Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: How Finland and Norway Proved Sweden’s Approach to COVID-19 Works

  1. #1

    How Finland and Norway Proved Sweden’s Approach to COVID-19 Works

    Something to share with your friends who still think that lockdowns worked.

    https://fee.org/articles/how-finland...ovid-19-works/
    The coronavirus is back in force. Many nations around the world are seeing alarming rises in cases and deaths, totals that in many instances exceed the highs reached in March, April, and May.

    From the beginning of the pandemic, governments around the world have tried to tame the virus. All have failed, to varying degrees.

    Whether governments implement draconian lockdowns, modest lockdowns, or no lockdowns at all, the virus has spread. Some countries with harsh lockdowns have fared better; many have fared worse. As some have pointed out, the virus doesn’t seem to care what policies you put in place.

    Belgium, for example, has the second highest COVID-19 death rate in the world even though it implemented one of the strictest lockdowns in the world (81.5 stringency). Italy and Spain had even harsher lockdowns, and both countries are also among the most devastated by the virus. (Italy’s current death rate is lower than that of Belgium and Spain, but the country is facing a resurgence of the virus that looks positively frightening.)


    We can measure lockdown stringency because of a feature created by Our World in Data, a research team based at the University of Oxford that produces information in all sorts of wonderful charts and graphs.

    While most of the world went into lockdown in March, Swedish officials chose to forgo a full lockdown, opting instead for a “lighter touch” approach that relied on cooperation with citizens, who were given public health information and encouraged to behave responsibly.

    Our World in Data shows Sweden’s government response stringency never reached 50, peaking at about 46 from late April to early June. (As a point of reference, the US averaged a stringency of about 70 from March to September.) This is well below the top stringency of Spain (85) and Italy (94).

    Yet, Sweden’s per capita death rate is lower than Spain, Belgium, Italy and other nations despite the fact that it did not initiate a lockdown. As a result, Sweden’s economy was spared much of the damage these nations suffered (though not all).

    Despite the apparent success of Sweden’s strategy, the Swedes have found themselves attacked. The New York Times has described Sweden’s policy as a “cautionary tale,” while other media outlets have used it as an illustration of how not to handle the coronavirus.

    Critics of Sweden’s policy point out that although Sweden has experienced fewer deaths than many European nations, it has suffered more than its Nordic neighbors, Finland and Norway.

    This is true, but it needs to be contextualized.

    Norway and Finland have some of the lowest COVID-19 death rates in the world, with 54 deaths per one million citizens and 66 per million respectively. This is well below the median in Europe (240 per million) and Sweden’s rate (605 per million).

    What these critics fail to realize is that both Finland and Norway have had less restrictive policies than Sweden for the bulk of the pandemic—not more lockdowns.

    Norway’s lockdown stringency has been less than 40 since early June, and fell all the way to 28.7 in September and October. Finland’s lockdown stringency followed a similar pattern, floating around the mid to low 30s for most of the second half of the year, before creeping back up to 41 around Halloween.

    When people compare Sweden unfavorably to Finland and Norway to dismiss its laissez-faire policy, they are drawing the opposite conclusion from what the data point really reveals. Yes, Finland and Norway have lower deaths than Sweden—but they have actually been more laissez-faire than their neighbor for the majority of the pandemic.

    Since June, Finland and Norway have had less restrictive government policies than Sweden, and both nations have endured the coronavirus remarkably well. They have been among the freest nations in the world since early June, and COVID-19 deaths have been miniscule.


    Neither country even has a mask mandate, though both implemented mask recommendations in August. In Norway, private gatherings in public places are still permitted, though the capacity was recently reduced to 50 people (down from 200).

    In Finland, people say daily life hasn’t changed very much.

    “My daily life actually hasn’t been affected too much,” healthcare assistant Gegi Aydin told one local news station.

    The lighter touch approach can be seen in their economies, as well. In the second quarter of 2020, Norway and Finland saw their economies contract by 6.3 percent and 6.4 percent respectively. That’s about half the 11.8 percent drop of the European Union, and well below that experienced by Spain (-18.5%) and the United Kingdom (-19.1%). It’s even lower than that of Sweden, which saw a decline of 8.6 percent.

    Despite their low lockdown stringency, Norway and Finland are among the only places in Europe you’ll find considered safe for travel.

    As I’ve pointed out before, people aren’t attacking the results of Sweden’s policies. They are attacking the nature of its policies. Of course, there are many nations that have been hit much harder than Sweden. But these nations are ignored because they don’t threaten the narrative that government lockdowns work, and that millions more would have died without them.


    Norway and Finland show that the coronavirus doesn’t care about government policy. Their numbers have remained low with moderately strict lockdowns and with laissez-faire policies.

    With the coronavirus resurging around the world, there is talk of implementing another round of crippling lockdowns. World leaders are facing immense pressure to “do something.”

    This would be a mistake. Lockdowns come with severe and deadly unintended consequences. Moreover, they have proven utterly ineffective at taming the virus—which is why the World Health Organization is now advising against their use.

    The reality is, humans are unwilling to accept how powerless they are to stop this virus. They are unwilling to admit they cannot control it.

    Decades ago, in his Nobel Prize acceptance speech, the economist F.A. Hayek warned of the dangers of such hubris. If man continued to live in ignorance of the limits of his knowledge, it would breed a “fatal striving to control society – a striving which makes him not only a tyrant over his fellows, but which may well make him the destroyer of a civilization…”

    It’s a lesson that has never been more important. We’ll soon know if it's one we’re finally prepared to learn.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



  2. Remove this section of ads by registering.
  3. #2
    The coronavirus is back in force.
    Worth noting the date on that article (Friday, November 13, 2020), especially considering the opening line.
    "Foreign aid is taking money from the poor people of a rich country, and giving it to the rich people of a poor country." - Ron Paul
    "Beware the Military-Industrial-Financial-Pharma-Corporate-Internet-Media-Government Complex." - B4L update of General Dwight D. Eisenhower
    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

    Proponent of real science.
    The views and opinions expressed here are solely my own, and do not represent this forum or any other entities or persons.

  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Worth noting the date on that article (Friday, November 13, 2020), especially considering the opening line.
    Okay. Thanks for the heads up. But doesn't it seem to be "back in force" every few months or so? The current head of the CDC was on CNN today predicting COVID "doom."
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  5. #4
    Today dip$#@! biden urging states not to unmask or open . Good God . More welfare and taxes , the dem solution to everything .
    Do something Danke

  6. #5
    According to the CDC 's own numbers 65 percent of the population have been vaccinated or have anti bodies yet today they say you'll all be dead tomorrow due to virus surge . Why any american would listen to any dumb $#@! like biden or the CDC is beyond me . Whatever they say if you did the opposite your at a 50 percent or better chance of doing better. While that mis direction is going Schumer is working on two more bills for three more trillion .
    Last edited by oyarde; 03-29-2021 at 03:54 PM.
    Do something Danke

  7. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Today dip$#@! biden urging states not to unmask or open . Good God . More welfare and taxes , the dem solution to everything .
    Interesting post.

    So, to be clear, you hold this against Biden?

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Interesting post.

    So, to be clear, you hold this against Biden?
    he should not be discouraging the economy , he has schumer working on two bills for three more trillion in debt for green energy and infrastructure right now .According to the CDC you should be expired from plague now.
    Last edited by oyarde; 03-30-2021 at 08:56 AM.
    Do something Danke

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    he should not be discouraging the economy , he has schumer working on two bills for three more trillion in debt for green energy and infrastructure right now .According to the CDC you should be expired from plague now.
    I totally agree. I just thought it was interesting that now that Biden's the president you all of a sudden start seeing it this way.



  10. Remove this section of ads by registering.


Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 01-26-2021, 01:11 PM
  2. Replies: 1
    Last Post: 05-15-2018, 01:28 AM
  3. Dem Congressman: ‘We’ve Proved That Communism Works’
    By CaseyJones in forum U.S. Political News
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 05-21-2014, 10:45 AM
  4. Are Norway and Sweden the exception?
    By freshjiva in forum U.S. Political News
    Replies: 31
    Last Post: 05-29-2010, 06:04 PM
  5. Socialism is successful in Sweden, Norway and Denmark? Why?
    By ClayTrainor in forum Economy & Markets
    Replies: 110
    Last Post: 01-29-2009, 09:07 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •