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  1. #61
    "When Sombart says: "Capitalism is born from the money-loan", I should like to add to this: Capitalism actually exists only in the money-loan;" - Theodor Fritsch



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    Anyone wanna bet that the feds are going to infiltrate this Texas secession movement and completely ruin it?
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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  5. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Don't worry, it's not gonna happen.

    The secession referendum isn't on the list of legislative priorities for the 88th session, and in Texas politics, if it ain't on the list, it ain't getting done.

    Maybe in the 2025 session. We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Anyone wanna bet that the feds are going to infiltrate this Texas secession movement and completely ruin it?
    "going to"???
    Jer. 11:18-20. "The Kingdom of God has come upon you." -- Matthew 12:28

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    https://twitter.com/MLiamMcCollum/st...40247479533568
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
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    It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.
    - Kim Kardashian

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    https://twitter.com/HumanEvents/stat...32221725851650

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    OW

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    Texas Gets One Step Closer to Leaving US
    https://www.newsweek.com/texas-seces...ballot-1848890
    {Andrew Stanton | 01 December 2023}

    Advocates for Texas' secession from the United States believe they are on the verge of scoring a crucial victory.

    The Texas Republican Party's executive committee is set to vote over the weekend on which ballot propositions voters will decide during the Republican primary elections in March 2024. One measure would ask Republican voters, "Should the State of Texas reassert its status as an independent nation?"

    Ahead of the vote, the Texas Nationalist Movement, an organization that supports Texas' independence from the U.S., warned the GOP they have enough signatures to force a vote on the question of whether they support secession.

    Texas nationalists have for years pushed for a referendum on Texas secession, despite the fact there is no provision for a state to secede in the U.S. Constitution. The state seceded from Mexico in 1836 and spent nine years as its own nation before becoming a U.S. state. It also seceded from the Union in 1861 before being readmitted following the end of the Civil War in 1870.

    "In June of this year, our organization launched a petition campaign under the Texas Election Code 172.088. This section of the Election Code allows voters, by petition, to place a question on a party's primary ballot. In short, by collecting 97,709 signatures and submitting them by the filing deadline on December 11, 2023, we could actually bypass the SREC's ballot proposition process and compel the party to place the question on the ballot," the letter reads.

    Newsweek reached out to the Texas Republican Party for comment via email.

    If the question makes the primary ballot and passes, it would not be legally binding nor would it mean Texas is actually seceding from the U.S. Still, it would be a key victory for secession advocates, who critics view as a fringe belief that would face significant hurdles in a general election.

    The letter notes that the question would be "advisory only" and offers Republican voters to share their thoughts on whether the state should become an independent nation.

    The organization argued that the party, by including the question on the ballot, would not be "endorsing a specific outcome" but instead backing the principle that "app perspectives within the party deserve consideration."

    "Placing the question on the ballot brings clarity. If, as our detractors say, this is a fringe issue that no one supports, then they should have no resistance to this question being asked of Republican voters," the letter reads. "in fact, they should be some of its strongest supporters. If what they say is true, then the results will show that fact, and TEXIT will be a dead issue in the party for a generation."

    The latest effort to push for a vote on secession also comes as Texas undergoes a major political shift. Texas' cities and suburbs, once ruby-red areas that kept the state safely Republican, have shifted toward Democrats in recent election cycles, with President Joe Biden flipping suburban counties outside of Austin and Dallas during the 2020 presidential election.

    The Democratic shift has sparked questions about the political future of the state, as the state GOP has also faced heightened infighting as its margins continue to slip.

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    Will Texit Be on the GOP Primary Ballot in 2024?
    https://odysee.com/@mises:1/will-tex...imary-ballot:9
    {Mises Media | 15 December 2023}

    Daniel Miller, founder and president of the Texas Nationalist Movement, joins Bob to discuss the exciting developments in the push for a referendum on Texas secession. Daniel explains the prospects and then answers common objections to the idea.

    Daniel Miller's Website: https://Mises.org/HAP426a

    Bob's Pamphlet on Texas Independence: https://Mises.org/HAP426b




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  16. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by PAF View Post
    Bingo.

    May I please have another?

    Please?
    +rep

    We're being governed ruled by a geriatric Alzheimer patient/puppet whose strings are being pulled by an elitist oligarchy who believe they can manage the world... imagine the utter maniacal, sociopathic hubris!

  17. #74
    https://twitter.com/BobMurphyEcon/st...62607623782821


    https://twitter.com/TexasNatMov/stat...40279896588297
    {Texas Nationalist Movement (TEXIT) @TexasNatMov | 27 December 2023}

    [all emphasis in original - OB]

    BREAKING: TNM Has Passed A Resolution Authorizing Legal Action Against The @TexasGOP

    Resolution to Authorize Legal Action Against the Republican Party of Texas

    WHEREAS, the Texas Nationalist Movement (TNM) is committed to promoting the political, cultural, and economic independence of Texas;

    WHEREAS, the TNM has submitted petition signatures under Texas Election Code 172.088 for the inclusion of the question "The State of Texas should reassert its status as an independent nation." on the March 2024 Republican Primary ballot;

    WHEREAS, the Republican Party of Texas has failed to acknowledge or act upon these submitted petition signatures in accordance with the stipulations of the Texas Election Code;

    NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that the Board of Directors of the Texas Nationalist Movement hereby authorizes the initiation of legal action against the Republican Party of Texas to ensure the proper consideration and inclusion of the aforementioned question on the March 2024 Republican Primary ballot;

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the President of the TNM, in consultation with legal counsel, is authorized to take all necessary steps, including litigation, to uphold the rights and interests of the Texas Nationalist Movement as per the relevant provisions of the Texas Election Code;

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the TNM shall engage in this legal action to protect the democratic process and the rights of its members and supporters to have their voices heard in the political arena;

    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Secretary of the Corporation, Cara Austin-Frost, is directed to include this resolution in the minutes of the Corporation and to disseminate a copy of this resolution to all members of the Board of Directors.

    Adopted unanimous consent on this 26th day of December, 2023

  18. #75
    It might be the first hurdle, but it won't be the biggest one. The idea of seceding is just not that broadly popular across the state. Should the TNM succeed in getting their question on the ballot, they will soon find out it's not hugely popular even within the GOP party. All they are going to do if they succeed in getting the question on the ballot is awaken and marshal big money in this State to lobby against it. $.02

  19. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    It might be the first hurdle, but it won't be the biggest one. The idea of seceding is just not that broadly popular across the state. Should the TNM succeed in getting their question on the ballot, they will soon find out it's not hugely popular even within the GOP party. All they are going to do if they succeed in getting the question on the ballot is awaken and marshal big money in this State to lobby against it. $.02
    You’re probably right, but diverting resources that would normally be applied to perpetuating the status quo is a good thing.
    “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it good and hard.”

    H.L. Mencken

  20. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    It might be the first hurdle, but it won't be the biggest one. The idea of seceding is just not that broadly popular across the state. Should the TNM succeed in getting their question on the ballot, they will soon find out it's not hugely popular even within the GOP party. All they are going to do if they succeed in getting the question on the ballot is awaken and marshal big money in this State to lobby against it. $.02
    It won't succeed this go around. (Succeed in seceding?) What it will do is plant the seed in the minds of people that will by default be against it without really thinking it through and realizing there's no reason not to have independence.

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    Can Texas go it alone?

    No. There are too many dominoes on edge. Texas is a long, long way from perfect, but it looks one hell of a lot better than D.C. Wither Texas goes, goeth half the country. Flyover Country is about to fly.




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  25. #81
    Have any of the Texit folks done a sober assessment of the likely consequences of a Texit implementation? How would that play out exactly with existing Federal assets/investments in the State (NASA, military bases/equipment, research grants, etc.)? What impact would that have on businesses that are currently headquartered here (and might prefer to stay domiciled within the USA versus an independent Texas)?

  26. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Bern View Post
    Have any of the Texit folks done a sober assessment of the likely consequences of a Texit implementation? How would that play out exactly with existing Federal assets/investments in the State (NASA, military bases/equipment, research grants, etc.)? What impact would that have on businesses that are currently headquartered here (and might prefer to stay domiciled within the USA versus an independent Texas)?
    This is what is needed, not just for Texas, but across the country. The topic of secession needs to become a serious one that is taken seriously and talked and written about by people who are taken seriously by others and recognized as a real issue of this generation that needs to be dealt with and can't be ignored. Detailed plans about how it could be done without bloodshed should be presented and discussed at all levels in government, media, academia, large corporations, and not just dismissed as something that can't happen or that will only happen in the distant future. At some point it is going to happen. We have the opportunity to prepare. And if we miss that opportunity the bloodshed will surely be much worse.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

  27. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Invisible Man View Post
    We have the opportunity to prepare. And if we miss that opportunity the bloodshed will surely be much worse.
    You consider that a bug. The people behind this psyop, the mRNA peddlers, the diplomatic engineers of WWIII, seem to consider it a feature.

  28. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by acptulsa View Post
    You consider that a bug. The people behind this psyop, the mRNA peddlers, the diplomatic engineers of WWIII, seem to consider it a feature.
    All the more reason for those on the side of secession to push, not just secession itself, but serious discussion about it that gets into the details of the countless and complicated entanglements between the federal government and states and localities. Being for secession in the abstract is one thing. Entering into agreements about what's going to happen with the nuclear silos that are either agreeable to all parties or close enough to that ideal to stave off civil war, is another.
    There is nothing to fear from globalism, free trade and a single worldwide currency, but a globalism where free trade is competitively subsidized by each nation, a continuous trade war is dictated by the WTO, and the single currency is pure fiat, fear is justified. That type of globalism is destined to collapse into economic despair, inflationism and protectionism and managed by resurgent militant nationalism.
    Ron Paul
    Congressional Record (March 13, 2001)

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    Feds warn Texas not to enforce state-level immigration bill

    Supreme court Allows Fed Agents to Cut Razor Wire Texas Installed on Border

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  30. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Exactly. Not only that, refineries and ports...
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    "Debt is the drug, Wall St. Banksters are the dealers, and politicians are the addicts." - B4L
    "Totally free immigration? I've never taken that position. I believe in national sovereignty." - Ron Paul

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