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    Exclamation 'He Is Lying. People Are Dying': Calls for Texas Governor to Resign

    First this stunning tweet from NYDN criticizing TX political leaders:

    https://twitter.com/BFriedmanDC/stat...93012225650688




    and now this from liberal wing:


    Wednesday, February 17, 2021

    'He Is Lying. People Are Dying': Calls for Texas Governor to Resign as He Blames Power Outages on Wind and Solar

    "Five million Texans are without power tonight and temperatures are below freezing. People will most certainly die tonight because of it. But Gov. Abbott had time to go on Sean Hannity to blame the Green New Deal."

    Jake Johnson, staff writer

    Karla Perez and Esperanza Gonzalez warm up by a barbecue grill during a power outage caused by the winter storm on February 16, 2021 in Houston, Texas. (Photo: Go Nakamura/Getty Images)

    As millions of Texans struggled desperately to keep warm amid power outages stemming from the devastating winter storm sweeping the nation, the state's Republican governor late Tuesday blamed solar and wind for the blackouts—despite the fact that Texas relies overwhelmingly on fossil fuels—and claimed the crisis shows that the Green New Deal would be a "deadly deal" for the United States.

    "Texas is blessed with multiple sources of energy, such natural gas and oil and nuclear, as well as solar and wind," Gov. Greg Abbott said in an appearance on "Hannity" Tuesday night. "Our wind and our solar got shut down, and they were collectively more than 10% of our power grid. And that thrust Texas into a situation where it was lacking power in a statewide basis."

    Abbott was far from the first Republican to deploy such blatantly false talking points in response to the ongoing crisis in Texas, which has left at least 10 people dead. But the governor's decision to appear on Fox News and attack a policy that has not even been implemented as Texans resorted to burning their belongings to keep their children warm was viewed as yet another example of his failed leadership.
    "Five million Texans are without power tonight and temperatures are below freezing. People will most certainly die tonight because of it," said Sawyer Hackett, senior adviser to Julián Castro. "But Gov. Abbott had time to go on Sean Hannity to blame the Green New Deal."

    Texas Gov. Abbott blames solar and wind for the blackouts in his state and says "this shows how the Green New Deal would be a deadly deal for the United States of America" pic.twitter.com/YfVwa3YRZQ
    — Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) February 17, 2021

    Citing an official with the state's Electric Reliability Council (ERCOT), The Texas Tribune reported that as of Tuesday afternoon "16 gigawatts of renewable energy generation, mostly wind generation, was offline. Nearly double that, 30 gigawatts, had been lost from thermal sources, which includes gas, coal and nuclear energy."
    "Texas is a gas state," Michael Webber, an energy resources professor at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Tribune. "Gas is failing in the most spectacular fashion right now."

    But that hasn't stopped Texas Republicans like Abbott and Rep. Dan Crenshaw from attempting to blame frozen wind turbines for outages that could continue for days, endangering lives and coronavirus vaccines.
    In response to Abbott's "Hannity" interview, Texas voting rights advocate Charlie Bonner tweeted, "He is lying. People are dying, and he is on Fox News lying to you. We are living in fear and Greg Abbott is playing politics with our lives."
    commondreams.org/news/2021/02/17/he-lying-people-are-dying-calls-texas-governor-resign-he-blames-power-outages-wind



    UЅ Рrеѕіdеnt Віdеn dесlаrеѕ ѕtаtе оf еmеrgеnсу іn Техаѕ

    Моndау, Fеbruаrу 15, 2021. 8:27 рm СЅТ.
    Rеutеrѕ rероrtѕ thаt Рrеѕіdеnt Јое Віdеn dесlаrеd а ѕtаtе оf еmеrgеnсу іn Техаѕ tоdау, аftеr а rаrе dеер frееzе іn thе ѕоuthеrn Unіtеd Ѕtаtеѕ аnd thе nоrthеrnmоѕt раrt оf Мехісо hаѕ саuѕеd mајоr blасkоutѕ lеаvіng mіllіоnѕ wіthоut роwеr.

    Texas’ power outages compared to Hurricane Harvey
    Samantha Garza
    Updated: Feb 16, 2021 / 06:43 AM CST
    Harlingen, Texas (KVEO) – As thousands of families in the Rio Grande Valley lost power due to the winter storm, experts are comparing the damage to Hurricane Harvey.
    Reports of power outages in the Rio Grande Valley started at 9:30 p.m. Sunday night, and have continued through Monday.


    If this is true comparison, magnitude of such a an event may guide TX governor/legislature to temporarily suspend any restrictions on businesses/contractors like below if there is any chance that such First Amendment restrictions could be slowing down recovery efforts. All hands need to be on the deck.
    Court in AK just did that but TX courts may not be able to act in timely fashion under current conditions even if they wanted to.

    To Get Hurricane Rebuilding Contracts, Texas Contractors Must Pledge Not to Boycott Israel



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  3. #2
    Abbott's not wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Ryan
    In Washington you can see them everywhere: the Parasites and baby Stalins sucking the life out of a once-great nation.

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    Texas doesnt have power because of make believe energy sources like wind . If Texas was using fuel oil , natural gas , propane and coal fired electric like advanced society instead they would have power .
    Do something Danke

  5. #4

    God Judges Liars

    I just love it when God, in His providence, proves the irrationality and falsehoods of the devices of men by sending forces of nature to bring their beliefs to nothing. God is showing how "green energy" is unsustainable when it comes to extreme winter conditions, which, themselves, disprove the notion of man-made global warming.
    "Diverse weights are an abomination unto the LORD, and a false balance is not good." - Proverbs 20:23

    "Lowering interest rates punishes people for saving, thus encouraging consumers and businesses to spend every penny they make...The Federal Reserve’s inflationary policies harm the average American by eroding the dollar’s purchasing power." - Dr. Ron Paul

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    Gas, in all it's forms, is problematic when temps drop extremely cold.

    Butane, for instance, ceases to vaporize at around 30 degrees F.

    Butane is a key component of LPG.

    Coal does not have these issues.
    We must picture Hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment. - C. S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Gas, in all it's forms, is problematic when temps drop extremely cold.

    Butane, for instance, ceases to vaporize at around 30 degrees F.

    Butane is a key component of LPG.

    Coal does not have these issues.
    Coal is beautiful. You can bring it in frozen and wet and it will burn clean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theocrat View Post
    I just love it when God, in His providence, proves the irrationality and falsehoods of the devices of men by sending forces of nature to bring their beliefs to nothing. God is showing how "green energy" is unsustainable when it comes to extreme winter conditions, which, themselves, disprove the notion of man-made global warming.
    EM.
    On the surface at least that would seem against divine prophecies; Pastor John Hagee of San Antonio Texas based world reknowned CUFI (Christians United For Israel) organization had claimed that TX was the 'most pro-Israel state' in the US.
    (although I'm somewhat skeptical of 'cursed vs blessed' narratives in everyday situations unless divine messaging connection and rationale is super clear).




    Office of the Texas Governor
    Anti-Israel Policies Are Anti-Texas Policies | Office of the Texas Governor | Greg Abbott

    Texas’ power outages compared to Hurricane Harvey
    Samantha Garza
    Feb 16,2021

    To Get Hurricane Rebuilding Contracts, Texas Contractors Must Pledge Not to Boycott Israel

    '2 nights of terror' - San Antonio Housing Authority residents weather cold, dark
    San Antonio Express-News
    Feb. 17, 2021


    Related

    Texas Pastor Hagee Says Hurricane Katrina Struck New Orleans Because It Was ‘Planning A Sinful’ ‘Homosexual Rally’
    archive.thinkprogress.org/hagee-says-hurricane-katrina-struck-new-orleans-because-it-was-planning-a-sinful-homosexual-rally-55b392a04322/

    Israeli Rabbi says hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for US policy towards Israeli settlemets
    The Associated Press
    Sep 7, 2005
    Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, a former chief rabbi and the spiritual leader of the ultra-Orthodox Shas movement, said on Wednesday that Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for U.S. President George W. Bush's support for Israel's Gaza pullout.
    "It was God's retribution. God does not shortchange anyone," Yosef said during his weekly sermon on Tuesday. His comments were broadcast on Channel 10 TV on Wednesday.
    Yosef also said recent natural disasters were the result of a lack of Torah study and that Katrina's victims suffered "because they have no God," singling out black people.
    "He (Bush) perpetrated the expulsion (of Jews from Gaza). Now everyone is mad at him. This is his punishment for what he did to Gush Katif, and everyone else who did as he told them, their time will come, too," Yosef said.

    Incidentally, two senior Trump White House advisors recently got blessings from his son.. and in this case apple didn't fall far from the tree it seems:

    Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner 'blessed' by top Israeli rabbi who compared black people to 'monkeys'
    independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-israel-jewish-rabbi-yitzhak-yosef-racist-us-embassy-jerusalem-latest-a8350536.html


    Where are the condemnations of Hurricane Harvey as ‘God’s punishment’?

    Rescue boats fill a flooded street at flood victims are evacuated (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)

    By Kimberly Winston | Aug. 30, 2017
    ...
    Yet as (Hurricane) Harvey continues to turn its Super Soakers on Houston, those quick to see God’s angry handiwork in earlier storms have so far focused their efforts on praising Houston’s first responders and citizen volunteers.
    “The ‘Cajun Navy’ is at it again!,” Graham shared on Facebook, referring to a band of Louisiana boaters involved in the rescue effort. “Out there with their boats rescuing people stranded by #HurricaneHarvey floodwaters. I thank God for people willing to step up and help others — real Good Samaritans!”
    And Focus on the Family founder James Dobson, who once blamed the Sandy Hook school shooting on America’s acceptance of gay marriage and abortion, commended “the heroic efforts of emergency personnel and the National Guard as they work to rescue and comfort those stranded and displaced by the flooding.”
    sltrib.com/religion/global/2017/08/30/where-are-the-condemnations-of-harvey-as-gods-punishment/

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    Quote Originally Posted by fedupinmo View Post
    Abbott's not wrong.
    He may have just tried to obfuscate the primary causes by selectively highlighting secondary or tertiary causes only, so just being a politician. He appears to be wrong on unrelated other policies though as he comes across as a poodle of globalist neocons lobbies.

    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Texas doesnt have power because of make believe energy sources like wind . If Texas was using fuel oil , natural gas , propane and coal fired electric like advanced society instead they would have power .
    H/T Peace Piper:

    "Wind shutdowns accounted for 3.6 to 4.5 gigawatts -- or less than 13% -- of the 30 to 35 gigawatts of total outages, according to Woodfin. "
    Bloomberg: Natural gas, coal and nuclear played bigger role in blackouts than frozen turbines



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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    He may have just tried to obfuscate the primary causes by selectively highlighting secondary or tertiary causes only, so just being a politician. He appears to be wrong on unrelated other policies though as he comes across as a poodle of globalist neocons lobbies.



    H/T Peace Piper:

    "Wind shutdowns accounted for 3.6 to 4.5 gigawatts -- or less than 13% -- of the 30 to 35 gigawatts of total outages, according to Woodfin. "
    Bloomberg: Natural gas, coal and nuclear played bigger role in blackouts than frozen turbines
    Thirteen percent is a lot enough to cause black outs . It is the future.
    Do something Danke

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    Foxnews and libs both seem to have turned on TX Sen. Ted Cruz after he allegedly took a flight to popular vacation spot Cancun MX while poor people in TX were suffering:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIfgUFQWw2E



    Credit should be given to all the Pastors and Rabbis who may be exercising great restraint and have not called Texas sub arctic temperatures tragedy "punishment from God" for xyz reason.
    On a side note, hypocrisy of Texas Pastor John Hagee is glaringly obvious, he had blamed misery and suffering brought to Louisiana residents by hurricane Katrina on LGBTQ rights parade but he also recently called Trump (who sold LGBTQ T-shirts on gay pride day and sanctiond foreign countries that did not allow gay rights parades) gift from God? Are GOP religious bases so foolish to have stood with leaders like this decade after decade?

    Texas CUFI Pastor Hagee Says Hurricane Katrina Struck New Orleans Because It Was ‘Planning A Sinful’ ‘Homosexual Rally’

    Israeli Rabbi says hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for US policy towards Israeli settlemets

    Where are the condemnations of Hurricane Harvey as ‘God’s punishment’?
    Aug. 30, 2017
    Objectively speaking and putting aside divine intervention theories of such Pastors and Rabbis, sub Arctic weather's connection to LGBTQ pride or CUFI celeberations in San Antonio TX would be non-existent compared to some weird and sudden climate change phenomenon.


    Quote Originally Posted by oyarde View Post
    Thirteen percent is a lot enough to cause black outs . It is the future.
    True that but 87% > 13%.
    Jimmy Kimmel claimed that Wind Mills proprotinally did better than gas and other energy sources after temps dropped but have not validated that claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    "Wind shutdowns accounted for 3.6 to 4.5 gigawatts -- or less than 13% -- of the 30 to 35 gigawatts of total outages, according to Woodfin. "

    Bloomberg: Natural gas, coal and nuclear played bigger role in blackouts than frozen turbines
    Loss of ten percent of grid supply when running at 100 percent capacity is enough to cause downstream cut outs and overloads of supply from all sources as the automated computerized system tries to save itself.

    Much has been made of the price controls at the distribution level and they have a valid point.

    I will place the blame on computer controls of critical systems that override or shut down based on "conservative" engineering profiles that are programmed into the operating system.

    Just like a "limp home" feature in a modern computerized car, maybe it's my choice and my decision to decide if I want to fry this son of a bitch in an attempt to get out of a jam, rather than be left limp and helpless because some nerd programmed an auto shut down at 220 degrees of coolant temp.
    We must picture Hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment. - C. S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Loss of ten percent of grid supply when running at 100 percent capacity is enough to cause downstream cut outs and overloads of supply from all sources as the automated computerized system tries to save itself.

    Much has been made of the price controls at the distribution level and they have a valid point.

    I will place the blame on computer controls of critical systems that override or shut down based on "conservative" engineering profiles that are programmed into the operating system.

    Just like a "limp home" feature in a modern computerized car, maybe it's my choice and my decision to decide if I want to fry this son of a bitch in an attempt to get out of a jam, rather than be left limp and helpless because some nerd programmed an auto shut down at 220 degrees of coolant temp.
    That may be true. But if 10% from one supply (wind) can cause cut outs, accumulative impact from multiple supply sources (10% from wind + 20% from frozen gas etc) can cause same thing at much bigger scale. Using these numbers for example only, don't know accurate %age contribution to the problem from each of the major supply sources.



    In other news:


    Biden declares major disaster in Texas, more than 14 million told to boil water after power failure

    Biden plans to visit Texas Next Week


    Sat, Feb 20 202112:09 PM EST

    Key Points

    • The declaration unlocks federal funding for individuals in Texas, grants for temporary housing and home repairs and low-cost loans to cover uninsured property losses.
    • Millions of Texans have struggled with power outages and more than half the state is experiencing disrupted water service.


    President Joe Biden has approved a major disaster declaration for Texas as the state grapples with widespread power outages and water shortages amid freezing winter conditions, the Federal Emergency Management Agency announced on Saturday.
    The action unlocks federal funding for individuals in Texas, grants for temporary housing and home repairs and low-cost loans to cover uninsured property losses.
    Millions of Texans have struggled with power outages and more than half the state is experiencing disrupted water service with boil-water notices in effect. More than 14 million people in Texas were told to boil their water as of Friday because parts of the state’s water supply might be contaminated.
    The declaration also provides funding for cost-sharing with state and local governments and some private nonprofit organizations for emergency protective measures and hazard mitigation measures. Dozens of counties will be able to access the aid.
    The federal government has already approved emergency declarations for Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana and has sent supplies like generators, blankets, water and meals to Texas last week.

    Biden plans to visit Texas as soon as next week to assess the federal response. The president said he’ll make a final decision to go after ensuring his presence wouldn’t impede recovery efforts. The administration has been working closely with Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on disaster response.

    cnbc.com/2021/02/20/biden-declares-major-disaster-in-texas-as-state-struggles-with-fallout-from-power-outages.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    That may be true. Uut if 10% from one supply (wind) can cause cut outs, accumulative impact from mutiple supply sources (10% from wind + 20% from frozen gas etc) can cause same thing at much bigger scale. Using these numbers for example only, don't know accurate %age contribution to the problem from each of the major supply sources.



    In other news:


    Biden declares major disaster in Texas, more than 14 million told to boil water after power failure

    Biden plans to visit Texas Next Week


    Sat, Feb 20 202112:09 PM EST

    Key Points

    • The declaration unlocks federal funding for individuals in Texas, grants for temporary housing and home repairs and low-cost loans to cover uninsured property losses.
    • Millions of Texans have struggled with power outages and more than half the state is experiencing disrupted water service.


    President Joe Biden has approved a major disaster declaration for Texas as the state grapples with widespread power outages and water shortages amid freezing winter conditions, the Federal Emergency Management Agency announced on Saturday.
    The action unlocks federal funding for individuals in Texas, grants for temporary housing and home repairs and low-cost loans to cover uninsured property losses.
    Millions of Texans have struggled with power outages and more than half the state is experiencing disrupted water service with boil-water notices in effect. More than 14 million people in Texas were told to boil their water as of Friday because parts of the state’s water supply might be contaminated.
    The declaration also provides funding for cost-sharing with state and local governments and some private nonprofit organizations for emergency protective measures and hazard mitigation measures. Dozens of counties will be able to access the aid.
    The federal government has already approved emergency declarations for Texas, Oklahoma and Louisiana and has sent supplies like generators, blankets, water and meals to Texas last week.

    Biden plans to visit Texas as soon as next week to assess the federal response. The president said he’ll make a final decision to go after ensuring his presence wouldn’t impede recovery efforts. The administration has been working closely with Republican Texas Gov. Greg Abbott on disaster response.

    cnbc.com/2021/02/20/biden-declares-major-disaster-in-texas-as-state-struggles-with-fallout-from-power-outages.html
    Biden must have gotten up from his beddy-bye time.

  16. #14
    I'm pretty sure Abbot will not be resigning.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    I'm pretty sure Abbot will not be resigning.
    Rumor has it he just 'attacked Free Markets' and banned electric companies from sending electric bills to their customers. There was also chatter that demand and supply driven prices need to be regulated in TX.

    Apparently looking to regulate free markets due to 'climate change'. One of Obama ex staffers even claimed that 'climate change won and unbridled free market lost in Texas'. He forgot to mention that TX was run by incompetent puppets of foreign-firster lobbies.
    Who knows, if TX politicians running the state had spent less time kissing up to foreign-firster lobbies and designing laws to gutt free speech of businesses /contractors and focussed all their time on putting their constituents first, planning quality might have not been as lacking.

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    Office of the Texas Governor
    Anti-Israel Policies Are Anti-Texas Policies | Office of the Texas Governor | Greg Abbott

    Texas’ power outages compared to Hurricane Harvey
    Samantha Garza
    Feb 16,2021

    To Get Hurricane Rebuilding Contracts, Texas Contractors Must Pledge Not to Boycott Israel
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It's Time For America To Cut Loose Our Useless So-Called "Allies"
    Let’s get one thing straight: the United States has no real allies. There are countries we dominate and control, more properly termed client states or even satellites. (True, given Israel’s and Saudi Arabia’s lock-stock-and-barrel ownership of the American political class, it seems rather that we are their clients, not the other way around...)

    ..
    Why do we need Israel, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and bunch of other Middle Eastern countries? We aren’t dependent on energy from the region as we arguably were when Jimmy Carter proclaimed a vital national interest there four decades ago. ‘Well then, Iran!’ But the Iranians can’t do anything to us. ‘Yes, but they hate Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc.’ Again, what’s that got to do with us?

    ...


    Christians' Israel Support Is Biblically Based

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...upport-israel/
    Mar 6, 2018



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