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    Gear up. Mike Rowe 2024. Even if we have to hog-tie him.

    Mike Rowe

    Off the WallLouis Warfield writes...
    Is this what you have to say about today? Is this what you say to Americans? Is this how you dismiss an insurrection? Is this what you think of the death of an ignorant mislead woman who left children behind because of lies and deceit by Trump? Is this what you say when a sitting president encourages people to march on the Capitol with his insanity? I used to really admire you, I used to want to be like you, hell I used to want to be you...Now? I can't even look at you.
    Louis Warfield.

    Hi there, Louis.
    First of all, Happy New Year, and congratulations on not becoming me. Doing so would have forced you into a body you can’t bear to look at, and that, my friend, is no way to go through life! Secondly, no - my last post was not a “Message to America.” It was just a bit of world-weary sarcasm I shared with six million friends who follow this page - friends who, like me, were no doubt hoping the new year would usher in a kinder, gentler age.

    Obviously, our optimism was premature, so I shared an ironic acknowledgment of the undeniable fact that 2020 was still with us. Since then, I’ve been struggling to get my head around what’s happening in our country, but since you asked, these are my current thoughts, six days in.

    In short, I was nauseated by what I saw on Wednesday. Nauseated, in the same way I was last summer, when I watched another group of anarchists try to burn down a federal courthouse with government workers still inside. Not since then, have I felt such a sadness for my country. My sympathies to the family of Brian Sicknick, the officer who died in the attack, along with the other cops who were injured in the riot. Condolences too, to the family of the woman who was shot, and the families of all the others who died on that day. So much senseless and completely avoidable death.

    To state the obvious, Louis, I think President Trump was wrong to wait so long to react to the chaos. I can’t excuse what he said or justify the time it took him to condemn the individuals who entered the Capitol illegally. The whole thing was irresponsible. No less obvious, is the critical distinction that must be made between those who marched to the Capitol, and those who broke into it. The overwhelming majority of Americans who rallied in DC didn’t break the law. Neither did the overwhelming majority of Americans who marched in the wake of George Floyd’s death. There’s a bright line between a protest and a riot, and I strongly disagree with those who have attempted to blur that line, then and now. As for the future, I think it’s wishful thinking to assume that our country will come together when Donald Trump is no longer president. The morning after he leaves office, whenever that may be, millions of Americans will wake up believing our country is systemically racist. Millions of others will wake up believing we can no longer hold a free and fair election. This is the essential problem, Louis, because a house divided, as you may recall, cannot stand.

    The way forward is difficult, and hugely complicated by a crisis of credibility. Lots of worried Americans, including many who don’t support Trump, have lost their faith in the institutions we rely on to tell us the truth - most notably, the mainstream media. This has been the case for some time, but now it feels different. Now, the patina of fake news has covered everything with a sheen of doubt and suspicion. Politics, science, law, medicine, academia…experts from every discipline are subject to new levels of skepticism, in part, because those experts hold forth on platforms that are no longer credible to half the country.

    How many friends do you have who dismiss anything they hear on FOX, simply because it’s on FOX? Likewise, CNN? I have many. That’s why we can’t blame millions of Americans for dismissing the academic studies that contradict their belief that racism in law enforcement is systemic; they simply don’t trust the studies. Nor can we blame millions of other Americans for dismissing the findings of multiple courts who say the election wasn’t fraudulent; they simply don’t trust the courts. This level of mistrust is the real enemy, and I’m afraid it’s about to get a lot worse.

    According to the exit polls I read, a lot of Americans who voted for Biden weren’t voting for the Democratic agenda; they were simply voting against Trump. Likewise, a lot of Trump voters had grave concerns about the President, but voted for him anyway, because they had graver concerns about the policies that Pelosi and Schumer have been promising to enact. I’m not saying Trump doesn’t have a lot of ardent supporters. Clearly, he does.
    I’m just saying that a divided republic is a lot safer with a divided government. The deeper the divide, the more important the balance of power.
    Well, we now have the deepest divide since 1860, and one party is about to hold all the cards. In other words, the Democrats have a lot of power, but nothing close to a mandate from a significant majority. That’s worrisome, because Biden will be under incredible pressure from his own base to enact a lot of very controversial policies, because “elections have consequences.” But that old chestnut won’t go over well with millions of Americans, especially those who believe the election was fundamentally unjust. And as we saw over the summer, when people believe something is fundamentally unjust, the wheels come off the bus pretty quick.

    Complicating matters even further, is a new level of censorship in our country unlike anything I’ve ever witnessed. As we all know, the President has been banned from Facebook and Twitter. Kind of amazing, but if that’s all there was to it, I imagine that many Americans would shrug and say, “Oh well, he had it coming.” But banning Trump seems to have opened the floodgates. Simon & Schuster just cancelled a book deal with Josh Hawley, a conservative senator. The reasons appear to be purely political. The editor of Forbes has just “warned” companies not to hire Trump supporters.
    Other big corporations have followed suit. And now, two conservative social platforms, Parler and Rumble, have been dropped by Apple and Amazon.

    This is extraordinary. Parler had 20 million members yesterday. Today, those people learned they can no longer talk to each other on their platform of choice. Whatever else these actions might accomplish, they're absolutely going to reinforce the perception among millions of Americans that Big Tech and the mainstream media are now in lockstep with the new administration - not only to silence Trump, but to silence them. And that, as my grandmother used to say, will go over like a fart in church.

    I don’t have the answers, Louis, nor do I have a crystal ball. But I can promise you that banishing people from platforms, or banishing platforms from people, or deliberately cutting off the way millions of people communicate is not the way forward. What we need in a divided country, is more communication, not less. And if we can’t talk to each other, how can we ever hope to come together? Consider your own post, and your own trenchant questions. I could have easily deleted them. They were kinda nasty, after all, and on this page, I have the option to delete comments I don’t like. I never do that though, (porn notwithstanding,) because silencing people who don’t like me isn’t productive. Nor is it effective. Nor is it interesting.

    That’s why I responded to you, Louis, and that’s why I’m worried – sincerely and genuinely worried – that trying to silence millions of Americans at such a tumultuous time is going to have some consequences that are both serious, and unintended. That’s why I’m choosing my words carefully, doubling down on the bourbon, while once again wishing you and yours, a very happy, 2022.

    Good luck,
    Mike
    https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMike...51327418210705



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    Admire Mike Rowe a great deal and wish him all the best.

    But the time for his calm reasonableness, wit and wry Mark Twain-esque commentary have long past.

    Louis's response to him confirms that. He states an opposing view, and he is now sub human. Given the chance she'd vote to have him killed...or at least "re-educated" to think right.

    Today I was informed that, without going into great detail, that I am now long term unemployed, as a direct result of market forces reacting to what this Marxist mob has claimed they are planning to do to domestic oil production.

    I cannot take solace and comfort with fellowship of others at my church, because free assembly and freedom of religion has been revoked due to executive orders and fatwas. First Amendment? Never $#@!ing heard of it.

    The ex-head of the government's primary media organ, PBS, is exposed on tape, stating that my children or grandchildren should be taken away from our home and sent to "re-education" camps.

    Biden has appointed an avowed black supremacist, Kirsten Clarke, to the DOJ as Director of the Civil Rights division. Among her written quotes: "Melanin endows Blacks with greater mental, physical and spiritual abilities — something which cannot be measured based on Eurocentric standards.”

    That's just scratching the surface of the whirlwind that is descending.

    The time for talk is over.

    Fight, with a vigor, meanness, tenacity and will ten times that of anything we've read in the history books....or this is our future:

    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

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    I am kind of surprised to see this keep coming up here. There was a time where people would reject TV personalities for public office.

    First we had people wanting Mitt Romney for his hair and that he looked Presidential, then Trump and now we have people wanting an actor since they falsely believe the persona he plays on TV is him and that he will magically govern as a Conservative.

    I said this before here that the elites appear to be choosing him and setting the narrative. A Hollywood star telling people on the right what they want to hear and a fixture from FOX News.

    If it is from Hollywood or is associated with FOX News or any of the elites news networks you do not want that candidate representing you. Actors, act. You are being played again.
    Last edited by kahless; 01-13-2021 at 01:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Admire Mike Rowe a great deal and wish him all the best.

    But the time for his calm reasonableness, wit and wry Mark Twain-esque commentary have long past.

    Louis's response to him confirms that. He states an opposing view, and he is now sub human. Given the chance she'd vote to have him killed...or at least "re-educated" to think right.

    Today I was informed that, without going into great detail, that I am now long term unemployed, as a direct result of market forces reacting to what this Marxist mob has claimed they are planning to do to domestic oil production.

    I cannot take solace and comfort with fellowship of others at my church, because free assembly and freedom of religion has been revoked due to executive orders and fatwas. First Amendment? Never $#@!ing heard of it.

    The ex-head of the government's primary media organ, PBS, is exposed on tape, stating that my children or grandchildren should be taken away from our home and sent to "re-education" camps.

    Biden has appointed an avowed black supremacist, Kirsten Clarke, to the DOJ as Director of the Civil Rights division. Among her written quotes: "Melanin endows Blacks with greater mental, physical and spiritual abilities — something which cannot be measured based on Eurocentric standards.”

    That's just scratching the surface of the whirlwind that is descending.

    The time for talk is over.

    Fight, with a vigor, meanness, tenacity and will ten times that of anything we've read in the history books....or this is our future:

    I'm sure Mike would put you back to work. If elected. Probably do a State of the Union on your, now working, ship.

    I'm just saying that IF, possibly, which we both know there is no way, a middle-ground, Mike could pull it off. He eats detractors in a way that you simply can't disagree with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I am kind of surprised to see this keep coming up here. There was a time where people would reject TV personalities for public office.

    First we had people wanting Mitt Romney for his hair and that he looked Presidential, then Trump and now we have people wanting an actor since they falsely believe the persona he plays on TV is him and that he will magically govern as a Conservative.

    I said this before here that the elites appear to be choosing him and setting the narrative. A Hollywood star telling people on the right what they want to hear and a fixture from FOX News.

    If it is from Hollywood or is associated with FOX News or any of the elites news networks you do not want that candidate representing you. Actors, act. You are being played again.
    You're a $#@!ing idiot. Mike's never aspired to politics. Indeed, if you read his FB page, totally denounces it. It's a "Dirty Job" that he repeatedly has said he doesn't aspire to. Mike has done a hell of a lot for the trades. Does mikeroweworks fundraising for trade school individuals. Never seen a major globalist blast money into his enterprise.

    Don't know where your coming from but it's bull$#@!.

    Edit: Oh no wait. I know where you're coming from. It'd suck for an honest man to be in the position of POTUS. You couldn't stand that.
    Last edited by phill4paul; 01-13-2021 at 01:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    You're a $#@!ing idiot. Mike's never aspired to politics. Indeed, if you read his FB page, totally denounces it. It's a "Dirty Job" that he repeatedly has said he doesn't aspire to. Mike has done a hell of a lot for the trades. Does mikeroweworks fundraising for trade school individuals. Never seen a major globalist blast money into his enterprise.

    Don't know where your coming from but it's bull$#@!.

    Edit: Oh no wait. I know where you're coming from. It'd suck for an honest man to be in the position of POTUS. You couldn't stand that.
    You call me an idiot yet it is you that is lapping up some TV show personality bull$#@! as being real. As if they do not contrive that kind of humble background knowing that morons like you lap it up. "he has never aspired", yet it is clear they have been building it up for suckers like you for awhile now. A narrative set by the elites from an actor playing a role that you know nothing about.

    I want an honest man as POTUS so I want someone outside of the elites sphere of influence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    You call me an idiot yet it is you that is lapping up some TV show personality bull$#@! as being real. As if they do not contrive that kind of humble background knowing that morons like you lap it up. "he has never aspired", yet it is clear they have been building it up for suckers like you for awhile now. A narrative set by the elites from an actor playing a role that you know nothing about.

    I want an honest man as POTUS so I want someone outside of the elites sphere of influence.
    $#@!ing Christ. Yes, Good Lawd, that Mike Rowe was created by globalists. Created by globalists to ensnare the common man into believing that a higher power, say Awoman!, put him forth.

    Dude, just shut the $#@! up. Is it so hard to accept that someone is just who they are and have never deviated from being? Of course it is. Unless you are just throwing F.U.D. Because you are a dip$#@! that is afraid of another, possible, populist that might derail the global agenda.

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    Mike is too nice for D.C.

    Dude tries to get along with everybody and would probably not survive the ordeal.

    It's going to have to be someone with the attitude of Trump but with better policies.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nobody's_hero View Post
    Mike is too nice for D.C.

    Dude tries to get along with everybody and would probably not survive the ordeal.

    It's going to have to be someone with the attitude of Trump but with better policies.
    It's almost impossible. People with reasonable policies tend to be... well.. reasonable.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Mike will have no chance of getting elected since he'll get cheated out of the nomination. Even if he did make it to the general election, the Democrats will just cheat him.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    More Hollywood created celebrities who get their paychecks from media conglomerates? Meh.
    "Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul

    "We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book

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    Who are we kidding? This last election WAS OUR LAST. EVER.
    1776 > 1984

    The FAILURE of the United States Government to operate and maintain an
    Honest Money System , which frees the ordinary man from the clutches of the money manipulators, is the single largest contributing factor to the World's current Economic Crisis.

    The Elimination of Privacy is the Architecture of Genocide

    Belief, Money, and Violence are the three ways all people are controlled

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    Our central bank is not privately owned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    It's almost impossible. People with reasonable policies tend to be... well.. reasonable.
    Reasonable isn't the word for it.

    We're not "reasonable." We're timid, to the point of it actually being unreasonable. It's like getting pummeled in the face with brass knuckles and if we hold our arms up to block it, or God forbid push back against our attackers, we're made to feel ashamed.
    Quote Originally Posted by timosman View Post
    This is getting silly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    It started silly.
    T.S. Eliot's The Hollow Men

    "One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors." - Plato

    We Are Running Out of Time - Mini Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Philhelm
    I part ways with "libertarianism" when it transitions from ideology grounded in logic into self-defeating autism for the sake of ideological purity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    $#@!ing Christ. Yes, Good Lawd, that Mike Rowe was created by globalists. Created by globalists to ensnare the common man into believing that a higher power, say Awoman!, put him forth.

    Dude, just shut the $#@! up. Is it so hard to accept that someone is just who they are and have never deviated from being? Of course it is. Unless you are just throwing F.U.D. Because you are a dip$#@! that is afraid of another, possible, populist that might derail the global agenda.
    The dip$#@! is someone who derives their opinion of someone completely from watching TV, defending them whole heartedly while having no $#@!ing clue what their real beliefs are in real life or being stupid enough to believe what they are presented on TV is actually the beliefs of said person. I will leave it at that.

    So no thank you, I will pass on that. But you should go ahead and keep believing the people and narratives force fed to you by the elites if you think that is going to work for you.

    btw - I would welcome an anti-globalist populist from outside the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Mike will have no chance of getting elected since he'll get cheated out of the nomination. Even if he did make it to the general election, the Democrats will just cheat him.
    Completely unrelated to my last post I think he has a few things working against him for the Republican nomination. An internet search used to reveal he was gay. Not so much now but if true it would likely make it difficult for him to achieve the nomination. Jewish background? Again, might be a problem getting the Republican nomination.

    However I think the elites have done a great job setting up a narrative for him years to advance to appeal to the working class. So maybe the thinking is he could win the primary and lose in the general. Who knows.

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    Reported AF for inciting violence.
    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
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    Our first priority must be to defend the integrity of elections. For that, any tenable candidate must recognize and oppose that massive election fraud. which occurred beyond reasonable doubt. It is strongly indicated that it changed the outcome of the 2020 election.


    For this reason, judging this message of his, Mike Rowe is untenable as a candidate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike
    Nor can we blame millions of other Americans for dismissing the findings of multiple courts who say the election wasn’t fraudulent; they simply don’t trust the courts. This level of mistrust is the real enemy
    Generally courts did not evaluate the fraud, claiming lack of standing. The mistrust is not the enemy. It is the falsely placed trust which is the enemy. Above all, I would say misplaced trust in the mass media and degree of reliability of courts.
    Last edited by Nalteb; 01-14-2021 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    The dip$#@! is someone who derives their opinion of someone completely from watching TV, defending them whole heartedly while having no $#@!ing clue what their real beliefs are in real life or being stupid enough to believe what they are presented on TV is actually the beliefs of said person. I will leave it at that.

    So no thank you, I will pass on that. But you should go ahead and keep believing the people and narratives force fed to you by the elites if you think that is going to work for you.

    btw - I would welcome an anti-globalist populist from outside the club.
    Mike often posts his political views and has been doing so for quite some time. Dip$#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Mike often posts his political views and has been doing so for quite some time. Dip$#@!.
    When you have a chance, take your head out of Mike's ass, go back and read closely what what I posted. I actually like the persona he plays and the narrative. This has nothing to do with these public comments about blue collar work which I agree with.

    If you are too stupid to see what I am saying because I knocked your boy of a pedestal and cannot accept it, here is one you can put him back up on.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTexan View Post
    Reported AF for inciting violence.
    Another mark of a tyrant is that he likes foreigners better than citizens, and lives with them and invites them to his table; for the one are enemies, but the Others enter into no rivalry with him. - Aristotle's Politics Book 5 Part 11

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    Blargh.....
    You didn't knock $#@! off dick. Thanks for playing.

  25. #22
    I like Mike

    Don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows

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    Quote Originally Posted by kahless View Post
    I am kind of surprised to see this keep coming up here.
    Where The Stupid is concerned, nothing should surprise you.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.

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    Maybe if Mr. Rowe wasn't "doubling down on the bourbon", as he ends his response with,
    he could understand why social media needs to be cleaned up. How much fake news and threats
    are to be allowed ? Of course it cuts both ways. The fake right and the fake left are both brain rot.
    Only lemmings and simpletons see solutions in Trump or the Democrats.



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    Originally Posted by phill4paul
    You're a $#@!ing idiot. Mike's never aspired to politics. Indeed, if you read his FB page, totally denounces it. It's a "Dirty Job" that he repeatedly has said he doesn't aspire to. Mike has done a hell of a lot for the trades. Does mikeroweworks fundraising for trade school individuals. Never seen a major globalist blast money into his enterprise.

    Don't know where your coming from but it's bull$#@!.

    Edit: Oh no wait. I know where you're coming from. It'd suck for an honest man to be in the position of POTUS. You couldn't stand that.



    You call me an idiot yet it is you that is lapping up some TV show personality bull$#@! as being real. As if they do not contrive that kind of humble background knowing that morons like you lap it up. "he has never aspired", yet it is clear they have been building it up for suckers like you for awhile now. A narrative set by the elites from an actor playing a role that you know nothing about.

    I want an honest man as POTUS so I want someone outside of the elites sphere of influence.
    And this, ladies and gents, is why the left is winning and is just this side of closing the deal for good.

    No matter what, they suck each others' dicks. The value of cohesion is difficult to overstate.

    The so-called "liberty movement" doesn't even rate as a joke. Talk is all they do, and they don't even stand by each other, but pick and bitch and insult each other, usually on points of stupid purity. And so here we stand, four days from the end of life as we knew it, the changes all for the worse.

    Good job. We should all be very proud of ourselves, especially when the left starts in on us on 1/21... if they even wait that long.
    freedomisobvious.blogspot.com

    There is only one correct way: freedom. All other solutions are non-solutions.

    It appears that artificial intelligence is at least slightly superior to natural stupidity.

    Our words make us the ghosts that we are.

    Convincing the world he didn't exist was the Devil's second greatest trick; the first was convincing us that God didn't exist.



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