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    Massie, Gabbard team up on bill to repeal the Patriot Act

    Massie, Gabbard team up on bill to repeal the Patriot Act

    Reps. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) and Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) have teamed up to introduce a bill designed to repeal the Patriot Act.

    The two House members are proposing bipartisan legislation designed to limit government surveillance of people without warrants and probable cause.

    The Protect Our Civil Liberties Act would repeal both the Patriot Act and the FISA Amendments Act that permitted government agencies to collect mass telephone and email data. Gabbard and Massie argue that this surveillance violates Americans' right to privacy and their civil liberties.
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    I love it. I know it has little chance of passing either house, but I like the message it sends.

    Also, I wonder how long it takes for Tulsi Gabbard to break fully libertarian, or, at least, drop the socialist economic ideas. If she dropped the Demoncrap label, how about a Kristi Noem / Tulsi Presidency? Rand / Kristi is probably more realistic, though I'm either ticket is highly implausible.

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    There's no chance of the bill passing, but I agree with Badnon: it's a great bipartisan message to the Neocons in both parties.

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    No chance of passing or, anyone getting some kind of message Ha Ha Ha LOL

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    Great! This is like the good old days of Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich coming together on foreign policy and domestic surveillance. Only Thomas Massie is much younger than Ron Paul and Tulsi Gabbard is way hotter than just about any other politician I can thing of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Great! This is like the good old days of Ron Paul / Dennis Kucinich coming together on foreign policy and domestic surveillance. Only Thomas Massie is much younger than Ron Paul and Tulsi Gabbard is way hotter than just about any other politician I can thing of.

    All this does is prove that, like Amash before him, all Massie is is a sell-out traitor. WTF does he think he's doing allying himself with a Demoncrat? Everybody knows all any of them want is to take our guns and steal our money, lock us in our homes and destroy our culture, and maybe even slow roast us all on spits for good measure. Why doesn't Massie do something productive with his time and effort like encouraging Trump to launch a military coup followed by martial law because ... freedom.
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    Politics makes the strangest bedfellows.
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    If Gabbard was put up instead of Biden we would not be in the mess we are in right now, some Trump voters would have voted for her, and others would not be upset that Trump lost to her.
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    Peter Schiff says the name of the bill is always the opposite of what is really does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProBlue33 View Post
    If Gabbard was put up instead of Biden we would not be in the mess we are in right now, some Trump voters would have voted for her, and others would not be upset that Trump lost to her.
    The DNC gatekeepers were never going to allow that to happen. Gabbard dissed Hillary, repeatedly and on live national news. I love me some Tulsi.

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    Another bill that will go nowhere. Perhaps in another 200 yrs. we will get enough like Massie in there. Don't count on it. The Republic is dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    The Republic is dead.
    Been dead a long, long time... since 1860 at the best, but I'd say 1790.

    Imagine what that implies: that the people of this land have been so suckered by the false talk of freedom that things had to get THIS bad before they started twigging to the truth. Sadder still, there are those who continue to cling to the lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Peter Schiff says the name of the bill is always the opposite of what is really does.
    Gotcha!!
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    Too bad this bill will have no chance of actually passing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Another bill that will go nowhere. Perhaps in another 200 yrs. we will get enough like Massie in there. Don't count on it. The Republic is dead.
    Repeal of the unPatriot Act could happen twice as fast if instead of only looking at getting more like Massie we also looked at getting more like Tusli. That and putting more systematic pressure on whoever is in office to repeal it regardless of party. But that requires mobilizing a ground swell of popular support against the unPatriot Act which is difficult now because so many people have gotten used to the idea.
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    "It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    Repeal of the unPatriot Act could happen twice as fast if instead of only looking at getting more like Massie we also looked at getting more like Tusli. That and putting more systematic pressure on whoever is in office to repeal it regardless of party. But that requires mobilizing a ground swell of popular support against the unPatriot Act which is difficult now because so many people have gotten used to the idea.

    Unfortunately, Tulsi is on her way out, now. The Democratic establishment hated her as much as the GOP establishment hated Ron Paul, and with about the same level of vitriol. I don't think we'll see another Dem as independent as Tulsi for a few years. She's now living in California, so there's a chance she could run for office there, in one of the conservative-leaning pockets of the state, but she had no political future in Hawaii.



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