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    If blame is to be assigned for the Jan. 6th protest, our S.C. should top the list

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    When our Supreme Court refused to give the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT an evidentiary hearing ___ a complaint which listed and detailed illegal election activities in four States ___ it effectively rejected that State’s right, and the people of the United States right, to a redress of grievances guaranteed by our Constitution.


    Keep in mind the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction in this matter, and refusing to take up the case and at the very least hear and rule on the arguments, our Supreme Court left 18 States, and 75 million citizens of the United States, with no one left to adjudicate the numerous election violations listed in the Bill of Complaint, and thus were denied a fundamental right to a redress of grievances.


    I sincerely suspect had the Supreme Court did its job, and hear the Texas case and ruled upon its particulars, the vast majority of Trump’s 75 million voters would have accepted the court’s ruling and moved on.


    Where, I ask, are the people to go, when the Supreme Court’s door is slammed in their face?


    I think it’s time to at least put some blame, if not most of the blame, on the Supreme Court of the United States which I believe neglected its duty and engaged in nonfeasance and/or malfeasance in a time of great need.

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.



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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
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    When our Supreme Court refused to give the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT an evidentiary hearing ___ a complaint which listed and detailed illegal election activities in four States ___ it effectively rejected that State’s right, and the people of the United States right, to a redress of grievances guaranteed by our Constitution.


    Keep in mind the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction in this matter, and refusing to take up the case and at the very least hear and rule on the arguments, our Supreme Court left 18 States, and 75 million citizens of the United States, with no one left to adjudicate the numerous election violations listed in the Bill of Complaint, and thus were denied a fundamental right to a redress of grievances.


    I sincerely suspect had the Supreme Court did its job, and hear the Texas case and ruled upon its particulars, the vast majority of Trump’s 75 million voters would have accepted the court’s ruling and moved on.


    Where, I ask, are the people to go, when the Supreme Court’s door is slammed in their face?


    I think it’s time to at least put some blame, if not most of the blame, on the Supreme Court of the United States which I believe neglected its duty and engaged in nonfeasance and/or malfeasance in a time of great need.

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.
    this was always about orchestrating a coup within the fake "coup". the 117th congress actually executed a coup on the U.S. Constitution and replaced it with court supremacy, governor supremacy...and basically destroyed all state legislatures.

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    Has Justice Roberts joined the cancel culture?

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    Unfortunately, it appears that Justice Roberts has joined the cancel culture and told 18 states and 76 million citizens of the United States to go pound sand when it refused to give an evidentiary hearing to the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.

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    No, it was Donald Trump's fault for egging on mentally unstable followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No, it was Donald Trump's fault for egging on mentally unstable followers.


    The truth is, Roberts refused to hear the Texas lawsuit joined in by 17 other states, and refused to hear the grievances of 76 million American Citizens.

    Now tell me, was MLK not correct in saying the following:





    Indeed, MLK was spot on when he said . . . "A riot is the language of the unheard". – MLK

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No, it was Donald Trump's fault for egging on mentally unstable followers.
    It's definitely his fault that he's not supporting them now as they are being rounded up and the neo-fascists are salivating over the prospect of denying due process to MAGA by labeling anyone who supports them as domestic terrorists.

    Where is Trump now? Why no address? No speech?
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No, it was Donald Trump's fault for egging on mentally unstable followers.
    This is a leftist talking point

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
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    Unfortunately, it appears that Justice Roberts has joined the cancel culture and told 18 states and 76 million citizens of the United States to go pound sand when it refused to give an evidentiary hearing to the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT
    Why single out Roberts? Six other Justices, including 3 Trump appointees, didn't want to hear the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Why single out Roberts? Six other Justices, including 3 Trump appointees, didn't want to hear the case.

    Maybe because he is chief justice or maybe because they have him on tape saying he is going to make sure Trump doesn't get re-elected.

    The thing is enough people in this country question the election results especially the people of the swing states and tech experts who say they can prove the numbers are wrong that the SC should have been able to find grounds. there voices should matter they are paying for at least half and maybe more of the bill for all this crap. I wonder who of the republicans and democrats are paying the most taxes? Their voices should matter the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    It's definitely his fault that he's not supporting them now as they are being rounded up and the neo-fascists are salivating over the prospect of denying due process to MAGA by labeling anyone who supports them as domestic terrorists.

    Where is Trump now? Why no address? No speech?
    The only ones being rounded up are the few that followed the Original Provoketeurs,, and were seen and Identified..

    The most Visible and first Identified are not being Perp Walked.

    Curious,,,
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    It was a political question. Imo SC was right to bounce it.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No, it was Donald Trump's fault for egging on mentally unstable followers.
    Phuck Off right there..








    And Phuck off some more.
    Last edited by pcosmar; 01-11-2021 at 12:25 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    The only ones being rounded up are the few that followed the Original Provoketeurs,, and were seen and Identified..

    The most Visible and first Identified are not being Perp Walked.

    Curious,,,
    I very much get the feeling Trump got Oswald'ed in this.

    His handlers and buddies on the MAGA train build this up to be "protecting Kennedy" (our Republic).

    He didn't know about the provocateurs in the grassy knoll, and that it was all a setup.
    When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble?
    When disaster comes to a city, has not the Lord caused it? Amos 3:6

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    Quote Originally Posted by tfurrh View Post
    It was a political question. Imo SC was right to bounce it.
    Absolutely incorrect. It was a question of law! See the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    Absolutely incorrect. It was a question of law! See the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT

    JWK
    Oh that's right....you guys have been right about everything. My bad.
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by wizardwatson View Post
    It's definitely his fault that he's not supporting them now as they are being rounded up and the neo-fascists are salivating over the prospect of denying due process to MAGA by labeling anyone who supports them as domestic terrorists.

    Where is Trump now? Why no address? No speech?
    He threw them all under the bus once he was told that he could be criminally liable for their actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    This is a leftist talking point
    Maybe so, doesn't mean it's wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Phuck Off right there..
    Antifa isn't any better. They are also criminal scumbags, just follow a different fuhrer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    Absolutely incorrect. It was a question of law! See the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT[FONT=Helvetica]
    And part of the law is the issue of standing. 7 and perhaps all 9 Justices were of the opinion that Texas had no standing to complain about other States' alleged failure to comply with their own election laws (although AG Paxton didn't seem concerned about allegations that Texas didn't comply with its own). The case could also have been dismissed on the ground of undue delay (laches).

    Filed the day before the safe-harbor deadline, the case was nothing more than an 11th hour stunt by an AG seeking Trump's favor (and perhaps a possible pardon). The case was so flimsy that the Texas Solicitor General declined to sign on.
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    S.C. members wrongly assert Texas and 76 million Citizens have no standing

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    And part of the law is the issue of standing. 7 and perhaps all 9 Justices were of the opinion that Texas had no standing to complain about other States'

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    In answer to your post, members on our Supreme Court have aided domestic Revolutionaries in undermining the sanctity of our federal election process and our very system of government!

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    There is no question in the minds of honorable people, that our Supreme Court members not only spat upon our Constitution, but also spat upon 18 States and 76 million people when they refused to give an evidentiary hearing, listen to sworn witnesses, evaluate evidence, and provide a remedy for a redress of grievances they, and only they, have original jurisdiction over.

    For members of our Supreme Court to allege that corruption of a federal election in one state, as distinguished from a local election in that state, does not cause an actual cognizable injury or threat to the remaining states, and to the people of those states, is to falsely assert that the corruption in one state is not a threat and direct assault upon, and injury to, our democratic system of government and its rule of law, and thus, a cognizable injury to the United States and the law abiding and freedom loving people thereof.

    Indeed! The corruption of a federal election in one state is without question an assault and cognizable injury upon the entire United States, her citizens, and their very system of government.

    As succinctly stated by a Justice of our Supreme Court, when acts of corruption infect a federal electoral process in one state "they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain" ___ Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941).

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
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    When our Supreme Court refused to give the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT an evidentiary hearing ___ a complaint which listed and detailed illegal election activities in four States ___ it effectively rejected that State’s right, and the people of the United States right, to a redress of grievances guaranteed by our Constitution.


    Keep in mind the Supreme Court has original jurisdiction in this matter, and refusing to take up the case and at the very least hear and rule on the arguments, our Supreme Court left 18 States, and 75 million citizens of the United States, with no one left to adjudicate the numerous election violations listed in the Bill of Complaint, and thus were denied a fundamental right to a redress of grievances.


    I sincerely suspect had the Supreme Court did its job, and hear the Texas case and ruled upon its particulars, the vast majority of Trump’s 75 million voters would have accepted the court’s ruling and moved on.


    Where, I ask, are the people to go, when the Supreme Court’s door is slammed in their face?


    I think it’s time to at least put some blame, if not most of the blame, on the Supreme Court of the United States which I believe neglected its duty and engaged in nonfeasance and/or malfeasance in a time of great need.

    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.
    Absolutely.

    SCOTUS is populated by nutless, spineless, corrupt scoundrels.



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    Understanding the Supreme Court’s decision in Texas’ election suit

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Absolutely.

    SCOTUS is populated by nutless, spineless, corrupt scoundrels.



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    And backed up by their underlings! See: Understanding the Supreme Court’s decision in Texas’ election suit






    Former Judge Kevin S. Burke

    Retired Judge Burke, in his desire to condone the undermining of our federal elections in which a number of States engaged in corrupted election practices, quotes Wyoming Republican Gov. Mark Gordon as succinctly saying, “The relief that Texas seeks would undermine a foundational premise of our federalist system: the idea that states are sovereigns, free to govern themselves. The courts have no more business ordering the People’s representatives how to choose their electors than they do ordering the People how to choose their dinners.”



    Of course, both Burke and Gov. Gordon suspiciously ignore that our federal Constitution does indeed provide a number of agreed upon orders with respect to federal elections. Aside from the order contained in the “Elector’s clause” of our Constitution, that “Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress …” etc., see e.g.:



    Our Constitution by its 14th Amendment provides a penalty for an abridgement of the right to vote, making an abridgement federally protected.



    By our Constitution’s 15th Amendment, the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.



    By the 19th Amendment the right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.



    By the 24th Amendment the right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reasons of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax.



    And by the 26th Amendment, the right of citizens of the United States, who are 18 years of age or older, to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of age.



    And so, both Burke and Gov. Gordon’s assertion, that “The courts have no more business ordering the People’s representatives how to choose their electors than they do ordering the People how to choose their dinners”, is a gross misrepresentation of our nation’s rule of law.



    So, what actually constitutes an abridgement of the right to vote, with respect to a federal election? That is the fundamental question to be answered ___ a question which our Supreme Court refused to address when failing to give an evidentiary hearing to the Texas BILL OF COMPLAINT



    If a State’s employees who count federal election results are free to count illegal ballots _ ballots which do not meet the State’s adopted voting requirements and restrictions _ would that constitute an “abridgement” of the federally protected right to vote? The answer to this question is an obvious resounding ‘Yes”, as each illegal ballot counted in a state would in effect cancel out other Citizen’s legally casts ballots in that State, and thus be an infringement.



    But there is a more important observation concerning the allowance by a state to engage in illegal and corrupted voting practices with respect to federal elections, as distinguished from elections which a local. Allowing Illegal voting practices and corruption with regard to federal elections in one state, or a number of states, creates a cognizable injury and threat to the remaining states and to our very democratic system of government!



    Indeed! The corruption of a federal election in one state is without question an assault and cognizable injury upon the entire United States, her democratic system of government, and her citizens.



    As succinctly stated by a Justice of our Supreme Court _ when acts of corruption infect a federal electoral process in one state "they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain" _ Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941).



    Former Justice Burke, as witnessed by his absurd commentary, is an indication of how shallow minded thinking is eroding the rule of law and the miracle created by our Founding Fathers.





    JWK



    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.

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    Riots that happened were like a picnic if compared to the riots that would have taken place had the election been overturned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Riots that happened were like a picnic if compared to the riots that would have taken place had the election been overturned.
    The difference being that the media and Democrats would be leading that coup attempt (aka insurrection).
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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No, it was Donald Trump's fault for egging on mentally unstable followers.
    "MENTALLY UNSTABLE FOLLOWERS"

    So I take that you will be recommending that psychiatry become a tool of the state

    Cuban Psychiatry --- The Perversion of Medicine

    Miguel A. Faria, Jr., MD


    The Politics of Psychiatry graphically documents that the totalitarian government of Cuba has used (and continues to use) psychiatry for political purposes --- in this case, political repression, the crushing of dissent, and establishing conformity within the political structure and populace of the island prison which communist Cuba has sadly become.



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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Riots that happened were like a picnic if compared to the riots that would have taken place had the election been overturned.
    And? Are you suggesting it is worthwhile that the Supreme Court surrendered to or joined the communist/socialist revolutionaries, who most definitely participated in illegal vote activities mentioned in the Texas Bill of Complaint?

    JWK


    They are neither “liberal”, “progressive” nor are they Republican or Democrat Leaders. They are notoriously evil Socialist Revolutionaries and Globalists who continue to use government force to steal and then enjoy the property which America’s labor, business and investors have worked to create.
    Last edited by johnwk; 01-20-2021 at 09:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    And? Are you suggesting it is worthwhile that the Supreme Court surrendered or joined the communist/socialist revolutionaries, who most definitely participated in illegal vote activities mentioned in the Texas Bill of Complaint?

    JWK


    They are neither “liberal”, “progressive” nor are they Republican or Democrat Leaders. They are notoriously evil Socialist Revolutionaries and Globalists who continue to use government force to steal and then enjoy the property which America’s labor, business and investors have worked to create.
    Nope. I was just making a point that the left would have Rioted beyond anything we have yet to see on this soil had the election been awarded to the true Victor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Nope. I was just making a point that the left would have Rioted beyond anything we have yet to see on this soil had the election been awarded to the true Victor.
    I appreciate your speculation. Now, why did you offer that speculation?


    JWK

    When our federal judicial system ignores our written Constitution and assents to legislative acts contrary to our supreme law of the land, it not only opens the door to anarchy, but participates in such treachery.

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    Pennsylvania abridged the voting rights of citizens in other States

    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    No, it was Donald Trump's fault for egging on mentally unstable followers.
    So, you ignore the fact that the election was rigged?


    Let us look at the facts.

    Electors are chosen by a popular vote of the people.

    If a state’s employees, e.g., in Pennsylvania, violate the State’s Constitution and corrupt the electoral process by introducing a million illegal ballots in a federal electoral process with the intention of favoring a particular candidate, not only has that State’s voters’ right to vote been abridged, but the illegal activity has corrupted the federal electoral process for voters across the nation who have cast ballots in accordance with the rule of law


    Elevating a particular candidate in one state by illegal methods is most certainly an abridgement of the right to vote of people in others states whose legal votes are rendered meaningless, and diminished by the amount of illegal ballots counted in another state.[1]


    As succinctly stated by Justice Douglas eighty years ago, when acts of corruption infect a federal electoral process in one state "they transcend mere local concern and extend a contaminating influence into the national domain" ___ Justice DOUGLAS in United States v. Classic (1941)".

    [1] NOTE: Over 1 million illegal no-excuse mail in ballots were counted in PA’s election results.


    JWK


    When it comes to healthcare and helping the needy, our socialist Democrat Party Leadership has no moral compass whatsoever. They refuse to make the distinction between CHARITABLE GIVING and tax tyranny to support the health care needs of millions of illegal entrants and foreign aliens.
    Last edited by johnwk; 01-23-2021 at 09:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    Elevating a particular candidate in one state by illegal methods is most certainly an abridgement of the right to vote of people in others states whose legal votes are rendered meaningless, and diminished by the amount of illegal ballots counted in another state.
    Bilge. A voter in Illinois has the right to vote for electors in Illinois but has no right to vote for electors in Georgia. His vote in Illinois isn't rendered meaningless or diminished by anything that happens in Georgia because if his vote is properly counted in Illinois that's all he's entitled to.

    You might as well allow California to sue Texas in the Supreme Court alleging that Texas's voter ID law violates equal protection and therefore damages CA or its citizens.

    And you can cite Douglas's dictum fom now until doomsday but it will always remain dictum, nothing more.

    Quote Originally Posted by johnwk View Post
    If a state’s employees, e.g., in Pennsylvania, violate the State’s Constitution and corrupt the electoral process by introducing a million illegal ballots in a federal electoral process with the intention of favoring a particular candidate
    Are you oblivious to the fact that the PA no-excuse mail-in voting procedure was enacted by a GOP-controlled legislature in 2019? Or that the act required any constitutional challenge to be brought within 180 days (which didn't happen)?
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Bilge. A voter in Illinois has the right to vote for electors in Illinois but has no right to vote for electors in Georgia. His vote in Illinois isn't rendered meaningless or diminished by anything that happens in Georgia because if his vote is properly counted in Illinois that's all he's entitled to.


    And what does that have to do with what I posted?

    JWK

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