see if there is something to be done about that. Did you try to do it thru a social media account? I will try to wait back for your reply before investigating. This is the first time I ever did this using this site so I am not sure of all their restrictions and bugs. I thank you for trying and for letting me know.
    My bad! I logged in and signed.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    My bad! I logged in and signed.
    Thanks babe

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Pathetic, in a so-called free country, and the fact I am opposed to “petitions”. I don’t ask permission, nor should you. But the “do-gooders” won’t do anything without the express permission of strangers which is none of their stinking business.

    Anyway, between me and a couple of my liberty friends you got a few more cigs sigs.
    I agree it should not be this way. I wish the Convenience stores in my area were not so afraid of being fined and closed because of it but I want to see if it gets enough interest. I consider it an experiment. I think we need to start chipping away at these BS laws any way we can. I really appreciate your effort to help me with this.

    Ya'll are my social media I have been banned at all the major sites because of my stand on vaccines. So if you feel like you can sign this petition I really thank you for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    So you need to go to the store everyday to purchase 3 cigarettes because if you purchase a 7 day supply you smoke them all in one day? Do you purchase milk by the glass? Do you eat the entire jar of peanut butter as soon as you get home from the store?
    Thankfully I am not tempted by milk or peanut butter .
    Do something Danke

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    I browsed the Change.org site (the place where the petition is) to see what kind of other petitions are going up there. To me it looks like they need a dose of real liberty. I look at this petition as like a small crack in the dam of taking our rights back incrementally like they have been taking them for years..

    The masses are so programed that they don't know how to think about liberty any more. I am looking for other ideas for petitions that might incrementally start taking back liberty. Think small think about stuff that affects us all in little irritating ways. Let's work on removing small pebbles in this wall.

    I put a link to the petition in a local site that I go to. I got a bunch of flack from non smokers about I just need to quit. smoking. I answered every comment saying this is not about me asking for quit smoking advise it s about why can a store legally sell 200 cigarettes at one time but not just one? I knew that eventually as I stood up to them others who feel the same way I do would start chiming in. People are afraid to go against the narrative even if they don't believe it. I gently moved the conversation to being about freedom and liberty and it is working. One person who was saying I ought to just quit signed the petition because they thought about it from the liberty position. So lets have a brain storm on incremental liberty. Lets do it right under their noses. Help me liberty lover....



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    15 have signed .
    Do something Danke

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    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    15 have signed .
    The system that records the numbers there is slow in recording by their own admission and they say it can take up to 24 hours for the signature to be counted. I noticed that yours has shown up but several others have signed who haven't showed up yet so it is probably more than 15. I also noticed that someone named Cody made a donation goes to promotion and I really appericiate it. Thanks Cody.
    And thank you too Uncle Chief.

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    Up to 22 . Come on slackers !
    Do something Danke



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