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  1. #121
    still at this?
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..



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  3. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bunk.
    The extent has been proven, it was the largest landslide in history and Rand not only refused to object to the fraudulent slates but made the ridiculous claim that he couldn't and that the states have a right to cheat if they want.
    Trump lost by more than 7 million votes. Trump claims 2.7 million votes were flipped to Biden. So that would be a move of 5.4 million votes. By Trumps on account he lost the popular vote. Ronald Reagan won the popular vote by 16.7 million votes and won every state except one. You are the biggest liar in history.
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    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  4. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump lost by more than 7 million votes. Trump claims 2.7 million votes were flipped to Biden. So that would be a move of 5.4 million votes. By Trumps on account he lost the popular vote. Ronald Reagan won the popular vote by 16.7 million votes and won every state except one. You are the biggest liar in history.
    Trump never admitted he lost the popular vote (he never admitted the popular vote counts were accurate, ever). Yes, he claimed that 2.7M were flipped, but it's also true he only lost by about 40,000 votes to change the outcome of the election (just like he won by only 100,000 votes in 2016)

    This is why he said "just" he wanted to find 12,000 in GA.

    Please don't challenge Trump's crown, he's still the biggest liar in history.
    Last edited by PRB; 02-17-2021 at 02:50 AM.
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  5. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    This is why he said "just" he wanted to find 12,000 in GA.
    I'm not a Trump fan, by any means, but you don't have to parrot the MSM line. That's not what he was saying. In context, he was saying there were all sorts of problems throughout the state, and his people put them into different categories - if the governor and his staff didn't want to get into each case, they just had to look at one category and it'd be enough.

    It may be important if you want to call someone a liar that you have your facts straight. Just sayin'.
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  6. #125
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump lost by more than 7 million votes. Trump claims 2.7 million votes were flipped to Biden. So that would be a move of 5.4 million votes. By Trumps on account he lost the popular vote. Ronald Reagan won the popular vote by 16.7 million votes and won every state except one. You are the biggest liar in history.
    Trump has not made a definitive claim about how many votes were flipped in total, he has made some claims about at least a certain amount being flipped, far more were than he needs to claim or prove to reverse the results.
    Then there are all the Trump votes that were destroyed and the Biden votes that were invented out of thin air.

    Biden lost by more than Reagan won by easily.
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  7. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Trump lost by more than 7 million votes. Trump claims 2.7 million votes were flipped to Biden. So that would be a move of 5.4 million votes. By Trumps on account he lost the popular vote. Ronald Reagan won the popular vote by 16.7 million votes and won every state except one. You are the biggest liar in history.
    And you came to that "conclusion" how?

    CNN Is part of the Fake News Media aka the SEE BS Network so they are NOT a reliable source.

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  8. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    And you came to that "conclusion" how?

    CNN Is part of the Fake News Media aka the SEE BS Network so they are NOT a reliable source.

    .

    Trump is not part of CNN. Those were his numbers from his tweet.
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    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  9. #128
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump has not made a definitive claim about how many votes were flipped in total, he has made some claims about at least a certain amount being flipped, far more were than he needs to claim or prove to reverse the results.




    The 2.7 million flipped number hasn't even been proven.

    Then there are all the Trump votes that were destroyed and the Biden votes that were invented out of thin air.

    Biden lost by more than Reagan won by easily.
    Come up with an actual number then. You won't because you can't.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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  11. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post




    The 2.7 million flipped number hasn't even been proven.



    Come up with an actual number then. You won't because you can't.
    That is one report of some of the votes switched, destroyed and invented, we have seen evidence of far more and Trump does not say that is the limit of it.

    I don't have to provide an exact number and can't because so far nobody will have the investigations required to provide an exact number.

    The fraud amounted to tens of millions of votes and erased the biggest landslide in history, Trump won more votes than any POTUS ever even after all of the fraud and there is no way Biden came anywhere close based on the evidence of fraud we have and the total lack of popularity and enthusiasm for him combined with his total wreck of a campaign.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post




    The 2.7 million flipped number hasn't even been proven.



    Come up with an actual number then. You won't because you can't.
    you just called Trump a liar?
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  13. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post

    I don't have to provide an exact number
    LMAO

    You and jmdrake keep fighting I love this
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  14. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    I'm not a Trump fan, by any means, but you don't have to parrot the MSM line. That's not what he was saying. In context, he was saying there were all sorts of problems throughout the state, and his people put them into different categories - if the governor and his staff didn't want to get into each case, they just had to look at one category and it'd be enough.

    It may be important if you want to call someone a liar that you have your facts straight. Just sayin'.
    not at all contradicting what I said.

    My point was, it's a fact that by only about 40,000 votes, in the closest states (AZ, WI, GA, total of 37 electoral votes, then NE-2, 1 electoral vote), Trump could have won, including GA by about 12,000 votes.

    That's why he settled for "just find these", even if flipping GA wouldn't be enough to get him to 270

    People who said 269/269 was impossible were relying on the fact that some states called their elections earlier, and GA was recounted too.

    I was calling Trump a liar for his reputation of lying, not for anything in this call with Raffensperger.
    Last edited by PRB; 02-17-2021 at 02:51 AM.
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  15. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    That is one report of some of the votes switched, destroyed and invented, we have seen evidence of far more and Trump does not say that is the limit of it.

    I don't have to provide an exact number and can't because so far nobody will have the investigations required to provide an exact number.

    The fraud amounted to tens of millions of votes and erased the biggest landslide in history, Trump won more votes than any POTUS ever even after all of the fraud and there is no way Biden came anywhere close based on the evidence of fraud we have and the total lack of popularity and enthusiasm for him combined with his total wreck of a campaign.
    Come up with an actual number. Any actual hard number based on anybody's actual claim or STFU.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  16. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    you just called Trump a liar?
    I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm just not a pathological liar either. You and @Swordsmyth are mirror images of each other, going on pushing false claims in the face of contrary evidence.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

  17. #135
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I'm not a Trump supporter. I'm just not a pathological liar either. You and @Swordsmyth are mirror images of each other, going on pushing false claims in the face of contrary evidence.
    Funny how that works, right? They both push partisan dishonesty, while those of us seeking truth get lumped in with one side or the other whenever it's convenient.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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  18. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by PRB View Post
    LMAO

    You and jmdrake keep fighting I love this
    Of course you do. Do you and @Swordsmyth still share a cubicle, or do they have you two working from home now?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    We believe our lying eyes...



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  20. #137
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post




    The 2.7 million flipped number hasn't even been proven.



    Come up with an actual number then. You won't because you can't.
    Technically, President Trump was just quoting journalists at OAN. However, their website lays it all out quite well.

    https://www.oann.com/tag/voter-fraud/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  21. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Technically, President Trump was just quoting journalists at OAN. However, their website lays it all out quite well.

    https://www.oann.com/tag/voter-fraud/
    Did you see an article there where they lay out evidence for Dominion voting machines deleting Trump votes or switching them to Biden?

    I clicked your link, and I don't see anything there that even claims that. And I couldn't even find it when I did a search for Dominion.

  22. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Did you see an article there where they lay out evidence for Dominion voting machines deleting Trump votes or switching them to Biden?

    I clicked your link, and I don't see anything there that even claims that. And I couldn't even find it when I did a search for Dominion.
    For starters:

    https://www.oann.com/evidence-of-for...ection-mounts/
    https://www.oann.com/every-legal-vot...speaks-to-oan/
    https://www.oann.com/project-veritas...raud-evidence/
    https://www.oann.com/coming-up-on-in-focus/
    https://www.oann.com/fulton-county-g...irector-fired/

    https://justthenews.com/politics-pol...lots-pa-may-be
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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  24. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Which one of those lays out the evidence for the claims in Trump's tweet?
    You decide.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  25. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    You decide.
    So none of them?

    It's looking like in post #137 when you claimed that OANN laid out the evidence for those claims at the link you provided, you might have been lying, and actually were not aware of any article at that link where they did that. Were you?

    If not, could you just link the actual article where that is done?

  26. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    So none of them?

    It's looking like in post #137 when you claimed that OANN laid out the evidence for those claims at the link you provided, you might have been lying, and actually were not aware of any article at that link where they did that. Were you?

    If not, could you just link the actual article where that is done?
    They did an expose' and I do not have the time now to spoon-feed you all the info.

    https://www.oann.com/absoluteproof/
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

  27. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    They did an expose' and I do not have the time now to spoon-feed you all the info.

    https://www.oann.com/absoluteproof/
    I'm at a loss about post 137 and all your follow ups.

    What is the point of claiming that they laid out evidence to substantiate the claims in Trump's tweet, and providing first the link in post 137, and then several more, when not one of those links goes to a place where they do what you said?

    It's not about spoon feeding. But you never had to make the claim or provide that link in the first place if you actually weren't aware of any article in the list that came up when following that link that did what you claimed.
    Last edited by Invisible Man; 02-17-2021 at 10:41 AM.



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  29. #145
    I suspect that what happened was that Trump's tweet really was a quote from an article at OANN, but that they subsequently took that article down because they realized that they made false claims in that article and were no longer willing to stand by them.
    Last edited by Invisible Man; 02-17-2021 at 10:49 AM.

  30. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    And you came to that "conclusion" how?

    CNN Is part of the Fake News Media aka the SEE BS Network so they are NOT a reliable source.

    .
    Exactly! He's a paid shill.
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  31. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I'm not a Trump supporter.
    That's the problem.
    pcosmar's lie : There are more votes than registered Voters..

  32. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    The extent has been proven, it was the largest landslide in history and Rand not only refused to object to the fraudulent slates but made the ridiculous claim that he couldn't and that the states have a right to cheat if they want
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    I don't have to provide an exact number and can't because so far nobody will have the investigations required to provide an exact number.
    Which one is it? Has the extent of election fraud been proven? Or have the investigations that are a prerequisite to proving the extent of election fraud not been done yet?

  33. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Bunk.
    The extent has been proven, it was the largest landslide in history and Rand not only refused to object to the fraudulent slates but made the ridiculous claim that he couldn't and that the states have a right to cheat if they want.
    Should states be allowed to cheat if they want? Why not? Should Governors and Mayors be allowed to let riots continue if they want? Should States and Cities decide they want more or less police present? Should they be able to decide what type of weapons and vehicles they use to neutralize crime in their own city or states?

  34. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    Which one is it? Has the extent of election fraud been proven? Or have the investigations that are a prerequisite to proving the extent of election fraud not been done yet?
    You have exposed the @Swordsmyth paradox. Claim something is proven by pointing out that it isn't.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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