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    Glenn Greenwald Debunks the Capitol Riot

    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the...gerated-claims

    The False and Exaggerated Claims Still Being Spread About the Capitol Riot

    Insisting on factual accuracy does not make one an apologist for the protesters. False reporting is never justified, especially to inflate threat and fear levels.

    Glenn Greenwald

    What took place at the Capitol on January 6 was undoubtedly a politically motivated riot. As such, it should not be controversial to regard it as a dangerous episode. Any time force or violence is introduced into what ought to be the peaceful resolution of political conflicts, it should be lamented and condemned.


    But none of that justifies lying about what happened that day, especially by the news media. Condemning that riot does not allow, let alone require, echoing false claims in order to render the event more menacing and serious than it actually was. There is no circumstance or motive that justifies the dissemination of false claims by journalists. The more consequential the event, the less justified, and more harmful, serial journalistic falsehoods are.

    Yet this is exactly what has happened, and continues to happen, since that riot almost seven weeks ago. And anyone who tries to correct these falsehoods is instantly attacked with the cynical accusation that if you want only truthful reporting about what happened, then you’re trying to “minimize” what happened and are likely an apologist for if not a full-fledged supporter of the protesters themselves.


    One of the most significant of these falsehoods was the tale — endorsed over and over without any caveats by the media for more than a month — that Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick was murdered by the pro-Trump mob when they beat him to death with a fire extinguisher. That claim was first published by The New York Times on January 8 in an article headlined “Capitol Police Officer Dies From Injuries in Pro-Trump Rampage.” It cited “two [anonymous] law enforcement officials” to claim that Sicknick died “with the mob rampaging through the halls of Congress” and after he “was struck with a fire extinguisher.”


    A second New York Times article from later that day — bearing the more dramatic headline: “He Dreamed of Being a Police Officer, Then Was Killed by a Pro-Trump Mob” — elaborated on that story:



    After publication of these two articles, this horrifying story about a pro-Trump mob beating a police officer to death with a fire extinguisher was repeated over and over, by multiple journalists on television, in print, and on social media. It became arguably the single most-emphasized and known story of this event, and understandably so — it was a savage and barbaric act that resulted in the harrowing killing by a pro-Trump mob of a young Capitol police officer.


    It took on such importance for a clear reason: Sicknick’s death was the only example the media had of the pro-Trump mob deliberately killing anyone. In a January 11 article detailing the five people who died on the day of the Capitol protest, the New York Times again told the Sicknick story: “Law enforcement officials said he had been ‘physically engaging with protesters’ and was struck in the head with a fire extinguisher.”


    But none of the other four deaths were at the hands of the protesters: the only other person killed with deliberate violence was a pro-Trump protester, Ashil Babbitt, unarmed when shot in the neck by a police officer at close range. The other three deaths were all pro-Trump protesters: Kevin Greeson, who died of a heart attack outside the Capitol; Benjamin Philips, 50, “the founder of a pro-Trump website called Trumparoo,” who died of a stroke that day; and Rosanne Boyland, a fanatical Trump supporter whom the Times says was inadvertently “killed in a crush of fellow rioters during their attempt to fight through a police line.”


    This is why the fire extinguisher story became so vital to those intent on depicting these events in the most violent and menacing light possible. Without Sicknick having his skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher, there were no deaths that day that could be attributed to deliberate violence by pro-Trump protesters. Three weeks later, The Washington Post said dozens of officers (a total of 140) had various degrees of injuries, but none reported as life-threatening, and at least two police officers committed suicide after the riot. So Sicknick was the only person killed who was not a pro-Trump protester, and the only one deliberately killed by the mob itself.


    It is hard to overstate how pervasive this fire extinguisher story became. Over and over, major media outlets and mainstream journalists used this story to dramatize what happened:




    Television hosts gravely intoned when telling this story, manipulating viewers’ emotions by making them believe the mob had done something unspeakably barbaric:



    After the media bombarded Americans with this story for a full month without pause, it took center stage at Trump’s impeachment process. As former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy noted, the article of impeachment itself stated that “Trump supporters ‘injured and killed law enforcement personnel.’” The House impeachment managers explicitly claimed on page 28 of their pretrial memorandum that “the insurrectionists killed a Capitol Police officer by striking him in the head with a fire extinguisher.”


    Once the impeachment trial ended in an acquittal, President Joe Biden issued a statement and referenced this claim in the very first paragraph. Sicknick, said the President, lost “his life while protecting the Capitol from a violent, riotous mob on January 6, 2021.”


    The problem with this story is that it is false in all respects. From the start, there was almost no evidence to substantiate it. The only basis were the two original New York Times articles asserting that this happened based on the claim of anonymous law enforcement officials.


    Despite this alleged brutal murder taking place in one of the most surveilled buildings on the planet, filled that day with hundreds of cellphones taping the events, nobody saw video of it. No photographs depicted it. To this day, no autopsy report has been released. No details from any official source have been provided.


    Not only was there no reason to believe this happened from the start, the little that was known should have caused doubt. On the same day the Times published its two articles with the “fire extinguisher” story, ProPublica published one that should have raised serious doubts about it.


    The outlet interviewed Sicknick’s brother, who said that “Sicknick had texted [the family] Wednesday night to say that while he had been pepper-sprayed, he was in good spirits.” That obviously conflicted with the Times’ story that the mob “overpowered Sicknick” and “struck him in the head with a fire extinguisher,” after which, “with a bloody gash in his head, Mr. Sicknick was rushed to the hospital and placed on life support.”


    But no matter. The fire extinguisher story was now a matter of lore. Nobody could question it. And nobody did: until after a February 2 CNN article that asked why nobody has been arrested for what clearly was the most serious crime committed that day: the brutal murder of Officer Sicknick with a fire extinguisher. Though the headline gave no hint of this, the middle of the article provided evidence which essentially declared the original New York Times story false:


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    https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the...gerated-claims
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    Everyone needs to read this article start to finish!

    Greenwald does it again. Honesty is such a lonely word in media. And hardly ever heard.

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    Great Article.
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    If it bleeds it leads.

    Even if we have to make it up..

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    And then there was the "zip-tie guy"...

    In the days after the protest, numerous viral tweets pointed to a photograph of Eric Munchel with zip-ties. The photo was used continually to suggest that he took those zip-ties into the Capitol because of a premeditated plot to detain lawmakers and hold them hostage. Politico described Munchel as “the man who allegedly entered the Senate chamber during the Capitol riot while carrying a taser and zip-tie handcuffs.”

    The Washington Post used the images to refer to “chatters in far-right forums explicitly discussing how to storm the building, handcuff lawmakers with zip ties.” That the zip-tie photo of Munchel made the Capitol riot far more than a mere riot carried out by a band of disorganized misfits, but rather a nefarious and well-coordinated plot to kidnap members of Congress, became almost as widespread as the fire extinguisher story. Yet again, it was The New York Times that led the way in consecrating maximalist claims. “FBI Arrests Man Who Carried Zip Ties Into Capitol,” blared the paper’s headline on January 10, featuring the now-iconic photo of Munchel at the top.

    But on January 21, the “zip-tie man’s” own prosecutors admitted none of that was true. He did not take zip-ties with him from home or carry them into the Capitol. Instead, he found them on a table, and took them to prevent their use by the police...
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    I didn't read the article.

    But.

    Here's a question. Maybe it was addressed in the article.

    During that day, there were hundreds of thousands of pissed off MAGA patriots in Washington DC about a half an hour away. So, so many GOP voters pissed off about the election being stolen. 100,000+. You would think that with so many red hat wearing MAGAs not too far away, there would be hundreds accidentally at the wrong place, like the Capitol. There was a big plan, organized by Trump, to have many many people at the ellipse, a half an hour away. Everyone, or 100,000+, knew where to go, where the action was. It was at the ellipse.

    But at the same time, a half an hour away, there was something happening at the Capitol. And some of those people were MAGA red hats.

    But there were a lot of people there who were NOT red hats. We know the names. Sullivan and Jade Sacker, and the Viking guy. Antifa.

    How did Sullivan, Sacker, and the Viking know to be at the Capitol at that time? Antifa leaders were there. Was that by accident? A crazy crazy coincidence? What amazing luck, for Antifa to be there at exactly that time. Do people like Sullivan and Sacker just hang out at the Capitol all the time? Why were they there? Supposedly, nothing was planned at the Capitol. So why were they there? It makes perfect sense for MAGAs to be there because there were hundreds of thousands of MAGAs in DC, and some, you would assume, would be at the wrong place, but why would Sullivan, Sacker, Antifa be there? It is not normal at all for Antifa to be there, you wouldn't assume that Antifa leaders would be there just randomly hanging around the Capitol on the off chance that something would be happening there at the wrong place where the MAGAs weren't.

    You would have to assume that there was a plan, and that Antifa was in on the plan, because if there was no plan, Antifa wouldn't be there, because this was a massive Trump event a half hour away, and not a known Antifa plan, preannounced and public. So, it would make no sense for Antifa, Sullivan and Sacker to just randomly be there, unless they knew there was something planned at the Capitol.

    There was a famous movie, 45 years ago, Network. Most commonly known for "I'm Mad As Hell and I'm Not Going To Take It Any More." Very famous. Don't know how famous it is now. Howard Beale was the name of the character.

    Key point, Howard Beale get shot live on camera at the end of the movie. Now, the key point there is that, the camera pans to a guy in the audience who is sitting down, doing nothing. Then, the guy in the audience who the camera is pointing to, stands up, pulls out a gun, and shoots Howard Beale. And the point of that, is that the cameraman knew that the guy in the audience would stand up, pull out the gun, and shoot Howard Beale. The cameraman, the media, was in on it, because if he wasn't, that camera shot would not have happened, before the gunman got up, took out the gun and fired.

    It's the same basic thing as the Capitol.

    Something happened that could not have happened if Sackler and Sullivan did not know something was going to happen. Things happened that were impossible without a plan, without foreknowledge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parocks View Post
    I didn't read the article.
    Read the article. It’s the best piece of journalism so far this year. Just read it. Then spread it.
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    The Enduring Media Lies Surrounding January 6th, 2 Years Later | SYSTEM UPDATE #17
    https://rumble.com/v247niq-the-endur...em-update.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    The Enduring Media Lies Surrounding January 6th, 2 Years Later | SYSTEM UPDATE #17
    https://rumble.com/v247niq-the-endur...em-update.html
    I'm watching this right now, @ about the 13 minute mark as Glenn is commenting on the Insurrection Act which under the constitution allows the president to suspend the rights of American citizens and I was struck by how at odds that is with the DoI:

    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
    Just found that to be an interesting contrast, and a good example of how the adoption of the constitution really was a coup. It's no wonder Jefferson was so upset that he was not able to be present for the debate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    It's no wonder Jefferson was so upset that he was not able to be present for the debate...
    Or why Patrick Henry said he "smelt a rat".

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    https://twitter.com/i/status/1611453368110555148



    That's the President of the United States, calling me "sick", a penultimate danger to right thinking people everywhere.

    An Enemy of the State, worthy of being hunted down and executed, because that is what you do to sick, violent, dangers to society.

    Because I, and everybody who thinks like me, had a hand in killing Billy Evans.

    Except for one minor detail.

    Billy Evans was killed by a black supremacist and Nation of Islam supporter named Noah Green who rammed him with a car at a checkpoint.

    This happened months after 6 Jan, on 2 April of 2021.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1611453368110555148



    That's the President of the United States, calling me "sick", a penultimate danger to right thinking people everywhere.

    An Enemy of the State, worthy of being hunted down and executed, because that is what you do to sick, violent, dangers to society.

    Because I, and everybody who thinks like me, had a hand in killing Billy Evans.

    Except for one minor detail.

    Billy Evans was killed by a black supremacist and Nation of Islam supporter named Noah Green who rammed him with a car at a checkpoint.

    This happened months after 6 Jan, on 2 April of 2021.
    Biden has plenty of gaffs and there is no excuse for him to demean those he does not politically align with. However, I do not think there is any gaff here. He says he is honoring Jan 6 and also Billy go to the 20 second mark and he even says it happened 3 months later. He is not saying that Billy died on Jan 6. For all of his lame incoherent moments, I don't think this is one of them.



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