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    Post ‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump

    Source is NYT, excercise caution. Though not overtly part of deep state neocons supported "coup' against Trump, NYT was part of 'fake Iraq WMD yellow cake' conspiracy theory that was used to play lots of people like a fiddle.


    ‘A Total Failure’: The Proud Boys Now Mock Trump

    Members of the far-right group, who were among Donald Trump’s staunchest fans, are calling him “weak” as more of them were charged for storming the U.S. Capitol.

    Members of the Proud Boys, who have engaged in political violence, at a rally in Portland, Ore., in September.Credit...Diana Zeyneb Alhindawi for The New York Times

    By Sheera Frenkel and Alan Feuer


    • Jan. 20, 2021


    After the presidential election last year, the Proud Boys, a far-right group, declared its undying loyalty to President Trump.
    In a Nov. 8 post in a private channel of the messaging app Telegram, the group urged its followers to attend protests against an election that it said had been fraudulently stolen from Mr. Trump. “Hail Emperor Trump,” the Proud Boys wrote.

    But by this week, the group’s attitude toward Mr. Trump had changed. “Trump will go down as a total failure,” the Proud Boys said in the same Telegram channel on Monday.
    As Mr. Trump departed the White House on Wednesday, the Proud Boys, once among his staunchest supporters, have also started leaving his side. In dozens of conversations on social media sites like Gab and Telegram, members of the group have begun calling Mr. Trump a “shill” and “extraordinarily weak,” according to messages reviewed by The New York Times. They have also urged supporters to stop attending rallies and protests held for Mr. Trump or the Republican Party.

    The comments are a startling turn for the Proud Boys, which for years had backed Mr. Trump and promoted political violence. Led by Enrique Tarrio, many of its thousands of members were such die-hard fans of Mr. Trump that they offered to serve as his private militia and celebrated after he told them in a presidential debate last year to “stand back and stand by.” On Jan. 6, some Proud Boys members stormed the U.S. Capitol.

    But since then, discontent with Mr. Trump, who later condemned the violence, has boiled over. On social media, Proud Boys participants have complained about his willingness to leave office and said his disavowal of the Capitol rampage was an act of betrayal. And Mr. Trump, cut off on Facebook and Twitter, has been unable to talk directly to them to soothe their concerns or issue new rallying cries.

    The Proud Boys’ anger toward Mr. Trump has heightened after he did nothing to help those in the group who face legal action for the Capitol violence. On Wednesday, a Proud Boy leader, Joseph Biggs, 37, was arrested in Florida and charged with unlawful entry and corruptly obstructing an official proceeding in the riot. At least four other members of the group also face charges stemming from the attack.

    “When Trump told them that if he left office, America would fall into an abyss, they believed him,” Arieh Kovler, a political consultant and independent researcher in Israel who studies the far right, said of the Proud Boys. “Now that he has left office, they believe he has both surrendered and failed to do his patriotic duty.”
    The shift raises questions about the strength of the support for Mr. Trump and suggests that pockets of his fan base are fracturing. Many of Mr. Trump’s fans still falsely believe he was deprived of office, but other far-right groups such as the Oath Keepers, America First and the Three Percenters have also started criticizing him in private Telegram channels, according to a review of messages.


    Last week, Nicholas Fuentes, the leader of America First, wrote in his Telegram channel that Mr. Trump’s response to the Capitol rampage was “very weak and flaccid” and added, “Not the same guy that ran in 2015.”

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    On Wednesday, the Proud Boys Telegram group welcomed President Biden to office. “At least the incoming administration is honest about their intentions,” the group wrote.

    Mr. Kovler said the activity showed that groups that had coalesced around Mr. Trump were now trying to figure out their future direction. By losing his ability to post on Twitter and Facebook, Mr. Trump had also become less useful to the far-right groups, who counted on him to raise their profile on a national stage, Mr. Kovler said.

    Mr. Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys, could not be reached for comment. A spokesman for Mr. Trump did not respond to a request for comment.

    nytimes.com/2021/01/20/technology/proud-boys-trump.html



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    Good. It looks like the farce of an election is already paying dividends.

    The first step in getting out of any hole is to stop digging. And falling for a conman who advocates more digging was a bad sign.


    and added, “Not the same guy that ran in 2015.”
    Yeah, gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that one. We tried to tell you, but you were wedded to the con.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Good. It looks like the farce of an election is already paying dividends.
    You might be onto something.

    "Joe Biden-Kamala H era will probably serve as introspection break for globalist neocon funded Netanyahu Republicans aka MAGA movement. Sort of like Obama-Biden era did for Bush-Cheney supporters. Hopefully lessons will be learnt."

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    Some of the Q followers on Bitchute and the like are already switching gears as well. "Oh I followed along for the info but I never fully bought in". Grifters, all of em.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Well it sort of makes sense that followers of an opportnist will also embrace politics of opportunism.

    I was afraid that media polls would read MAGA popularity in single digits a year from now (from current media reported reading of 29% approval) but looks like could happen well before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Good. It looks like the farce of an election is already paying dividends.

    The first step in getting out of any hole is to stop digging. And falling for a conman who advocates more digging was a bad sign.




    Yeah, gonna have to go ahead and disagree with that one. We tried to tell you, but you were wedded to the con.
    Yep!
    There is no spoon.

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    Love to see another American First Political leader arise, that has real integrity

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Love to see another American First Political leader arise, that has real integrity
    You mean the political reincarnation of Ron Paul? If Massie takes McConnell seat that could happen.
    9/11 Thermate experiments

    Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I

    "I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"

    "We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul

    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.



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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    Some of the Q followers on Bitchute and the like are already switching gears as well. "Oh I followed along for the info but I never fully bought in". Grifters, all of em.
    Anybody who keeps following that CIA psyop at this point is severely delusional.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    All the trumpkins will move on to the next fearless leader in 4 years. Trump will be a bad memory.

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    Where’s Ross Perot when ya need him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Where’s Ross Perot when ya need him?
    Sadly, The Hand Grenade with a Haircut is no longer with us

    June 27, 1930 – July 9, 2019

    WHY DIDN'T ROSS PEROT TAKE A VICTORY LAP WHEN NAFTA DISAPPEARED OUR JOBS?

    WHAT HAPPENED?

    Whatever they did to Ross it worked. No one ever saw his charts again.

    Ross was a Prophet - when it came to "Buy-Partisan Trade Deals"

    But now the enemy is in charge. And Ross can't talk.

    Rand lied about Crimea and Iran
    " US Must Take Strong Action Against Putin's Aggression" -Rand
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    Quote Originally Posted by vita3 View Post
    Where’s Ross Perot when ya need him?
    Perot was a visionary. Right about NAFTA, right about globalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ligant View Post
    I wonder why @Swordsmyth stopped posting?
    That's news to me.
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