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    Should College Application Be Required for a High School Diploma? - Ron Paul Institute

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    Written by Richard K. Vedder
    Thursday February 4, 2021

    The Wall Street Journal last week reported legislators in a growing number of states are trying to pass new laws requiring high school seniors to complete applications for college financial aid (mainly the federal FAFSA—Free Application for Student Aid—but also sometimes state forms) before receiving a high school diploma. It is already law in Louisiana. Nebraska legislation was vetoed by Governor Pete Ricketts.

    The argument for such legislation is: a college degree will be needed for most jobs created in coming years, and college graduates are more productive citizens, so increasing higher education participation should stimulate economic growth. Moreover, underrepresented groups in college attendance, such as minorities and lower income citizens, often fail to apply for available financial aid to attend college, and thus do not even try to go to college. This legislation is a way of nudging high school seniors to become aware of the possibility of getting college financial aid. In Louisiana, completion of the FAFSA form rose after the Louisiana law was passed.

    Yet there are strong compelling arguments against such legislation. First, I think it is dishonest, even immoral, to withdraw an earned mark of academic accomplishment, a high school diploma, from a student because he or she refuses to do something having absolutely nothing to do with high school academic performance. Consider two students of similar financial circumstance graduating from the same high school, one in the top one-fourth of the graduating class but who plans to go to work in the family business (farm, hardware store, roofing company, restaurant, etc.) after graduation, and thus does not want to go to college and fill out the FAFSA application. The second student is in the bottom half of the graduating class but still wants to attend at least community college, and perhaps a nearby state university and thus completes the application. In Louisiana, the better student is deemed to NOT be a high school graduate, while the poorer student is, which is a complete and utter lie.

    Second, as Governor Ricketts indicated, the FAFSA (and no doubt state financial aid forms) requires intimate financial and personal information—not only about family income, but also debts, alimony, etc., that the government has no inherent right to have, but would gain under the Louisiana approach.

    Third, for many students, college is a bad experience. Nearly 40% of those entering four year programs full time do not graduate within six years. Of those graduating, roughly 40% are underemployed for considerable periods—doing jobs historically performed by high school graduates. The Louisiana law is the first step towards requiring all students to attend college—raising the age when it is permissible to leave school to nearly 20 from 16 or so at the present, increasing the number of non-graduating college students, some with big debts. Kids not filling out the FAFSA voluntarily on average are below average high school students with low probability of college success.

    Fourth, as our population ages and falls more deeply into debts both foreign and domestic, America is going to have a hard time sustaining a growing population of people unable to work because of age. Moves such as this one might aggravate an already serious problem worsened by irresponsible monetary and fiscal policies of the federal government and its central bank.

    Fifth, many students voluntarily attend college without financial aid because affluent family circumstances mean financial aid is not required or even desired. Why should these students have to complete forms providing intimate family information?

    The College for All crowd is worried. College enrollments have fallen for nine consecutive years. Finances are shaky for many schools. Many highly educated elite perceive themselves to be smarter and wiser than the masses, and believe that they should serve the role that Plato envisioned, as philosopher-kings. They think an educated society is a better society, and besides compulsory college will support these wannabe philosopher-kings in the style to which they have become accustomed. But as I pointed out recently, people on balance are fleeing areas with relatively large numbers of college graduates. Should we subsidize and encourage college, or tax it as a polluter lowering the overall quality of life?

    Reprinted with permission from the Independent Institute.
    Proof that Education no longer has ANYTHING to do with ability or a set of learned skills but MONEY AND POLITICS.

    In order to be "qualified" for anything, you are required to be two things:

    1. Debt Slave
    2. Thoroughly Indoctrinated


    If you are not both of those things, then your useless piece of paper that says youre qualified is not allowed to you or your ilk.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.



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    The argument for such legislation is: a college degree will be needed for most jobs created in coming years, and college graduates are more productive citizens, so increasing higher education participation should stimulate economic growth.
    By this "logic" they should just issue college degrees immediately upon graduation from high school. [1]

    It's the same kind of magical thinking that motivates fiat currency inflation as a means of "stimulus".



    [1] Of course, they won't do this, because that's not really the point. The point is to keep the banking and "education" systems doped up on artificial credit expansions - just like the heroin addict has to increase the frequency and potency of his fixes in order to achieve the same high ... (but the Law of Diminishing Returns will not be denied, and sooner or later reality will require the books to balance ...)
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    Ridiculous. Beer doesnt cost so much you need a college loan to buy it and not pay it back . Just sell some weed and get yer beer.
    Do something Danke

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    The "Education" system is just as addicted to money as Congress and the Kleptocrats. As long as this remains true, they will always prioritize "selling" more "Education" to people that cant afford it than have any interest in teaching people how things work.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

    Quote Originally Posted by Zippyjuan View Post
    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    FAFSA is about collecting as much personal information as possible in a database. Now it seems "they" want to make that mandatory.

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