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    Fasten your seat-belt, because we are about to embark upon a journey which may throw you a few curve balls!

    Perhaps the best place to begin this journey is with an analysis from Peter Cresswell regarding the Codex Sinaiticus or "Sinai Bible", which is one of the four great uncial codices, ancient, handwritten copies of a Christian Bible in Greek. It contains the oldest complete copy of the New Testament we have on hand, and apparently is the source from which the Codex Vaticanus was copied. In his video linked below, Peter concludes that the original story of Jesus was one of survival which contained no mention of his resurrection, and that Jesus was killed by the Romans. He also concludes that Rome later added the resurrection story, and that to put Rome in better light, Rome changed the Bible to accuse the Jews of killing Jesus:

    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRv0jgkZ8GE

    The video is a plug for his book, where Peter Cresswell has taken an in-depth look at the earliest surviving manuscripts of the gospels describing the life and death of Jesus as well as letters, attributed to Paul and others, to the outposts of the early Church. There are papyrus fragments, some from as early as the second century, and then later manuscripts written on parchment, with fewer gaps in the text. The vast majority are written in Greek -- the language of Empire and of the early Church. Cresswell carefully analyses the surviving texts to show how doctrines, such as the divinity of Jesus and the Resurrection, have been progressively introduced into the narrative.

    With this in mind I recalled from earlier research I had done, that Simon of Perea Crowned himself Messiah one generation prior to the life of Jesus Christ. The Romans chased him into a Perean gully, decapitated him and did not bury his body. After his death, Simon´s followers continued to call him Christ. A new idea is sparked - they see the suffering and dying of the Messiah as an essential part of the process of salvation. According to the video linked below, there is reason to believe that John the Baptist was in Perea and later passed on this account to Jesus Christ. However, if we combine this account with Peter Cresswell´s conclusions, it suggests strongly that in fact Simon of Perea was the ORIGINAL historical Jesus everyone has been looking for.

    The Messiah Before Jesus - Documentary by Simcha Jacobovichi
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g13jQYOzYo

    Is it merely coincidence that Apostle Peter is also known as Simon, and who according to Peter Cresswell, is the very person who originated the earlier story of Jesus which made no mention of his resurrection? Are you starting to now feel like you are in the Twighlight Zone? But wait, it gets even better . . . or shall we say . . . MORE WEIRD/TWISTED?

    Apollonius of Tyana (a vegetarian contemporary of Jesus who lived from 15 AD. to 100 AD., or according to Wikipedia, circa 3 BC – c. 97 AD) performed countless miracles (healing sick and crippled, restored sight, casted out demons, etc.) His birth was of a virgin, foretold by an angel. He knew scripture really well as a child. He was crucified, rose from the dead and appeared to his disciples to prove his power before going to heaven to sit at the right hand of the father. He was known as, “The Son of God”.” [However, he did admit twice that he was a magician, and so for this and other reasons, his life story, written by Philostratus in the third century C.E. was believed to be unreliable].

    So remember how Cresswell carefully analysed the surviving texts to show how doctrines, such as the divinity of Jesus and the Resurrection, have been progressively introduced into the narrative? Imagine that, since we now also have an historical Jesus who is more in line with the Newer Jesus narrative as well! Are we getting Coo-Coo for Cocoa Puffs yet? But wait, there´s more . . .

    Apollonius of Tyana is none other than . . . drum roll . . . drum roll . . . drum roll . . . Apostle Paul!

    Don´t believe it? Well, keep your seat-belt on then while you read the following separate article I wrote on this topic regarding Apostle Paul:

    - https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/religion/2020/2555721.html

    Sossianus Hierocles argued in the 3rd century that the doctrines and the life of Apollonius were more valuable than those of Jesus', a viewpoint reportedly held by both Voltaire and Charles Blount during the Age of Enlightenment. In his 1909 book The Christ, John Remsburg postulated that the religion of Apollonius disappeared because the proper conditions for its development did not exist. Buddhism, Christianity, and Islam thrived however, because the existing conditions were favorable.

    - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollonius_of_Tyana

    Also according to Wikipedia, Roman Emperor Constantine the Great lived much of his life as a pagan, and later as a catechumen, he joined the Christian religion on his deathbed... but some modern scholars debate his beliefs and even his comprehension of Christianity.

    However, there was an excellent documentary filmed in Rome by Simcha Jacobovichi which clearly demonstrates that Constantine projected himself as a replacement God for both Apollo, the sun god, and also as a replacement God for Jesus Christ. Simcha shows how the Roman Elites, including Constantine, were secretly practicing Pagan religion in hidden basements located directly underneath the earliest Roman Christian churches! Constantine also arranged for his tomb-site to be surrounded by 12 disciples or 12 disciple tombs which simultaneously depict Constantine as both Jesus [Simcha´s observation] and the god of the 12 signs of the Zodiac [my observation]. The documentary is about 40 minutes long and is a MUST SEE:

    Secrets Of Christianity - 105 - Selling Christianity
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7A7-KOFyMA

    So with this knowledge of Constantine who was the champion behind the creation of the modern day Bible, is it any wonder that the Christian Bible is heavily encoded with Astro-theology? In my research I also learned that a frequent guest on Rex Bear´s Leak Project programs is Micah Dank, who is attempting to decode practically the entire Bible in terms of Astro-Theology. Here are a couple of links:

    Biblical Origins, Decoding Scriptures They Tried To Hide PT 1, Micah Dank
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TLHz9YBFQ

    Book of Enoch Decoded with Astronomy, This Will Blow Your Mind, Micah Dank
    - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NB-d79TfVg

    In my research I also found that much of the old testament includes segments of the much larger Anunnaki story. This includes the co-creation of man, the fallen angels, Satan (Marduk) leading a rebellion against God (Enlil), the Exodus manna story (Enki), the flood story, the Nephilim giants, David and Goliath, Tower of Babel, etc.

    For more information on this subject, please read the following article of mine as well as my other Anunnaki article which it links to:

    In the Days of Noah It Was Not Jesus Who Saved Us But Rather Enki
    - https://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2...i-2555120.html

    And finally to close this article I will share the following potentially illuminating comment made to Peter Cresswell´s video referenced in the beginning of this article:

    Mr. B
    1 year ago
    Jesus isn’t in any of the prophecies. Christian writers edited the OT to make it sound like Jesus and/or misinterpreted. Paul himself was terrible with this and took OT verses and changed the meanings. Use https://www.sefaria.org
    and look at all those Christian verses you compiled and look them up in the real bible (Tanach) and read the commentaries. Jesus was placed in those verses to keep people in Christianity. I was fed junk all my life. I grew up in a private Lutheran school and church. I even converted to catholic for my wife. I understand the brainwashing. I read all versions of the Bible and I was missing something wrong I couldn’t pinpoint. I had so many questions school, church, or priest could [not] answer. Once getting my hands on Jewish bible commentaries, it all made sense and questions where answered. There is only one God and to believe otherwise (parts of or others in one) is a lie.


    Original Source: https://beforeitsnews.com/religion/2...d-2555982.html





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    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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    *SIGH*

    Matthew 7:15
    King James Version
    15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

    John 3:16
    King James Version
    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    *SIGH*

    Matthew 7:15
    King James Version
    15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

    John 3:16
    King James Version
    16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. (1 John 4:1ff)
    This Simcha character has been promoting this antichrist "Jesus debunked", gnostic garbage for years and years, and clearly makes a hefty income doing it. The devil's work pays very well!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaytonB View Post
    This Simcha character has been promoting this antichrist "Jesus debunked", gnostic garbage for years and years, and clearly makes a hefty income doing it. The devil's work pays very well!
    Oh indeed it does here and now. However, the price they pay, in the next life, will be even more heftier. God's wrath will be the price they receive for falsely teaching HIS word.

    1 Peter 4:17 King James Version

    17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
    “The spirits of darkness are now among us. We have to be on guard so that we may realize what is happening when we encounter them and gain a real idea of where they are to be found. The most dangerous thing you can do in the immediate future will be to give yourself up unconsciously to the influences which are definitely present.” ~ Rudolf Steiner

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnay View Post
    Oh indeed it does here and now. However, the price they pay, in the next life, will be even more heftier. God's wrath will be the price they receive for falsely teaching HIS word.

    1 Peter 4:17 King James Version

    17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
    It is too difficult to contemplate. I'm not perfect but I sure don't want to be in their shoes on Judgment Day, I'm sure of that...



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