$2000 stimulus checks/gov shutdown: Who will fold, GOP nay sayers or Prez Trump?

[enhanced_deficit]

Gov shutdown on Monday if Prez Trump does not sign latest $900B bill with various stimuli including $600 stimulus checks for the people. However Prez Trump has taken a bold stand and is demanding $2000 stimulus checks that are being opposed by so called GOP anti-socialsim nay sayers in Congress.
Who will fold, GOP nay sayers or Prez Trump?

During last gummit shutdown, Prez Trump sort of got played by Congress and ended up folding then that had led to social media "always folds" , FLAT (folds like a tent) narratives. Trump has another opportunity to finally set the record straight and establish himself as a steadfast leader if he forced the other side to fold this time.





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Bigger gov stimulus payments to help people: GOP=1 , AOC+Trump = 0
But this is just round 1 , GOP anti-socialism nay syaers may have won the first battle but team Trump + AOC libs have not lost the war when it comes to government helping people by sending them more money:

House GOP kills bid for $2,000 stimulus checks
Thu December 24, 2020
(CNN) The House of Representatives on Thursday failed to advance a measure that would increase direct payments to Americans under a certain income level to $2,000 -- up from the $600 level passed earlier this week -- bringing lawmakers back to square one as they search for a way to appease President Donald Trump's demands.

[Anti Globalist]

I'd rather we don't give people $2000 stimulus checks and allow them to go back to work since having a job is the best kind of stimulus.

[Snowball]

Senate won't fold. Biden is coming in less than a month.

Trump, he folds or it goes pocket veto.

Nobody cares what he says anymore.

[jon4liberty]

I'd rather we don't give people $2000 stimulus checks and allow them to go back to work since having a job is the best kind of stimulus.

The government shouldn't have shut the economy down. However they did shut it down. Hence why the people and businesses need compensated.

[69360]

They will just wait until Biden is president. It's less than a month. They will just do a temporary funding bill in the meantime to avoid a shutdown.

[CaptUSA]

Always take the over when dealing with government.

I don't know who folds politically, but eventually, in one way or another, it will be bigger than can you ever imagine, right now.

[Contumacious]

Gov shutdown on Monday if Prez Trump does not sign latest $900B bill with various stimuli including $600 stimulus checks for the people. However Prez Trump has taken a bold stand and is demanding $2000 stimulus checks that are being opposed by so called GOP anti-socialsim nay sayers in Congress.
Who will fold, GOP nay sayers or Prez Trump?

During last gummit shutdown, Prez Trump sort of got played by Congress and ended up folding then that had led to social media "always folds" , FLAT (folds like a tent) narratives. Trump has another opportunity to finally set the record straight and establish himself as a steadfast leader if he forced the other side to fold this time.





Related

Bigger gov stimulus payments to help people: GOP=1 , AOC+Trump = 0
But this is just round 1 , GOP anti-socialism nay syaers may have won the first battle but team Trump + AOC libs have not lost the war when it comes to government helping people by sending them more money:

House GOP kills bid for $2,000 stimulus checks
Thu December 24, 2020
(CNN) The House of Representatives on Thursday failed to advance a measure that would increase direct payments to Americans under a certain income level to $2,000 -- up from the $600 level passed earlier this week -- bringing lawmakers back to square one as they search for a way to appease President Donald Trump's demands.

This is NOT welfare nor a stimulus payment.

This is COMPENSATION for the tanking the economy, causing 40,000,000 Americans to be unemployed and the destruction of thousands of businesses.



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[CaptUSA]

This is NOT welfare nor a stimulus payment.

This is COMPENSATION for the tanking the economy, causing 40,000,000 Americans to be unemployed and the destruction of thousands of businesses.



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That's great. Too bad the children of the future, whose wealth we're stealing to pay for this, didn't get a vote. I'm sure they'd probably tell us to pay for our own problems and hold our government accountable for their mistakes instead of holding them accountable. They haven't even been born, yet!

[PAF]

This is NOT welfare nor a stimulus payment.

This is COMPENSATION for the tanking the economy, causing 40,000,000 Americans to be unemployed and the destruction of thousands of businesses.



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It is Bribe Money.

If Globalist Funding was not in the bill, there would be no bill at all. Thieves don’t steal then voluntarily return money to rightful owners.

Bill Gates was promised money by Trump and admitted to such conversation.

That's great. Too bad the children of the future, whose wealth we're stealing to pay for this, didn't get a vote. I'm sure they'd probably tell us to pay for our own problems and hold our government accountable for their mistakes instead of holding them accountable. They haven't even been born, yet!

Correct. But, thinking about it, today’s Common Core children won’t bat an eye... they will probably be thankful for the Globalist agenda.

[Contumacious]

CaptUSA

Concur. This is a catch22 situation.

You have the Gargantuan Deep State engaged in Biowarfare and perpetrating a color revolution to remove a sitting President . And causing serious economic damage in the process. Those folks must be compensated.

We have a huge budget deficit - $24 Trillions - we shouldn’t be adding more money to the national debt.

The US is fast becoming California. And what are we doing , sending a California politician Kamala Harris to the White House. We are f u c k e d.

[enhanced_deficit]

Wow, Keef is winner of this thread.

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TRUMP BLUFF:
SIGNS COVID BAILOUT

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — President Donald Trump signed a $900 billion pandemic relief package Sunday, ending days of drama over his refusal to accept the bipartisan deal that will deliver long-sought cash to businesses and individuals and avert a federal government shutdown.
The massive bill includes $1.4 trillion to fund government agencies through September and contains other end-of-session priorities such as an increase in food stamp benefits.
The signing, at his private club in Florida, came amid escalating criticism over his eleventh-hour demands for larger, $2,000 relief checks and scaled-back spending even though the bill had already passed the House and Senate by wide margins. The bill was passed with what lawmakers had thought was Trump’s blessing, and after months of negotiations with his administration.

His foot-dragging resulted in a lapse in unemployment benefits for millions struggling to make ends meet and threatened a government shutdown in the midst of a pandemic.. But signing the bill into law prevents another crisis of Trump’s own creation and ends a standoff with his own party during the final days of his administration.

It was unclear what, if anything, Trump accomplished with his delay, beyond angering all sides and empowering Democrats to continue their push for higher relief checks, which his own party opposes.

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Trump Folds In Almost Every Negotiation

[devil21]

This is NOT welfare nor a stimulus payment.

This is COMPENSATION for the tanking the economy, causing 40,000,000 Americans to be unemployed and the destruction of thousands of businesses.



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It's not welfare nor a stimulus payment. You are right about that. What it is, however, is further conditioning to embrace government UBI, as the economy continues to tank.

[Slave Mentality]

The people still supporting this commie president are just as detrimental to liberty as the leftist mobs. They are also vocal against destroying cities, unless the cities are in the Middle East of course. We can’t have leftists looting the Walmarx, but not so much outrage for the prez allowing his corporate bros to rape the prosperity of untold generations to come. Our complacency will ensure that we suffer along with these intellectual dead ends.

Good times ahead for all. Live well while you still can.

[Invisible Man]

This is COMPENSATION for the tanking the economy, causing 40,000,000 Americans to be unemployed and the destruction of thousands of businesses.

What is the source of this "compensation"?

[TheCount]

[CaptUSA]

Well, you see, Justin... Some people have principles. In this case, they have the principles that adding that much debt won't do any good and will ultimately hurt the economy. And they only reason they set aside those principles last time was because they bundled a measly $600 with a bunch of stuff their donors wanted.

[Krugminator2]

That's great. Too bad the children of the future, whose wealth we're stealing to pay for this, didn't get a vote. I'm sure they'd probably tell us to pay for our own problems and hold our government accountable for their mistakes instead of holding them accountable. They haven't even been born, yet!

It is welfare. And if you surveyed people under 40 they would overwhelmingly support it. It isn't an easy concept to understand that government spending lowers future growth. Most economists don't even accept. They don't draw the connection that Japan has had low growth because of spending. And don't believe the Bush and Obama spending is a reason the economy has not grown as fast. They come up with reasons like income inequality to fit their ideology. Look at how many people believe government spending and how taxes resulted in growth after wwiii despite spending dropping by 60%.

[CaptUSA]

It is welfare. And if you surveyed people under 40 they would overwhelmingly support it. It isn't an easy concept to understand that government spending lowers future growth. Most economists don't even accept. They don't draw the connection that Japan has had low growth because of spending. And don't believe the Bush and Obama spending is a reason the economy has not grown as fast. They come up with reasons like income inequality to fit their ideology.

Agreed. Must spread rep....

[Peace Piper]

What is the source of this "compensation"?

The same source that is giving billions of dollars (really keystrokes on a keyboard) to foreign nations

WHY IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

I get it- many here do not give a single damn what happens to anyone but themselves. Maybe that's one reason the "Ron Paul Revolution" has fizzled into a broken, pathetic shell of its once vibrant self. That and the fact that Rand's priority is being accepted into the despicable (R) club. No more golfing with the President. Poor Rand.


What was the source of this: http://costofwar.com

[Krugminator2]

The same source that is giving billions of dollars (really keystrokes on a keyboard) to foreign nations

WHY IS THIS HARD TO UNDERSTAND?

I get it- many here do not give a single damn what happens to anyone but themselves. Maybe that's one reason the "Ron Paul Revolution" has fizzled into a broken, pathetic shell of its once vibrant self. That and the fact that Rand's priority is being accepted into the despicable (R) club. No more golfing with the President. Poor Rand.


What was the source of this: http://costofwar.com

Those numbers in the Tweet add up to $1.7 billion or .68% of the bill. That foreign aid is rounding error.

It made sense to hand people money when the unemployment rate was 15% and you had the biggest spike ever in unemployment claims. The unemployment rate is now 6%. which is where it was in 2013. https://www.bls.gov/charts/employmen...yment-rate.htm

When was the Ron Paul Revolution ever about handing out free $#@!? You think Ron Paul supports handing out free money? You can dump all over Rand all you want. That is a good thing. Rand is right to oppose this, because he isn't a Communist like you.

Also are you interviewed in this video?

[Krugminator2]

This is NOT welfare nor a stimulus payment.

This is COMPENSATION for the tanking the economy, causing 40,000,000 Americans to be unemployed and the destruction of thousands of businesses.

Welfare is the right word. This is an absolute waste of money. This is the worst kind of giveaway. Even honest left wing economists oppose this.

From Biden's top economic adviser

Family incomes are not down much from Covid-19, and there is a risk of overheating the economy.

There is no good economic argument for the $2,000 checks, a policy that was not even on the table until the president’s random pronouncement last week. The Democrats seizing this opportunity to pit the president and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell against each other is fair and good politics — but if it leads to actual implementation, it is bad economics.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...-are-a-mistake

Larry Summers, the former US treasury secretary who has reportedly advised President-elect Joe Biden, thinks $2,000 stimulus checks would be a "pretty serious mistake" that could overheat the US economy.

]He said he was "not even sure I'm so enthusiastic about the $600 checks," let alone $2,000 ones.