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    Listen to Trump incite supporters at the end of his “Save America March” speech

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    Holly crap. Those are inciteful words? "So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America" incited a riot?



    Of course those words incited a riot, especially when our Fifth Column Media and their Yellow Journalist, repeatedly pounded the fraudulent idea into the minds of the American people.
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    JWK



    Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, in addition to Facebook, Twitter ETC., and countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.



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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
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    Holly crap. Those are inciteful words? "So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America" incited a riot?



    Of course those words incited a riot, especially when our Fifth Column Media and their Yellow Journalist, repeatedly pounded the fraudulent idea into the minds of the American people.
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    JWK



    Today’s Fifth Column media ___ MSNBC, NEW YORK TIMES, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, WASHINGTON POST, ATLANTIC MAGAZINE, New York Daily News, Time, in addition to Facebook, Twitter ETC., and countless Yellow Journalists who are socialist revolutionaries ___ make Russia’s old Pravda, [an organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union] look like propaganda amateurs.
    Impeachment 2.0 Is about Diverting Attention Away From Cartoon Scale Election Fraud and Dragging President Trumps Name Through the Mud…




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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    at 1:10:30.

    So we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol. And we're going to try and give... the democrats are hopeless the're never voting for anything, not even one vote. but we're going to try and give our republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let's walk down Pennsylvania Ave. I want to thank you all. God Bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much.
    . The End.

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    A case study in media manipulation

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Impeachment 2.0 Is about Diverting Attention Away From Cartoon Scale Election Fraud and Dragging President Trumps Name Through the Mud…
    This whole thing about President Trump incited a riot is a masterful manipulation by our Fifth Column media and their Yellow Journalist. Unfortunately, a vast number of the American People have accepted the media’s word without even knowing what the President actually said. And our socialist Revolutionary media have done such a good job that even Republican members of Congress are afraid to push back on the phony narrative created by them.



    How sad



    JWK

    “Until you realize how easy it is for your mind to be manipulated, you remain the puppet of someone else’s game.” ― Evita Ochel

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    This whole thing about President Trump incited a riot is a masterful manipulation by our Fifth Column media and their Yellow Journalist. Unfortunately, a vast number of the American People have accepted the media’s word without even knowing what the President actually said. And our socialist Revolutionary media have done such a good job that even Republican members of Congress are afraid to push back on the phony narrative created by them.



    How sad



    JWK

    “Until you realize how easy it is for your mind to be manipulated, you remain the puppet of someone else’s game.” ― Evita Ochel


    HOW SAD INDEED


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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by danda View Post
    at 1:10:30.

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    The end of what?
    We must picture Hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment. - C. S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by danda View Post
    at 1:10:30.

    So we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol. And we're going to try and give... the democrats are hopeless the're never voting for anything, not even one vote. but we're going to try and give our republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. So let's walk down Pennsylvania Ave. I want to thank you all. God Bless you and God bless America. Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much.
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    This is too rambling and incoherent to be an incitement of anything but the disgust of rhetoricians.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
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    Holly crap. Those are inciteful words?
    Granted there were some militray veterans (whose primary skill in "fighting" is physical combat) and 2nd amend supporters in the DC MAGA rally, media wing is picking divisive words like "fight like hell", "trial by combat":

    Prosecutors’ probe of Capitol violence could include statements by Trump and Giuliani
    During a rally shortly before the riots, the president called on his supporters to “fight like hell” before dispatching them to march to the houses of Congress.
    During a rally shortly before the violence at the Capitol, Trump called on his supporters to “fight like hell” before dispatching them to march to the houses of Congress as they were considering objections to the electoral votes that declared President-elect Joe Biden the winner of the Nov. 3 election. At the same rally, Giuliani urged “trial by combat” on Trump’s claims that he was the genuine winner.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/07/capitol-riots-probe-trump-giuliani-456272


    But ignoring these pro-unity, pro-healing, pro reconciliation words that came out day after above speech:

    U.S President Donald Trump addresses the nation via Twitter
    January 8, 2021
    I'd like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol. Like all Americans, I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem.
    I immediately deployed the National Guard and the federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders. America is and must always be a nation of law and order.
    The demonstrators who infiltrated the capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engaged in the acts of violence and destruction, you do not represent our country.
    And to those who broke the law, you will pay.
    We have just been through an intense election, and the emotions are high. But now tempers must be cooled and calm restored.
    And a new administration will be inaugurated on January 20.
    My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth, orderly and seamless transition of power. This moment calls for healing and reconciliation. 2020 has been a challenging time for our people.
    Trump calls for national unity, patriotism and healing


    There was a report on Drudge suggesting that some people being arrested after riot could claim "President told them to do so" defense. This matter for legal eagles.


    But this is where MAGA could potentially get in trouble, if the guys who took items from Pelosi office/Capitol building claimed that a sitting biblical President had inspired them to think that it was ok to "take things that didn't belong to them":

    Thug Life Inspiration
    Words uttered:
    Trump speech before the DC riot Jan 6, 2021:
    Remember I used to say in the old days, “Don’t go into Iraq. But if you go in, keep the oil.” We didn’t keep the oil. So stupid. So stupid, these people. And Iraq has billions and billions of dollars now in the bank. And what did we do? We get nothing. We never get.

    Words not uttered explicitly:
    "Don't go into Capitol building but if you go in, take the lectern"

    Man accused of stealing Speaker's lectern charged





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    So why didn't he march down Pennsylvania Avenue with them?
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    So why didn't he march down Pennsylvania Avenue with them?
    Leading from behind can be problematic:

    "Trump was supposed to march with MAGA rally crowd he motivated to "fight like hell" but ended up staying behind for some reason; this situation may have been avoided had he led from the front instead of trying to lead from behind."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The end of what?
    The end of Trump's speech, and the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danda View Post
    at 1:10:30.

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    You should have included the sentence right before that one.

    We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated. I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Leading from behind can be problematic:

    "Trump was supposed to march with MAGA rally crowd he motivated to "fight like hell" but ended up staying behind for some reason; this situation may have been avoided had he led from the front instead of trying to lead from behind."
    Maybe he heard the speech of Mo Brooks (a true scumbag and traitor to his oath), who said "Today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass" and figured he didn't want to be in the middle of a riot.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

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    Narrative. The media owns the narrative. They dictate the narrative.

    The mindless sheep eat it up and don't question where they're being led.
    Welcome to the R3VOLUTION!

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    What happened in the video at 18:12?

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    He can word for word repeat what he said at the rally in the witness stand at his second impeachment trial. 50/50 odds. Flip a coin.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Maybe he heard the speech of Mo Brooks ... who said "Today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass" and figured he didn't want to be in the middle of a riot.
    To be fair, he has explained his point of view already but MSM is not giving it much coverage:

    Congressman Mo Brooks REFUSES to apologize for encouraging 'American patriots' to 'take down names and kick ass' in Trump's rally before MAGA mob stormed US Capitol and says he was talking about a DONKEY

    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130413/Mo-Brooks-REFUSES-apologize-urging-patriots-names-kick-ass-riot.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    The end of what?
    our civilization. rather than B.C verses A.D ...we are now

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    The Honorable Morris Brooks (R-AL) has no reason to apologize.

    After all we are talking about the stealing of a presidential election and the right of 80,000,000 Americans to have their grievances redressed by spineless nutless congresscritters.

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    The ones who listened to his speech would not have had time to make it to the Capitol building at the time of the penetration.
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    Pfizer Macht Frei!

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    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    The ones who listened to his speech would not have had time to make it to the Capitol building at the time of the penetration.
    Had they listened to the complete speech, yes. Which suggests they met online, were a flash mob
    who utilized the ELIPSE as public area to connect up, and then got the idea to do that mile and a half
    walk OLE ANDY JOHNSON would have been very familiar with. Let alone most of our other presidents.
    This suggests the core group of plotters had a gameplan at the ready, as they all traveled to D.C given
    that they did not live there. Were they followers of Leon Trotsky? Tea Party people? Nazis? Antifa???
    Neo*Nazis? Stalinists? KKK people? Weather Underground? Or does the tidy label matter? It all got
    Trump impeached again. The seat of our federal gov't has troops aplenty...now. Duckies, please don't
    go there. Lets just hope for the best. D.C = Zoo. It may eventually settle down, SLEEPY JOE gets sleepy.

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    If you told me I would be getting video lessons on government false flags from Giulliani ten years ago, I would have said you are full of $#@!.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aratus View Post
    Had they listened to the complete speech, yes. Which suggests they met online, were a flash mob
    who utilized the ELIPSE as public area to connect up, and then got the idea to do that mile and a half
    walk OLE ANDY JOHNSON would have been very familiar with. Let alone most of our other presidents.
    This suggests the core group of plotters had a gameplan at the ready, as they all traveled to D.C given
    that they did not live there. Were they followers of Leon Trotsky? Tea Party people? Nazis? Antifa???
    Neo*Nazis? Stalinists? KKK people? Weather Underground? Or does the tidy label matter? It all got
    Trump impeached again. The seat of our federal gov't has troops aplenty...now. Duckies, please don't
    go there. Lets just hope for the best. D.C = Zoo. It may eventually settle down, SLEEPY JOE gets sleepy.
    Try to follow along :


    Quote Originally Posted by danda View Post
    The end of Trump's speech, and the video.
    Pfizer Macht Frei!

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    Quiz: Test Your "Income" Tax IQ!

    Short Income Tax Video

    The Income Tax Is An Excise, And Excise Taxes Are Privilege Taxes

    The Federalist Papers, No. 15:

    Except as to the rule of appointment, the United States have an indefinite discretion to make requisitions for men and money; but they have no authority to raise either by regulations extending to the individual citizens of America.



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    i did.... i placed the full text of the Riot Act of 1715 online here.... twice.

    i know what i said about A.J's 1868 impeachment trial, the farce ole Newtie G whipped up in 1999 on Bill Clinton
    and why Donald John Trump was unwise to question the deeds wily ole Mitch has done for him over the past 4 to 5
    years. Luv... Trump went swamp. Mitch wants him as a distraction. Joe Biden has young Democrats who are sore
    torn! They can either get bills passed. Or they can all crucify Donald John Trump on a Cross of Gold on public TV.


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    Bryan’s “Cross of Gold” Speech: Mesmerizing the Masses
    The most famous speech in American political history was delivered by William Jennings Bryan on July 9, 1896, at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago. The issue was whether to endorse the free coinage of silver at a ratio of silver to gold of 16 to 1. (This inflationary measure would have increased the amount of money in circulation and aided cash-poor and debt-burdened farmers.) After speeches on the subject by several U.S. Senators, Bryan rose to speak. The thirty-six-year-old former Congressman from Nebraska aspired to be the Democratic nominee for president, and he had been skillfully, but quietly, building support for himself among the delegates. His dramatic speaking style and rhetoric roused the crowd to a frenzy. The response, wrote one reporter, “came like one great burst of artillery.” Men and women screamed and waved their hats and canes. “Some,” wrote another reporter, “like demented things, divested themselves of their coats and flung them high in the air.” The next day the convention nominated Bryan for President on the fifth ballot. The full text of William Jenning Bryan’s famous “Cross of Gold” speech appears below. The audio portion is an excerpt. [Note on the recording: In 1896 recording technology was in its infancy, and recording a political convention would have been impossible. But in the early 20th century, the fame of Bryan’s “Cross of Gold” speech led him to repeat it numerous times on the Chautauqua lecture circuit where he was an enormously popular speaker. In 1921 (25 years after the original speech), he recorded portions of the speech for Gennett Records in Richmond, Indiana. Although the recording does not capture the power and drama of the original address, it does allow us to hear Bryan delivering this famous speech.]

    WILLIAM JENNINGs BRYAN

    I would be presumptuous, indeed, to present myself against the distinguished gentlemen to whom you have listened if this were but a measuring of ability; but this is not a contest among persons. The humblest citizen in all the land when clad in the armor of a righteous cause is stronger than all the whole hosts of error that they can bring. I come to speak to you in defense of a cause as holy as the cause of liberty—the cause of humanity. When this debate is concluded, a motion will be made to lay upon the table the resolution offered in commendation of the administration and also the resolution in condemnation of the administration. I shall object to bringing this question down to a level of persons. The individual is but an atom; he is born, he acts, he dies; but principles are eternal; and this has been a contest of principle.

    Never before in the history of this country has there been witnessed such a contest as that through which we have passed. Never before in the history of American politics has a great issue been fought out as this issue has been by the voters themselves.

    On the 4th of March, 1895, a few Democrats, most of them members of Congress, issued an address to the Democrats of the nation asserting that the money question was the paramount issue of the hour; asserting also the right of a majority of the Democratic Party to control the position of the party on this paramount issue; concluding with the request that all believers in free coinage of silver in the Democratic Party should organize and take charge of and control the policy of the Democratic Party. Three months later, at Memphis, an organization was perfected, and the silver Democrats went forth openly and boldly and courageously proclaiming their belief and declaring that if successful they would crystallize in a platform the declaration which they had made; and then began the conflict with a zeal approaching the zeal which inspired the crusaders who followed Peter the Hermit. Our silver Democrats went forth from victory unto victory, until they are assembled now, not to discuss, not to debate, but to enter up the judgment rendered by the plain people of this country.

    But in this contest, brother has been arrayed against brother, and father against son. The warmest ties of love and acquaintance and association have been disregarded. Old leaders have been cast aside when they refused to give expression to the sentiments of those whom they would lead, and new leaders have sprung up to give direction to this cause of freedom. Thus has the contest been waged, and we have assembled here under as binding and solemn instructions as were ever fastened upon the representatives of a people.

    We do not come as individuals. Why, as individuals we might have been glad to compliment the gentleman from New York [Senator Hill], but we knew that the people for whom we speak would never be willing to put him in a position where he could thwart the will of the Democratic Party. I say it was not a question of persons; it was a question of principle; and it is not with gladness, my friends, that we find ourselves brought into conflict with those who are now arrayed on the other side. The gentleman who just preceded me [Governor Russell] spoke of the old state of Massachusetts. Let me assure him that not one person in all this convention entertains the least hostility to the people of the state of Massachusetts.

    But we stand here representing people who are the equals before the law of the largest cities in the state of Massachusetts. When you come before us and tell us that we shall disturb your business interests, we reply that you have disturbed our business interests by your action. We say to you that you have made too limited in its application the definition of a businessman. The man who is employed for wages is as much a businessman as his employer. The attorney in a country town is as much a businessman as the corporation counsel in a great metropolis. The merchant at the crossroads store is as much a businessman as the merchant of New York. The farmer who goes forth in the morning and toils all day, begins in the spring and toils all summer, and by the application of brain and muscle to the natural resources of this country creates wealth, is as much a businessman as the man who goes upon the Board of Trade and bets upon the price of grain. The miners who go 1,000 feet into the earth or climb 2,000 feet upon the cliffs and bring forth from their hiding places the precious metals to be poured in the channels of trade are as much businessmen as the few financial magnates who in a backroom corner the money of the world.

    We come to speak for this broader class of businessmen. Ah. my friends, we say not one word against those who live upon the Atlantic Coast; but those hardy pioneers who braved all the dangers of the wilderness, who have made the desert to blossom as the rose—those pioneers away out there, rearing their children near to nature’s heart, where they can mingle their voices with the voices of the birds—out there where they have erected schoolhouses for the education of their children and churches where they praise their Creator, and the cemeteries where sleep the ashes of their dead—are as deserving of the consideration of this party as any people in this country.

    It is for these that we speak. We do not come as aggressors. Our war is not a war of conquest. We are fighting in the defense of our homes, our families, and posterity. We have petitioned, and our petitions have been scorned. We have entreated, and our entreaties have been disregarded. We have begged, and they have mocked when our calamity came.

    We beg no longer; we entreat no more; we petition no more. We defy them!

    The gentleman from Wisconsin has said he fears a Robespierre. My friend, in this land of the free you need fear no tyrant who will spring up from among the people. What we need is an Andrew Jackson to stand as Jackson stood, against the encroachments of aggregated wealth.

    They tell us that this platform was made to catch votes. We reply to them that changing conditions make new issues; that the principles upon which rest Democracy are as everlasting as the hills; but that they must be applied to new conditions as they arise. Conditions have arisen and we are attempting to meet those conditions. They tell us that the income tax ought not to be brought in here; that is not a new idea. They criticize us for our criticism of the Supreme Court of the United States. My friends, we have made no criticism. We have simply called attention to what you know. If you want criticisms, read the dissenting opinions of the Court. That will give you criticisms.

    They say we passed an unconstitutional law. I deny it. The income tax was not unconstitutional when it was passed. It was not unconstitutional when it went before the Supreme Court for the first time. It did not become unconstitutional until one judge changed his mind; and we cannot be expected to know when a judge will change his mind.

    The income tax is a just law. It simply intends to put the burdens of government justly upon the backs of the people. I am in favor of an income tax. When I find a man who is not willing to pay his share of the burden of the government which protects him, I find a man who is unworthy to enjoy the blessings of a government like ours.

    He says that we are opposing the national bank currency. It is true. If you will read what Thomas Benton said, you will find that he said that in searching history he could find but one parallel to Andrew Jackson. That was Cicero, who destroyed the conspiracies of Cataline and saved Rome. He did for Rome what Jackson did when he destroyed the bank conspiracy and saved America.

    We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government. We believe it. We believe it is a part of sovereignty and can no more with safety be delegated to private individuals than can the power to make penal statutes or levy laws for taxation.

    Mr. Jefferson, who was once regarded as good Democratic authority, seems to have a different opinion from the gentleman who has addressed us on the part of the minority. Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business.

    They complain about the plank which declares against the life tenure in office. They have tried to strain it to mean that which it does not mean. What we oppose in that plank is the life tenure that is being built up in Washington which establishes an office-holding class and excludes from participation in the benefits the humbler members of our society. . . .

    Let me call attention to two or three great things. The gentleman from New York says that he will propose an amendment providing that this change in our law shall not affect contracts which, according to the present laws, are made payable in gold. But if he means to say that we cannot change our monetary system without protecting those who have loaned money before the change was made, I want to ask him where, in law or in morals, he can find authority for not protecting the debtors when the act of 1873 was passed when he now insists that we must protect the creditor. He says he also wants to amend this platform so as to provide that if we fail to maintain the parity within a year that we will then suspend the coinage of silver. We reply that when we advocate a thing which we believe will be successful we are not compelled to raise a doubt as to our own sincerity by trying to show what we will do if we are wrong.

    I ask him, if he will apply his logic to us, why he does not apply it to himself. He says that he wants this country to try to secure an international agreement. Why doesn’t he tell us what he is going to do if they fail to secure an international agreement. There is more reason for him to do that than for us to expect to fail to maintain the parity. They have tried for thirty years—thirty years—to secure an international agreement, and those are waiting for it most patiently who don’t want it at all.

    Now, my friends, let me come to the great paramount issue. If they ask us here why it is we say more on the money question than we say upon the tariff question, I reply that if protection has slain its thousands the gold standard has slain its tens of thousands. If they ask us why we did not embody all these things in our platform which we believe, we reply to them that when we have restored the money of the Constitution, all other necessary reforms will be possible, and that until that is done there is no reform that can be accomplished.

    Why is it that within three months such a change has come over the sentiments of the country? Three months ago, when it was confidently asserted that those who believed in the gold standard would frame our platforms and nominate our candidates, even the advocates of the gold standard did not think that we could elect a President; but they had good reasons for the suspicion, because there is scarcely a state here today asking for the gold standard that is not within the absolute control of the Republican Party.

    But note the change. Mr. McKinley was nominated at St. Louis upon a platform that declared for the maintenance of the gold standard until it should be changed into bimetallism by an international agreement. Mr. McKinley was the most popular man among the Republicans ; and everybody three months ago in the Republican Party prophesied his election. How is it today? Why, that man who used to boast that he looked like Napoleon, that man shudders today when he thinks that he was nominated on the anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo. Not only that, but as he listens he can hear with ever increasing distinctness the sound of the waves as they beat upon the lonely shores of St. Helena.

    Why this change? Ah, my friends. is not the change evident to anyone who will look at the matter? It is because no private character, however pure, no personal popularity, however great, can protect from the avenging wrath of an indignant people the man who will either declare that he is in favor of fastening the gold standard upon this people, or who is willing to surrender the right of self-government and place legislative control in the hands of foreign potentates and powers. . . .

    We go forth confident that we shall win. Why? Because upon the paramount issue in this campaign there is not a spot of ground upon which the enemy will dare to challenge battle. Why, if they tell us that the gold standard is a good thing, we point to their platform and tell them that their platform pledges the party to get rid of a gold standard and substitute bimetallism. If the gold standard is a good thing, why try to get rid of it? If the gold standard, and I might call your attention to the fact that some of the very people who are in this convention today and who tell you that we ought to declare in favor of international bimetallism and thereby declare that the gold standard is wrong and that the principles of bimetallism are better—these very people four months ago were open and avowed advocates of the gold standard and telling us that we could not legislate two metals together even with all the world.

    I want to suggest this truth, that if the gold standard is a good thing we ought to declare in favor of its retention and not in favor of abandoning it; and if the gold standard is a bad thing, why should we wait until some other nations are willing to help us to let it go?

    Here is the line of battle. We care not upon which issue they force the fight. We are prepared to meet them on either issue or on both. If they tell us that the gold standard is the standard of civilization, we reply to them that this, the most enlightened of all nations of the earth, has never declared for a gold standard, and both the parties this year are declaring against it. If the gold standard is the standard of civilization, why, my friends, should we not have it? So if they come to meet us on that, we can present the history of our nation. More than that, we can tell them this, that they will search the pages of history in vain to find a single instance in which the common people of any land ever declared themselves in favor of a gold standard. They can find where the holders of fixed investments have.

    Mr. Carlisle said in 1878 that this was a struggle between the idle holders of idle capital and the struggling masses who produce the wealth and pay the taxes of the country; and my friends, it is simply a question that we shall decide upon which side shall the Democratic Party fight. Upon the side of the idle holders of idle capital, or upon the side of the struggling masses? That is the question that the party must answer first; and then it must be answered by each individual hereafter. The sympathies of the Democratic Party, as described by the platform, are on the side of the struggling masses, who have ever been the foundation of the Democratic Party.

    There are two ideas of government. There are those who believe that if you just legislate to make the well-to-do prosperous, that their prosperity will leak through on those below. The Democratic idea has been that if you legislate to make the masses prosperous their prosperity will find its way up and through every class that rests upon it.

    You come to us and tell us that the great cities are in favor of the gold standard. I tell you that the great cities rest upon these broad and fertile prairies. Burn down your cities and leave our farms, and your cities will spring up again as if by magic. But destroy our farms and the grass will grow in the streets of every city in the country.

    My friends, we shall declare that this nation is able to legislate for its own people on every question without waiting for the aid or consent of any other nation on earth, and upon that issue we expect to carry every single state in the Union.

    I shall not slander the fair state of Massachusetts nor the state of New York by saying that when citizens are confronted with the proposition, “Is this nation able to attend to its own business?”—I will not slander either one by saying that the people of those states will declare our helpless impotency as a nation to attend to our own business. It is the issue of 1776 over again. Our ancestors, when but 3 million, had the courage to declare their political independence of every other nation upon earth. Shall we, their descendants, when we have grown to 70 million, declare that we are less independent than our forefathers? No, my friends, it will never be the judgment of this people. Therefore, we care not upon what lines the battle is fought. If they say bimetallism is good but we cannot have it till some nation helps us, we reply that, instead of having a gold standard because England has, we shall restore bimetallism, and then let England have bimetallism because the United States have.

    If they dare to come out in the open field and defend the gold standard as a good thing, we shall fight them to the uttermost, having behind us the producing masses of the nation and the world. Having behind us the commercial interests and the laboring interests and all the toiling masses, we shall answer their demands for a gold standard by saying to them, you shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns. You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.

    Source: Official Proceedings of the Democratic National Convention Held in Chicago, Illinois, July 7, 8, 9, 10, and 11, 1896, (Logansport, Indiana, 1896), 226–234. Reprinted in The Annals of America, Vol. 12, 1895–1904: Populism, Imperialism, and Reform (Chicago: Encyclopedia Britannica, Inc., 1968), 100–105.

    See Also:"I Am a Democrat and not a Revolutionist": Senator David Bennett Hill Defends the Gold Standard
    "Pitchfork Ben" Tillman Addresses the 1896 Democratic Convention
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  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    To be fair, he has explained his point of view already but MSM is not giving it much coverage:

    Congressman Mo Brooks REFUSES to apologize for encouraging 'American patriots' to 'take down names and kick ass' in Trump's rally before MAGA mob stormed US Capitol and says he was talking about a DONKEY

    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9130413/Mo-Brooks-REFUSES-apologize-urging-patriots-names-kick-ass-riot.html
    If Brooks' followers are gullible enough to believe all the lies about a "stolen election", they're probably gullible enough to believe he was referring to a donkey. Seriously, that's an unbelievably pathetic attempt by Brooks to cover his butt.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

  31. #27

  32. #28

    Supreme Court partly to blame for the Jan. 6th trouble at the Save America March

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The Honorable Morris Brooks (R-AL) has no reason to apologize.

    After all we are talking about the stealing of a presidential election and the right of 80,000,000 Americans to have their grievances redressed by spineless nutless congresscritters.
    More importantly, our Supreme Court spitting in the face of 76 million Americans and 18 States by refusing to do its job and grant an evidentiary hearing of the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT which itemized illegal voting practices in a number of States that blatantly violated Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, of the United States Constitution, and the Fourteenth Amendment’s due process and equal protection clauses of the U.S. Constitution.

    Why is our Supreme Court not being pointed to for its part in causing anger and helping to incite 76 million people who merely wanted their day in Court and a redress of grievances addressed?

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.

  33. #29
    Exactly

    In California Motor Transport Co vs Trucking Unlimited (1972) the miserable scumbags ruled that the purpose of Article III courts is to prevent violence by peacefully settling disputes.

    How soon the POS forget. !!!!!!!!!

  34. #30

    Supreme Court should share in the blame for the Jan. 6th trouble on Capitol Hill

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Exactly

    In California Motor Transport Co vs Trucking Unlimited (1972) the miserable scumbags ruled that the purpose of Article III courts is to prevent violence by peacefully settling disputes.

    How soon the POS forget. !!!!!!!!!
    Well, when they have a socialist/fascist Fifth Column media to cover for them, one can understand how soon they forget what our Constitution is designed to protect against.


    JWK


    "If the Constitution was ratified under the belief, sedulously propagated on all sides that such protection was afforded, would it not now be a fraud upon the whole people to give a different construction to its powers?"
    ___ Justice Story



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