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    Exclamation These are hard times and it is time for hard truths.

    Calling the Marquess of Queensberry

    https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021...of-queensbery/

    By eric - January 9, 2021

    As bad as Facebook and Twitter, et al are, “conservative” talk radio “is much worse.

    Without exception, the hosts urge civility and acceptance. Like the rest of Conservatism, Inc.

    Which is why conservatives lose.

    They do not understand the nature of a fight. They imagine it to be a gentlemanly affair, no low blows and such. The problem being that in a fight like this one, there are no rules.

    Assuming you don’t want to lose.

    Trump is losing – almost lost entirely and us along with him – because he pinned his hopes on fair play with people who fight dirty. He apparently believes, almost like a not-bright child, that his adducing of evidence about illegalities matters when all that matters is what the Germans call macht – power, applied.

    The use of any means necessary to win.

    The left understands macht.

    They are prepared to act – and do so . . . while conservatives talk.

    And then, submit.

    We wake up to find that not only has Trump been silenced – his Twitter and Facebook accounts frozen or locked or whatever the term is – so have ours. Or so they will be. Because Trump has done nothing. He hasn’t issued an executive order rescinding section 230 – which the Authoritative Sources have been using to avoid being responsible as publishers for anything while claiming the status of publishers and suppressing everything.

    Anything not approved by the Authoritative Sources – about to become very authoritative, indeed – will not only be silenced it may well be prosecuted.

    Expect some extremely authoritative executive orders regarding your soon-to-be-ex right to keep and bear arms.

    The left is not $#@!ing around. The left never $#@!s around.

    Which is why the left wins.

    Leftists governors seized upon weaponized hypochondria to not merely to crush the economy but to control all economic activity. They used it to crush the spirit of the population, now largely walking around willingly with Holy Rags over their faces, the outward expression of their submission.

    A few brave individuals aside, what did politically organized conservatism – i.e., the Republican Party – do about it, other than amen it?

    What did they do about these leftist politicians who used The Terror to organize mass absentee balloting?

    Now they want a “count” – after the fact.

    They pathetically expected the courts to hear them. They actually believed they would be allowed to make their case and that the process – cue the Marquees of Queensberry and his rules for gentlemanly pugilism – would carry the day.

    It’s as laughable as it is tragic.

    And now these losers urge – among other things – that Trump have a nice sit-down with his replacement to exchange civilities and that the rest of us should simply carry on. Be sure to call your representative! Urge him to vote . . .

    This is a recipe for more losing.

    Everyone who opposes the left should understand the left. Ought to read its various bibles, including Rules for Radicals, which contains their recipes for eye-gouging and kicking in the balls.

    You do not “cross the aisle” to “work with” such people, who are your mortal enemies and (per the Terminator) absolutely will not stop, ever…

    Until they win.

    And for them, winning means everything. Total control. No dissent. Absolute obedience.

    One fights like a gentleman with such people like one coos to a rattlesnake.

    These are hard times and it is time for hard truths.

    People – decent people – recoil from them precisely because they are decent people.

    It is hard for them to imagine. Better start.

    Decent people despise violence and will do practically anything to avoid it. They just want to live – and let live. They want to raise their kids and go to work and be left alone, so long as they play by the rules – and when the rules are reasonable, this is feasible.

    But what happens when there are no rules? Or when the only rule is – do as we tell you, shut up and sit down?

    Do you imagine that the people who just silenced Trump (as well as other prominent supporters of Trump) are not going to silence everyone as soon as they formally posses the macht to do so?

    And more?

    Idiots believe they can vote themselves out of slavery. And slavery is the apt word for “House” you-know-what conservatives who believe precisely that. They probably believe the chains won’t be laid upon their shoulders, so long as dey be good boys and such. This is the thinking of people like opponents of Lenin who walked out of the Russian Duma (the legislature) in protest of the tactics and actions of the communist thugs led by Vladimir Ilyich.

    Who, of course, won – because his opponents had no idea who they were up against and for that reason lost.

    So did an entire country and hundreds of millions of people.

    The same applies in our here and now. We have a dwindling moment to understand what we are up against and fight – by their rules – which is the only way we don’t lose everything.

    It’s not nice, but neither are they.
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee



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    US Military seized control ‎of Vatican ‎satellites used in Dominion voter fraud Part II

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    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
    "dumpster diving isn't professional." - angelatc
    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

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    Conservative talk radio urges civility? Since when?
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    They [us] do not understand the nature of a fight.


    Trump is losing – almost lost entirely and us along with him – because he [and we libertarians] pinned his hopes on fair play with people who fight dirty.

    The use of any means necessary to win.

    This applies to RPF. The paid communist trolls here blatantly lie. They put the words "supporting member" under their avatar. They discuss fake Ron Paul meet-ups. They pretend support for the Pauls. They deceive.

    And what happens? The paid trolls are not only tolerated here, but they are welcomed here! Why? Because some want the commie news fed to them with convenient links here. Because we stupidly insist on "getting the other point of view." Because we foolishly get sucked into their "debate" instead of calling out their trolling and making them the issue.

    You might think this insignificant, but I see these people on other sites. On one site, they actually use a program to interfere with the site. They use a program to delete all opposing content and to move opposing threads to obscure sub-forums.

    Someone is paying these people on sites around the world. And what do we do? We sit here like cucks, arguing with them and feeding their pay. If we're afraid to get kicked off a measly site for calling them out, then that's pitiful. I call out these dirty bastards at every turn. TheCount is paid to post here. Sonny Tufts is paid to post here. PRB is paid to post here. There are several dozens others. This is fact. I am not speculating.

    The issue is bigger than high school debate. If we can't even respond here, then we get overrun in the real world. Libertarians have become a passive joke who take it in the ass. Stop taking it in the ass.
    Last edited by NorthCarolinaLiberty; 01-10-2021 at 01:06 AM.
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    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Calling the Marquess of Queensberry


    It’s not nice, but neither are they.
    Rules.
    there ain't none..

    or prison Rules?,,
    since this is now the main Yard..
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Conservative talk radio urges civility? Since when?
    Since I have been Getting Firearm Silencer Ads in my Facebook Feed.
    Seriously

    They are deliberately targeting ads for "questionable items" to a Prohibited Person..

    and you can't be ignorant enough to think that is accidental.

    you would have never found this place,if you were that damned ignorant.

    I would assume you need a base intelligence to get hired to Troll..

    I can work with a Base intelligence. Please prove you are not that low on a sentient scale.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Eric gets it.

    One can be a good man or a good leader but not both. Good leaders possess in equal measure all of the good and negative traits of humanity, using the latter as a weapon against their enemies while possessing the wisdom to not use it against those in their care. Good men will not demonstrate what they regard as immoral behavior as they will not suffer spiritual impurities.

    Good leaders are needed to create the environment in which good men can thrive and cultivate a healthy civilization. Now is the time for good leaders to defend liberty so that good men can thrive under their aegis.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Conservative talk radio urges civility? Since when?
    Have you EVER listened to a MINUTE of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthCarolinaLiberty View Post
    This applies to RPF. The paid communist trolls here blatantly lie. They put the words "supporting member" under their avatar. They discuss fake Ron Paul meet-ups. They pretend support for the Pauls. They deceive.

    And what happens? The paid trolls are not only tolerated here, but they are welcomed here! Why? Because some want the commie news fed to them with convenient links here. Because we stupidly insist on "getting the other point of view." Because we foolishly get sucked into their "debate" instead of calling out their trolling and making them the issue.

    You might think this insignificant, but I see these people on other sites. On one site, they actually use a program to interfere with the site. They use a program to delete all opposing content and to move opposing threads to obscure sub-forums.

    Someone is paying these people on sites around the world. And what do we do? We sit here like cucks, arguing with them and feeding their pay. If we're afraid to get kicked off a measly site for calling them out, then that's pitiful. I call out these dirty bastards at every turn. TheCount is paid to post here. Sonny Tufts is paid to post here. PRB is paid to post here. There are several dozens others. This is fact. I am not speculating.

    The issue is bigger than high school debate. If we can't even respond here, then we get overrun in the real world. Libertarians have become a passive joke who take it in the ass. Stop taking it in the ass.
    Erectile Dysfunction got banned, so there is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Erectile Dysfunction got banned, so there is that.
    I'll be damned.

    What finally prompted that?
    “Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder.” - Arnold Toynbee

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Conservative talk radio urges civility? Since when?
    Didn't Rush recently suggest he thought civil conflict or secession was unavoidable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    US Military seized control ‎of Vatican ‎satellites used in Dominion voter fraud Part II

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    Great interview by the way

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    I wish we could go totally private throw out everyone who is not a liberty person and not even let public read our forum. I would pay a monthly or yearly fee in order to be able to keep it private here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I wish we could go totally private throw out everyone who is not a liberty person and not even let public read our forum. I would pay a monthly or yearly fee in order to be able to keep it private here.
    by which process would you deem a person acceptable to join such a forum?

    It has always been an issue in all societies.. Moles..

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    I’ve always enjoyed this site & talking about liberty & identifying those against it.

    Went away for a awhile & when I came back was very disappointed that there was so many moles & time wasted arguing with them.

    Love to see some major housekeeping



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Calling the Marquess of Queensberry

    https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2021...of-queensbery/

    By eric - January 9, 2021

    As bad as Facebook and Twitter, et al are, “conservative” talk radio “is much worse.

    Without exception, the hosts urge civility and acceptance. Like the rest of Conservatism, Inc.

    Which is why conservatives lose.

    They do not understand the nature of a fight. They imagine it to be a gentlemanly affair, no low blows and such. The problem being that in a fight like this one, there are no rules.

    Assuming you don’t want to lose.

    Trump is losing – almost lost entirely and us along with him – because he pinned his hopes on fair play with people who fight dirty. He apparently believes, almost like a not-bright child, that his adducing of evidence about illegalities matters when all that matters is what the Germans call macht – power, applied.

    The use of any means necessary to win.

    The left understands macht.

    They are prepared to act – and do so . . . while conservatives talk.

    And then, submit.

    We wake up to find that not only has Trump been silenced – his Twitter and Facebook accounts frozen or locked or whatever the term is – so have ours. Or so they will be. Because Trump has done nothing. He hasn’t issued an executive order rescinding section 230 – which the Authoritative Sources have been using to avoid being responsible as publishers for anything while claiming the status of publishers and suppressing everything.

    Anything not approved by the Authoritative Sources – about to become very authoritative, indeed – will not only be silenced it may well be prosecuted.

    Expect some extremely authoritative executive orders regarding your soon-to-be-ex right to keep and bear arms.

    The left is not $#@!ing around. The left never $#@!s around.

    Which is why the left wins.

    Leftists governors seized upon weaponized hypochondria to not merely to crush the economy but to control all economic activity. They used it to crush the spirit of the population, now largely walking around willingly with Holy Rags over their faces, the outward expression of their submission.

    A few brave individuals aside, what did politically organized conservatism – i.e., the Republican Party – do about it, other than amen it?

    What did they do about these leftist politicians who used The Terror to organize mass absentee balloting?

    Now they want a “count” – after the fact.

    They pathetically expected the courts to hear them. They actually believed they would be allowed to make their case and that the process – cue the Marquees of Queensberry and his rules for gentlemanly pugilism – would carry the day.

    It’s as laughable as it is tragic.

    And now these losers urge – among other things – that Trump have a nice sit-down with his replacement to exchange civilities and that the rest of us should simply carry on. Be sure to call your representative! Urge him to vote . . .

    This is a recipe for more losing.

    Everyone who opposes the left should understand the left. Ought to read its various bibles, including Rules for Radicals, which contains their recipes for eye-gouging and kicking in the balls.

    You do not “cross the aisle” to “work with” such people, who are your mortal enemies and (per the Terminator) absolutely will not stop, ever…

    Until they win.

    And for them, winning means everything. Total control. No dissent. Absolute obedience.

    One fights like a gentleman with such people like one coos to a rattlesnake.

    These are hard times and it is time for hard truths.

    People – decent people – recoil from them precisely because they are decent people.

    It is hard for them to imagine. Better start.

    Decent people despise violence and will do practically anything to avoid it. They just want to live – and let live. They want to raise their kids and go to work and be left alone, so long as they play by the rules – and when the rules are reasonable, this is feasible.

    But what happens when there are no rules? Or when the only rule is – do as we tell you, shut up and sit down?

    Do you imagine that the people who just silenced Trump (as well as other prominent supporters of Trump) are not going to silence everyone as soon as they formally posses the macht to do so?

    And more?

    Idiots believe they can vote themselves out of slavery. And slavery is the apt word for “House” you-know-what conservatives who believe precisely that. They probably believe the chains won’t be laid upon their shoulders, so long as dey be good boys and such. This is the thinking of people like opponents of Lenin who walked out of the Russian Duma (the legislature) in protest of the tactics and actions of the communist thugs led by Vladimir Ilyich.

    Who, of course, won – because his opponents had no idea who they were up against and for that reason lost.

    So did an entire country and hundreds of millions of people.

    The same applies in our here and now. We have a dwindling moment to understand what we are up against and fight – by their rules – which is the only way we don’t lose everything.

    It’s not nice, but neither are they.
    Replace Left with Ruling Class Parasites & Right with Common Men and Women and I agree with this assessment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Working Poor View Post
    I wish we could go totally private throw out everyone who is not a liberty person and not even let public read our forum. I would pay a monthly or yearly fee in order to be able to keep it private here.
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    "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" - Sam Adams

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    Time to start stooping to the level of the left. It's the only way we're ever going to get things done. Acting above the fray has done more harm than good.
    Last edited by Anti Globalist; 01-10-2021 at 09:02 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordan View Post
    It has always been an issue in all societies.. Moles..
    While I understand the frustration with the noise inserting itself into the signal, I'd much rather have it there than the illusion that the signal is pure and uncompromised. The thing about active jamming is that it gives away the position of the source if not the intent. If there is no noise then you end up chasing holes in the water, because you know the enemy is still out there.



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    Quote Originally Posted by VIDEODROME View Post
    Didn't Rush recently suggest he thought civil conflict or secession was unavoidable?
    Not really. What he suggested was that people should "unite and win" (i.e., vote harder for Republicans) in order to avoid civil conflict or secession.

    And when the usual pissers and moaners freaked out over the mere mention of secession, he predictably chickened out.

    (IOW: Just the usual establishment sheepherder stuff. Can't risk people wandering off the Cathedral grounds, after all ...)
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