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  1. #31
    Ah. 10 day waiting periods are in the new gun control bills. Oh, if only.....


    It is unclear exactly when the alleged murder weapon was purchased, but an employee at Big Woods Goods in Holly Springs told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that Long bought a gun on Tuesday before the shooting rampage.
    https://www.npr.org/2021/03/17/97814...as-he-targeted



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I wonder if he caught some incurrable STD and blamed it on the women from the spas.
    I'm sure masks were required.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Another bitter Incel.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    A little of all three.

    I can see how a normal young man could have an impossible time just trying to get laid, between the queeers, weirdosexuals, shrieking feminists, and overly sexualized hookers.
    Mmmmm.....hookers only require payment. Possible he went to these spas expecting "happy endings" and instead found out they were actually massage parlors, that just gave massages, but in Atlanta, from what I hear, it's easy to find actual hookers. (Not legal like in Nevada of course). And while there is some risk of getting caught up in a vice sting operation, even that's much less than getting caught up in a murder rap. I'm betting he caught something like HIV and was pissed. Either that or his girl found out he was frequenting massage parlors and dumped him over it. Somehow he felt that the massage parlors ruined his life and he wanted revenge. And no, I don't buy the "He was mad at Asians over COVID-19" claptrap.

    Edit: Reading further into what @jct74 posted, I see that the suspect told police he wanted to eliminate his "temptation." (Of course since he also had a porn adiction one wonders if he shot up his computer and cell phone too.) Is someone who can get sex if he pays for it considered an "incel?" Yes paying for sex is illegal, but it sounds like the reason he stopped was because he felt guilty for paying for it. I wonder if he got diagnosed as a sex addict as a part of a "John school." (Where courts send men who have been busted in prostitution sting operations.) I hate to sound like @dannno, but I wonder if this crime would have happened but for the criminalization of prostitution? Man ripped by guilt over paying for sex attacks the source of the guilt. To the extent the guilt was based on the criminality of what he was doing.....?
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    claptrap.

  7. #35
    Propaganda comin' hot and heavy now.

    Guy sitting outside VP house with........wait for it.......an AR, 30 round mags and unregistered ammo. Apprehended due to our wonderful intrepid Fusion center intel-sharing about homegrown terrorism.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/17/polit...est/index.html


    carrying a rifle or shotgun outside of a business
    Finally some truth in reporting lol^^^^
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  8. #36
    Narrative continues to evolve, controversial site "buzzfeed" alongwith CNN appear to be leading with this angle IN MSM coverage:

    The Cop Who Said The Spa Shooter Had A "Bad Day" Previously Posted A Racist Shirt Blaming China For The Pandemic

    Capt. Jay Baker shared a photo of a T-shirt he got on Facebook, saying that the coronavirus was imported from "CHY-NA."

    Stephanie K. Baer
    March 17, 2021, at 6:13 p.m. ET



    Megan Varner / Getty Images Cherokee Sheriff's Capt. Jay Baker

    The Georgia sheriff's official who said the man accused of killing six Asian women and two others in shootings at spas in the Atlanta area had "a bad day" previously shared a photo of racist T-shirts on social media.

    In a Facebook post from April 2020, Cherokee County Sheriff's Capt. Jay Baker shared an image of T-shirts based off the Corona beer label that said "Covid 19 IMPORTED VIRUS FROM CHY-NA."
    "Love my shirt," Baker wrote. "Get yours while they last.'"





    Baker did not immediately respond to a request for comment, but after BuzzFeed News asked about the shirt, the public Facebook post became unavailable.
    At their press conference about the shootings on Wednesday, police said it was too early to determine if the suspect was motivated by race, but added that the suspect told officials he had sex addiction issues and targeted the businesses because he wanted to “take out that temptation.”

    As director of communications and community relations at the sheriff's office, Baker was among the law enforcement speakers who gave an update on the investigation.
    Speaking to reporters about the suspect's explanation for the shootings, which he allegedly admitted to, Baker said it was "a really bad day" for the shooter.
    His comments and officials' decision to focus on the suspect's narrative amid a spate of increased hate incidents against Asian Americans have been widely criticized.

    Kimberlé Crenshaw @sandylocks
    I was speechless after watching that press conference. Thanks @divafeminist for laying out what was so bone-chilling about what was named (his "bad day") and what was not named-the misogynistic dimensions of anti-Asian racism. To reckon, we have to denounce every bit of it. https://t.co/lJZcQHa7xN
    08:01 PM - 17 Mar 2021
    Hurricane Helms @ShaneHelmsCom
    Dude made a conscious decision to go murder a bunch of people, mostly Asian Americans. That’s not a “bad day.” Locking my keys in my car is a bad day. This $#@! is a Terrorist! Bottom line. https://t.co/hbIyYN1xji
    buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/spa-shooter-bad-day-racist-facebook

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Narrative continues to evolve, controversial site "buzzfeed" alongwith CNN appear to be leading with this angle IN MSM coverage:



    buzzfeednews.com/article/skbaer/spa-shooter-bad-day-racist-facebook
    It just so happens that the US House has a committee hearing scheduled for tomorrow to address anti-asian hate "incidents". Not hate crimes but rather "incidents". Very convenient that this isn't being classified as a hate crime but was rather "incidental" to race but not actually a crime committed because of race and gives the committee a perfect scenario to talk about. Total coincidence! Expected to be discussed is the lack of "tools" to address anything that isn't a crime and otherwise falls under constitutional freedom of speech. "Incidents"
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  10. #38
    Non-Atlanta news broadcast tonight:

    “Investigators are trying to determine a motive here. Six of the victims were Asian and seven were women, authorities say the 21 year old told them he had a sex addiction and was trying to eliminate temptation though there is no evidence the women targeted here were sex workers. Investigators have not ruled out race as a motive.”

    Wink, wink, it’s really all about race, no matter what anyone says...
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  11. #39
    The wisdom of Swordy:

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  12. #40
    It wasnt hard to use reasoning to know Jussie Smollet story was bs the first day it broke, I knew they would spin this for Asian hate narrative.

    The reality is he shot up massage parlors (aka prostitution houses), it doesn't take a genius to take a first guess that this was sex/envy/jealously related and thats exactly what it turned out to be. He had a sex addiction and blamed them when he should've blamed himself.

    But is it any surprise that our resident RPF troll @enhanced_deficit is towing the democrat party line? Jen Psaki and the democrats are all spinning this as racial. E_D poses intentional questions to pretend to be neutral.
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    @Ehanced_Deficit's real agenda on RPF =troll:

    Who spends this much time copy/pasting the same recycled links, photos/talking points.

    7 yrs/25k posts later RPF'ers still respond to this troll



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  14. #41
    White people hating blacks was getting old, media had to change things up a bit. Asians are the new black.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Non-Atlanta news broadcast tonight:

    “Investigators are trying to determine a motive here. Six of the victims were Asian and seven were women, authorities say the 21 year old told them he had a sex addiction and was trying to eliminate temptation though there is no evidence the women targeted here were sex workers. Investigators have not ruled out race as a motive.”

    Wink, wink, it’s really all about race, no matter what anyone says...
    I've always wondered about the obsession with trying to find the motivation behind a crazy person's actions. Is it not enough to say that this person had a mental breakdown and his crazy brain found some sort of crazy reasoning for what he did? Somehow, it's always got to be a societal problem. The fact that 99.9999% of the population do NOT do these things should tell them it isn't society's fault.

    I mean, crazy people gonna crazy. That's what they do.
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  16. #43
    Nobody has said this yet, so I'll say it. Is there a reason why most of these "massage parlors" that are undercover bordellos are Asian? This is a stereotype that seems rooted in reality. It's just like I expect a nail salon to be Asian. And yes, the overwhelming majority of prostitutes/escorts are NOT Asian. I did a simple search on Google for "massage parlor bust." There were the top three videos.







    If I hear that a meth lab exploded I'm expecting to see a white person. If I hear a crack house got busted I'm expecting to see a black person. If I hear a school shooting, I'm expecting a white male. If I hear there was a drive by shooting, I'm expecting to see a black male. If I hear a massage parlor got raided for prostitution.....I'm expecting to see Asian women. Color me crazy.

    So....crazy guy has a hard on for massage parlor prostitutes? He wants to take out his main temptation? And it's a shocker that most of his victims are Asian women? That's what nobody is saying. But I said it. If he just hated Asians over the "kung flu" you'd think he would find a way to kill some Asian men.
    Last edited by jmdrake; 03-19-2021 at 05:17 AM.
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  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I've always wondered about the obsession with trying to find the motivation behind a crazy person's actions. Is it not enough to say that this person had a mental breakdown and his crazy brain found some sort of crazy reasoning for what he did? Somehow, it's always got to be a societal problem. The fact that 99.9999% of the population do NOT do these things should tell them it isn't society's fault.

    I mean, crazy people gonna crazy. That's what they do.
    Because if the only motive is that the person is crazy....they don't get prosecuted. The white guy that killed three blacks and one hispanic in Nashville at a Waffle House a few years ago was never prosecuted because it was determined that he had schizophrenia. If he had any other motive, robbery, racism, rage, he would have been put on death row. That said, I don't think sex addiction will be enough to spare this particular killer's life. If that were the case then most serial rapists would use the sex addiction defense.

    Here is something else to consider from a societal point of view. Assuming the killer is telling the truth about his motives, and I have no reason to think otherwise, what led him to such a state of self loathing over frequenting prostitutes? Is it the fact that prostitution is illegal? The movie "The Silence Of The Lambs" was propaganda about the idea that society blocking someone with gender dysphoria getting a sex change might lead that person to become a serial killer. But...in this case...it seems that the facts support the idea that the prohibition of the world's oldest profession led to mass murder. Someone explain to me why I'm wrong here.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Here is something else to consider from a societal point of view. Assuming the killer is telling the truth about his motives, and I have no reason to think otherwise, what led him to such a state of self loathing over frequenting prostitutes? Is it the fact that prostitution is illegal? The movie "The Silence Of The Lambs" was propaganda about the idea that society blocking someone with gender dysphoria getting a sex change might lead that person to become a serial killer. But...in this case...it seems that the facts support the idea that the prohibition of the world's oldest profession led to mass murder. Someone explain to me why I'm wrong here.
    I'd be willing to wager that if prostitution wasn't his motive, than he would have found something else. I don't think it starts with the "justification" for these guys. I think they're messed up and will glom onto whatever happens to be rattling around in their brains at the time. In other words, they have a short-circuit in their wiring and they'll find something in the outside world to fixate upon. There's really no sense for sane people to try to remove all "justifications" that could arise in the minds of crazies - you'll never be able to cleanse the world of all possible triggers.

    I recognize this is the constrained view of the world, but I think it's valid in the case of mass murderers.
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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    But...in this case...it seems that the facts support the idea that the prohibition of the world's oldest profession led to mass murder. Someone explain to me why I'm wrong here.
    My take on his reasoning seems to lead me to the opposing idea: that the readily available amount of "cheap" sex and porn facilitated these addictions that he internally loathed.

    Think A.J. Maggot from the film "The Dirty Dozen"

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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    My take on his reasoning seems to lead me to the opposing idea: that the readily available amount of "cheap" sex and porn facilitated these addictions that he internally loathed.

    Think A.J. Maggot from the film "The Dirty Dozen"

    But is it really though? Remember the "Pepe Le Pew" approach just got "cancelled" by being called "rape culture." Yeah woman flaunt WAP but then get offended when the wrong guy actually asks for it. I saw a "Imagine a day without men" meme where one woman said "I could post a picture of myself in a bikini" or "Dance around all day naked" or "wear a mini skirt." So...apparently women want to show off their body...but without men. And not all of these women a lesbians.

    https://www.mamamia.com.au/a-world-without-men/

    We live in simultaneously the most sexually expessive and repressed society in history. Two men can get married. Two women can get married. A man can be married and have two girlfriends. But let that same man marry two wives? Thow him in a rape cage! It's legal for any group of consenting adults to perform sex acts on a web cam and get paid for it. But let one of the participants pay for the experience? That's a crime. Please explain that logic to me.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I'd be willing to wager that if prostitution wasn't his motive, than he would have found something else. I don't think it starts with the "justification" for these guys. I think they're messed up and will glom onto whatever happens to be rattling around in their brains at the time. In other words, they have a short-circuit in their wiring and they'll find something in the outside world to fixate upon. There's really no sense for sane people to try to remove all "justifications" that could arise in the minds of crazies - you'll never be able to cleanse the world of all possible triggers.

    I recognize this is the constrained view of the world, but I think it's valid in the case of mass murderers.
    So all mass murderers are the guy that shot up the Nashville Waffle House and will never stand trial for his crimes because he is crazy? Maybe. But I don't think so.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    So all mass murderers are the guy that shot up the Nashville Waffle House and will never stand trial for his crimes because he is crazy? Maybe. But I don't think so.
    Well, no. That's not what I'm saying at all. ??? I'm saying that the crime is the crime and the criminal is the criminal. Whatever reasons the criminal uses for committing the crime are not really relevant to a societal problem. They may or may not be used in the conviction and sentencing of the individual, but it doesn't follow that there must be a problem with society. Society didn't make him do this - he did. Whether he's flat-out crazy or just made crazy decisions on that day will be determined during his trial. But the criminal committed the crime and whatever reasoning he used to do it was unique to him. And if his mind made that poor reasoning, we shouldn't be jumping to the conclusion that there's a societal problem. I'm mean, pretty much everyone else didn't make his decisions.

    Whether he chose racism, sex, bullying, ideology, religion, or whatever else to make his decision shouldn't be an indictment of a greater societal issue that needs to be corrected.
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  24. #50
    I think he used the sex addiction explanation so that people wouldn't assume that he's a virgin.
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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I've always wondered about the obsession with trying to find the motivation behind a crazy person's actions. Is it not enough to say that this person had a mental breakdown and his crazy brain found some sort of crazy reasoning for what he did? Somehow, it's always got to be a societal problem. The fact that 99.9999% of the population do NOT do these things should tell them it isn't society's fault.

    I mean, crazy people gonna crazy. That's what they do.
    Propaganda is propaganda. No need for truth or reason.

    It’s either the fault of the evil white man and his systemic oppression, or the Orange Man. The propagandists are using both.
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  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    ... But...in this case...it seems that the facts support the idea that the prohibition of the world's oldest profession led to mass murder. Someone explain to me why I'm wrong here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    My take on his reasoning seems to lead me to the opposing idea: that the readily available amount of "cheap" sex and porn facilitated these addictions that he internally loathed.
    ...
    I’m with AF on this. Obviously these services were out in the open and highly available.

    The contradictions and failures in the law are a separate issue.
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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Nobody has said this yet, so I'll say it. Is there a reason why most of these "massage parlors" that are undercover bordellos are Asian? This is a stereotype that seems rooted in reality. It's just like I expect a nail salon to be Asian. And yes, the overwhelming majority of prostitutes/escorts are NOT Asian. I did a simple search on Google for "massage parlor bust." There were the top three videos.
    ...
    If I hear that a meth lab exploded I'm expecting to see a white person. If I hear a crack house got busted I'm expecting to see a black person. If I hear a school shooting, I'm expecting a white male. If I hear there was a drive by shooting, I'm expecting to see a black male. If I hear a massage parlor got raided for prostitution.....I'm expecting to see Asian women. Color me crazy.

    So....crazy guy has a hard on for massage parlor prostitutes? He wants to take out his main temptation? And it's a shocker that most of his victims are Asian women? That's what nobody is saying. But I said it. If he just hated Asians over the "kung flu" you'd think he would find a way to kill some Asian men.
    Stereotypes and gross generalizations exist for a reason. They usually reflect real world observation.

    I had the same thought while watching an Asian woman on TV telling us how the fact that mostly Asian women were shot proves that the shooting was racially motivated. If someone wanted to go out and murder prostitutes, they would have to go to fixed locations like these massage parlors, which happen to all be Asian. There are plenty of other prostitutes, but a street walker would probably be much harder to find than these parlors.
    Last edited by Brian4Liberty; 03-19-2021 at 11:06 AM.
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  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I’m with AF on this. Obviously these services were out in the open and highly available.

    The contradictions and failures in the law are a separate issue.
    Highly available is not the same as available without risk. If you have not been involved with the legal side of prostitution, either as a defense lawyer or a defendant, there is a piece of the puzzle you're missing. The men who get arrested are forced to go to "John school" to get out of having to spend time in jail where they are told over and over again how horrible they are for paying for sex. The perp in this case was identified as a "sex addict" and his roomate said he attended supporting meetings. Think 12 step "alchoholics anonymous" type groups. Step 1? "Admitting powerlessness over the addiction." So, dude gets drilled in his head over and over again that not only is he horrible for having gone to prostitutes, but also that he can't help his behavior. He is supposed to be paranoid about himself, only the reaction to his self induced paranoia isn't supposed to be "go and destroy your temptation" but "go call up your support group to get one of them to talk you out of what it is you really really want to do." I agree with @CaptUSA that he's got a wire loose up there somewhere. I agree with @Anti Federalist that the hypersexualization of society in general probably was a problem for this guy. But I happen to think that the criminalization and demonization of his easiest outlet for his urges probably didn't help matters either.
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    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Stereotypes and gross generalizations exist for a reason. They usually reflect real world observation.

    I had the same thought while watching an Asian woman on TV telling us how the fact that mostly Asian women were shot proves that the shooting was racially motivated. If someone wanted to go out and murder prostitutes, they would have to go to fixed locations like these massage parlors, which happen to all be Asian. There are plenty of other prostitutes, but a street walker would probably be much harder to find than these parlors.
    Exactly! And it's not so much an issue of harder to find (even though Backpage.com got shut down, a hundred other sites like it sprung up in its place), but he would have only been able to find one at a time. It's like someone who wants to kill a lot of children goes to a school or a playground where to find a large number of victims at one place.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Highly available is not the same as available without risk. If you have not been involved with the legal side of prostitution, either as a defense lawyer or a defendant, there is a piece of the puzzle you're missing. The men who get arrested are forced to go to "John school" to get out of having to spend time in jail where they are told over and over again how horrible they are for paying for sex. The perp in this case was identified as a "sex addict" and his roomate said he attended supporting meetings. Think 12 step "alchoholics anonymous" type groups. Step 1? "Admitting powerlessness over the addiction." So, dude gets drilled in his head over and over again that not only is he horrible for having gone to prostitutes, but also that he can't help his behavior. He is supposed to be paranoid about himself, only the reaction to his self induced paranoia isn't supposed to be "go and destroy your temptation" but "go call up your support group to get one of them to talk you out of what it is you really really want to do." I agree with @CaptUSA that he's got a wire loose up there somewhere. I agree with @Anti Federalist that the hypersexualization of society in general probably was a problem for this guy. But I happen to think that the criminalization and demonization of his easiest outlet for his urges probably didn't help matters either.
    Good point.

    No, I was not aware of all of the details or “John school”. More details are coming out about this guy’s situation and past, and it proves the sex addiction motivation (as twisted and mental as that is as an excuse for mass murder).
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  32. #57
    No matter what anybody thinks of this story...this is funny.

    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  33. #58
    And at the end of the day, no matter how you cut it, there is more "sex" available everywhere you turn, but it is cheap, tawdry and hard.

    Sex, and every perversion of it, are on open display everywhere, readily available...

    And yet we're all having less of it, and what we do have, is less and less satisfactory and fulfilling.
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  34. #59
    Simple truth in this busted world..Sexual Repression is the root of Sexual Deviation.

    and sex is something that is shrouded in dishonesty.
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  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    And at the end of the day, no matter how you cut it, there is more "sex" available everywhere you turn, but it is cheap, tawdry and hard.

    Sex, and every perversion of it, are on open display everywhere, readily available...

    And yet we're all having less of it, and what we do have, is less and less satisfactory and fulfilling.
    Yep! I agree 100%. One can only imagine what will happen to our society when the sexbots come online. (No pun intended).
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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