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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Don't you get tired of posting fear porn? None of that is going to happen. All the same crap was predicted when Obama won.
    To the person falling from the top a 100-story building, passing one floor is much like passing the previous floor.

    Until suddenly it isn't ...


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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I think people have forgotten that Trump built his entire business success on the art of the con. Why people think it would be any different after he became President is kind of surprising.

    There is voter fraud but was there proof that it was enough to actually throw the election? I am not talking about some nonsense people get from some vlogger on youtube doing it for views for profit or Alex Jones. He lost something like 40 out of 54 cases. Where is the actual evidence that has not already been debunked?
    Where is the evidence that has been debunked? There are hundreds of testimonies. Only like 4 have been debunked.

    And how can anyone reasonably claim that any of these were debunked, without a single $#@!ing audit?
    Last edited by TheTexan; 02-02-2021 at 05:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.3D View Post
    Do you think everybody is just going to give up their firearms?
    Just like they refused to put on THE MASK.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    To the person falling from the top a 100-story building, passing one floor is much like passing the previous floor.

    Until suddenly it isn't ...
    'member when they passed the 16th Amendment and everyone was like "lol it's just a little tax on the super rich, just stahp"?

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Don't you get tired of posting fear porn? None of that is going to happen. All the same crap was predicted when Obama won.
    This is the new agenda. Radicalize the right. So far it's working like a charm.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    He's whistling past the graveyard...he's his covering up his fear with outward shows of nonchalance.

    Can't blame him really, I'm scared too...hell, if you're not, you're either part of the enemy's forces, or clueless to the point of idiocy.

    I've just reconciled myself to it better...helps not having too much to look forward to as old age approaches.
    I'm neither your enemy or an idiot, and I am not scared. The absolute worst that can happen is that I'm killed by the machine. My physical body is gone and my energy moves on. Regrettable yes, but I will not live in fear even though I do see clearly what is coming.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    This is the new agenda. Radicalize the right. So far it's working like a charm.
    If that's "their agenda", I am glad for it, and welcome their assistance.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If that's "their agenda", I am glad for it, and welcome their assistance.
    I realize you are running a spoof account and all, but those that consider themselves on 'the right' politically are being herded into extremism. Do you look up to Antifa? Why would you look forward to irrationally upset and radicalized conservatives? It's literally like painting the word 'NAIL' on your shirt and asking to be hammered.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    I realize you are running a spoof account and all, but those that consider themselves on 'the right' politically are being herded into extremism.
    Extremism isn't a bad thing. People like to give it a bad connotation, but really it just means being honest to yourself and others about your views.

    Most people are extreme. They just hide it because it's not socially appropriate to hold views outside of what fits on a 4x6 index card of acceptable opinion.

    Being forced to suppress yourself like that isn't healthy. People should be able to express their views, however "extreme" they may be.

    Do you look up to Antifa?
    I do look up to Antifa. Not because I agree with them on any kind of ideological basis. But I respect that they have an opinion on what they want their world to be like, and they are motivated to go out and get it. If more people did that, the world would be a better place.

    I 100% support their right to build a community for themselves that upholds their ideologies. Where I do strongly disagree with Antifa, is I doubt most in Antifa would be satisfied with that. I'm pretty sure most would want to mandate their views on the entire world, if they were capable of doing so, and that sin is not something I can overlook.

    Why would you look forward to irrationally upset and radicalized conservatives?
    First off, what would lead you to use the word "irrationally" in the same sentence as "upset"? If you're NOT upset about something in the current state of affairs, you belong in the loonie bin.

    Second, "radicalization" is just another word for "polarization". And polarization is a good thing. I want the leftists to become radicalized. I want the non-leftists to become radicalized.

    The sooner we can all get radicalized, the sooner that we can recognize that our ideologies are incompatible with each other, and the sooner that we can either secede, or as AF likes to say, light this $#@!ing candle on fire.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 02-02-2021 at 07:50 AM.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  12. #40
    Continue using the enemy's tools, and you will only ever serve their purposes.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    Continue using the enemy's tools, and you will only ever serve their purposes.
    I don't think the Texan is "using anyone's tools", there's a huge divide in the country, on many fronts, and those who live in or near the cities are going to bear the brunt of any sorting of the issues.

    Those who watch the Tee-Vee are going to polarize along predetermined lines instead of natural ones.

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    Continue using the enemy's tools, and you will only ever serve their purposes.
    The enemy's tool is compliance.

    Through fear and intimidation.

    It is true that they want the left to radicalize.

    Radicalization of the right, however, is a burden assiduously avoided. It is not unexpected however, and thus not beyond a measure of control.

    Which is what you are seeing today: Compliance.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  16. #43
    I'm waiting for them to attack the electoral college.

  17. #44
    A bill of this caliber should be able to make a million man march on DC happen.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    HUH?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54LgyqSPfsQ
    A savage barbaric tribal society where thugs parade the streets and illegally assault and murder innocent civilians, yeah that is the alternative to having police. Oh wait, that is the police

    We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.
    - Edward R. Murrow

    ...I think we have moral obligations to disobey unjust laws, because non-cooperation with evil is as much as a moral obligation as cooperation with good. - MLK Jr.

    How to trigger a liberal: "I didn't get vaccinated."

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Secession is for pussies that prefer peace to war. And DOOMED to fail. Had the South pressed at it's inception, instead of trying to establish a line of demarcation, history would be different. TOTAL war against the Fed. Gov. is the only hope. Just as the War of Independence. The President, Vice-President and, at least, 90% of the House of Representatives need to tread air.
    There, I said it. Molon-Labe.
    I agree. Secession is DOA since we would need to rely upon sanitized (pussified) state leadership in order to enact. I suspect most people use "secession" as a safe placeholder for "revolution."
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    I'm neither your enemy or an idiot, and I am not scared. The absolute worst that can happen is that I'm killed by the machine. My physical body is gone and my energy moves on. Regrettable yes, but I will not live in fear even though I do see clearly what is coming.
    I would then concern myself with judgement.

    I reckon God will judge rather harshly those who, when faced with evil in their time, rather than mobilize and fight to protect the innocent, stood down, discouraged their fellow men and waited for God to consume the unrighteous and wicked with bolts of fire from his ass.
    Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. - Heinrich Heine 1823

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I agree. Secession is DOA since we would need to rely upon sanitized (pussified) state leadership in order to enact. I suspect most people use "secession" as a safe placeholder for "revolution."
    If we can't rely on a pussified populace to even secede, it seems a stretch to me, that those same pussies would be willing to engage in a civil war.

    I don't have any disillusioned notion that secession would not be met with violence, but it would seem to be a necessary first step regardless.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    Continue using the enemy's tools, and you will only ever serve their purposes.
    Quit trying to navel gaze and over complicate this in order to cause FUD.

    Forces of brutal authoritarian despotism are taking their seats at the levers of power, after working stealthily in the background for decades.

    Their goal is unity with their purpose at all costs and absolute despotism.

    Nothing new about this, it has happened hundreds of times through recorded history.

    "We" are marked for forceful compliance and eventual extermination.

    We resist and fight or we capitulate and die, individually and collectively.

    Nothing more difficult than that.
    Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. - Heinrich Heine 1823

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    If we can't rely on a pussified populace to even secede, it seems a stretch to me, that those same pussies would be willing to engage in a civil war.

    I don't have any disillusioned notion that secession would not be met with violence, but it would seem to be a necessary first step regardless.
    I think that there is a greater chance of people boiling over organically than for state officials to declare secession.
    "I shall bring justice to Westeros. Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that."
    -Stannis Baratheon

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Quit trying to navel gaze and over complicate this in order to cause FUD.

    Forces of brutal authoritarian despotism are taking their seats at the levers of power, after working stealthily in the background for decades.

    Their goal is unity with their purpose at all costs and absolute despotism.

    Nothing new about this, it has happened hundreds of times through recorded history.

    "We" are marked for forceful compliance and eventual extermination.

    We resist and fight or we capitulate and die, individually and collectively.

    Nothing more difficult than that.
    Well said good sir!

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    I would then concern myself with judgement.

    I reckon God will judge rather harshly those who, when faced with evil in their time, rather than mobilize and fight to protect the innocent, stood down, discouraged their fellow men and waited for God to consume the unrighteous and wicked with bolts of fire from his ass.
    I do no such thing.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Quit trying to navel gaze and over complicate this in order to cause FUD.

    Forces of brutal authoritarian despotism are taking their seats at the levers of power, after working stealthily in the background for decades.

    Their goal is unity with their purpose at all costs and absolute despotism.

    Nothing new about this, it has happened hundreds of times through recorded history.

    "We" are marked for forceful compliance and eventual extermination.

    We resist and fight or we capitulate and die, individually and collectively.

    Nothing more difficult than that.
    I've no idea what FUD is, so that's lost on me. The rest of your post I will not argue at all, I completely agree. The only place you and I are at odds is I don't want to paint regular mainstreet citizens that just so happen to consider themselves democrats with the same brush as I do the actual string pullers. Those people are going to be on the chopping block just the same as us here soon, they will realize just like most mainstreet republicans will how badly they've been manipulated.

    I've no hesitation in using whatever force I need to employ to stop someone or something from keeping me living my life as I see fit. But I will not look at my fellow human beings that have been so abused as I have been with anger or hate. It really says something that this mentality is so attacked on these forums these days.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    I've no idea what FUD is, so that's lost on me. The rest of your post I will not argue at all, I completely agree. The only place you and I are at odds is I don't want to paint regular mainstreet citizens that just so happen to consider themselves democrats with the same brush as I do the actual string pullers. Those people are going to be on the chopping block just the same as us here soon, they will realize just like most mainstreet republicans will how badly they've been manipulated.

    I've no hesitation in using whatever force I need to employ to stop someone or something from keeping me living my life as I see fit. But I will not look at my fellow human beings that have been so abused as I have been with anger or hate. It really says something that this mentality is so attacked on these forums these days.
    One of the nicest guys I've ever met, a person I still consider a friend, once said he would gladly put a bullet in my brain, if it was necessary to maintain his political agenda.

    Just because they are nice people, whose kids are friends with your kids, and generally lead a happy life.

    They will still put a bullet in your brain. If and when required.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I agree. Secession is DOA since we would need to rely upon sanitized (pussified) state leadership in order to enact. I suspect most people use "secession" as a safe placeholder for "revolution."
    IF secession is DOA, then everything is DOA. Where do you think all of this goes?

    Whether secession can be had peacefully or not isn't really material here. The point is that there are 3 paths forward - they eliminate us, we eliminate them, or we go our separate ways.

    ETA: I'm 100% NOT in favor of rounding people up because they don't agree with me politically. Now, if that's their tactic, so be it and we'll deal with that. But I absolutely will work toward finding a path toward secession before I go in with that.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    The point is that there are 3 paths forward - they eliminate us, we eliminate them, or we go our separate ways.
    2 out of 3 of these outcomes, are acceptable
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    2 out of 3 of these outcomes, are acceptable
    2 out of those 3 outcomes are Yugoslavia, or Northern Ireland. So I'll pass on twenty some years of internecine, guerrilla, sectarian conflict while a wealthy society crumbles around us and some future global power intermittently bombs parts of this country because the leader got an unapproved BJ.

    Let's just skip to the f**king end part, where we end up dividing things up anyway, and deciding to live peacefully, separately, and regretting all of the killing that went on.

    AGAIN, if the other side chooses conflict, that's on them. But as for ME, I'm with Ron - secession is the only way forward here.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    2 out of those 3 outcomes are Yugoslavia, or Northern Ireland. So I'll pass on twenty some years of internecine, guerrilla, sectarian conflict while a wealthy society crumbles around us and some future global power intermittently bombs parts of this country because the leader got an unapproved BJ.

    Let's just skip to the f**king end part, where we end up dividing things up anyway, and deciding to live peacefully, separately, and regretting all of the killing that went on.

    AGAIN, if the other side chooses conflict, that's on them. But as for ME, I'm with Ron - secession is the only way forward here.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to A Son of Liberty again.

    Bonus points for using the word "internecine" in a sentence.
    Last edited by TheTexan; 02-02-2021 at 12:33 PM.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

    Donald Trump / Rand Paul (Vice Pres) 2016!!!!

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm View Post
    I think that there is a greater chance of people boiling over organically than for state officials to declare secession.
    That's the way I see it happening (if it happens at all). Maybe county by county, ignoring federal and state mandates... even laws. More of a nullification than actual secession but even if it's mostly peaceful, we'd all be outlaws on the books, waiting for the second shoe to drop. We'll see. Lots of variables in this equation.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by A Son of Liberty View Post
    IF secession is DOA, then everything is DOA. Where do you think all of this goes?

    Whether secession can be had peacefully or not isn't really material here. The point is that there are 3 paths forward - they eliminate us, we eliminate them, or we go our separate ways.

    ETA: I'm 100% NOT in favor of rounding people up because they don't agree with me politically. Now, if that's their tactic, so be it and we'll deal with that. But I absolutely will work toward finding a path toward secession before I go in with that.
    I think they are talking about peaceful secession.

    I happen to agree, I think we've gone past that point.

    Theye are not going to allow us to just walk away.
    Where they have burned books, they will end in burning human beings. - Heinrich Heine 1823

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