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    Rush Limbaugh calls for Republican States to Secede from Union




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    “I know that there’s a sizable and growing sentiment for people who believe that that is where we’re headed whether we want to or not. Whether we want to go there or not. I, myself, haven’t made up my mind. I still haven’t given up the idea that we are the majority and that all we have to do is find a way to unite and win.

    I'm not sure how "I myself haven't made up my mind" = calling for secession.
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    Who's still living in a city?

    Why?

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    This is also what Jeff Deist over at the Mises Institute has been talking about. Peaceful Secession. The problem, from my perspective, is that the dividing lines are not neatly drawn. This is not North vs South this is exurbs and rural America versus urban and suburban America. This situation calls for radical decentralization. Exurbs no longer paying taxes to the capital both state and federal. Nullification as a principle growing city by city.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    I still haven’t given up the idea that we are the majority and that all we have to do is find a way to unite and win.
    Even if we win, there's still half the country still bent on destroying it. Let the socialist half take half and go full socialism or communism. Then have a few evil, sinister laughs when they find out where its headed

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    Quote Originally Posted by ResponsibleIdiot View Post
    Even if we win, there's still half the country still bent on destroying it. Let the socialist half take half and go full socialism or communism. Then have a few evil, sinister laughs when they find out where its headed
    Maybe with the knowledge of what is Trump Term 2 can weed out the evil.

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    This bugs me...way beyond any rational irritation.

    It's SECEDE: meaning to break away from a particular group, not SUCCEED: meaning to win.

    Similar to Marshal Law vs. Martial Law, it makes us all look dimwitted when used in the improper context.

    Grammar Nazi rant out.

    Carry on.
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    Rush Limbaugh: Conservative States Are 'Trending Toward Secession'

    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/1000877/1

    By Jeffrey Rodack Thursday, 10 Dec 2020 9:35 AM

    Rush Limbaugh, noting conservatives have very little in common with people in certain states, is raising the issue of secession.

    Limbaugh made his comments on his radio show on Wednesday.

    “I actually think that we’re trending toward secession,” he said. “I see more and more people asking what in the world do we have in common with the people who live in, say, New York?

    What is there that makes us believe that there is enough of us there to even have a chance at winning New York, especially if you’re talking about votes.

    “A lot of bloggers have written extensively about how distant and separated and how much more separated our culture is becoming politically and that it can’t go on this way. There cannot be a peaceful coexistence of two completely different theories of life, theories of government, theories of how we manage our affairs. We can’t be in this dire a conflict without something giving somewhere along the way.

    “I know that there’s a sizable and growing sentiment for people who believe that that is where we’re headed whether we want to or not. Whether we want to go there or not. I, myself, haven’t made up my mind. I still haven’t given up the idea that we are the majority and that all we have to do is find a way to unite and win.”
    We must picture Hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment. - C. S. Lewis



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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This bugs me...way beyond any rational irritation.

    It's SECEDE: meaning to break away from a particular group, not SUCCEED: meaning to win.

    Similar to Marshal Law vs. Martial Law, it makes us all look dimwitted when used in the improper context.

    Grammar Nazi rant out.

    Carry on.
    Irregardless of the spelling. I understood it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    Similar to Marshal Law vs. Martial Law, it makes us all look dimwitted when used in the improper context.
    Sure about that?



    Edit: And looking the comments in ^that video I see people excoriating the YouTuber for mixing up Jeet Kune Do with Taekwondo. LOL
    Last edited by jmdrake; 12-10-2020 at 12:25 PM.
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    Maybe some of the divorced guys can share how they succeeded from their union.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This bugs me...way beyond any rational irritation.

    It's SECEDE: meaning to break away from a particular group, not SUCCEED: meaning to win.

    Similar to Marshal Law vs. Martial Law, it makes us all look dimwitted when used in the improper context.

    Grammar Nazi rant out.

    Carry on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This bugs me...way beyond any rational irritation.

    It's SECEDE: meaning to break away from a particular group, not SUCCEED: meaning to win.

    Similar to Marshal Law vs. Martial Law, it makes us all look dimwitted when used in the improper context.

    Grammar Nazi rant out.

    Carry on.
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    Secession is the only way out at this point.
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    This election is about control, not freedom, and so secession doesn't make sense for either side.


    You can see this in the other masturbatory fantasy thread, where the author is dreaming of the blue states trying to secede, and then the US military is used to force their compliance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    Irregardless of the spelling. I understood it.
    Eye sea what ewe did their.
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    If It really came down to it I suspect the states looking to secede will look at the loss of federal funding and will back down. If history is any indication they will not be able to gather enough support in their own states to pull it off and if i even came close you can guarantee the news media will herd people accordingly in those states against it. They will fear monger about the loss of Social Security, Medicare, etc that would be deemed as under threat or the US government threatening to withhold the fund transfer of the seceding states share of those programs long term.

    I think what will happen is in a little over a month the news media will be fully onboard with the Biden admin and all this will be forgotten by the people that for the most part have incredibly short attention spans. Social media, youtube etc are already doing their part to ensure people do not see any opposition. You can add in some false flag or foreign threat to ensure people rally around Biden and that support will include those on the right that are easily gamed by Neocon propaganda.

    Trump will continue rallies, with dwindling attendance which will be barely covered by the news media if at all and if they do they will cover them as a failure. Trump will however start a news channel and will have people in place to be sure no one gets the idea of taking this secession talk too far. He will want the competing channel to be viable to take down the people he feels in the news media betrayed him and he would not want to see it get shut down with any talk of incitement.

    Those on the right will think they are performing political activism (particularly Boomers) by watching Trump's new news channel, Newsmax and OANN. Some will return to Fox News for controlled op Tucker that will provide the oxytocin they need to keep them placated. As if Tucker is actually doing something. At dinner parties the right will discuss the threat of secession and will be amped up about some foreign threat, thinking wow, we really fixed them. But nothing will come from it since no one is stepping up to save them since the people they perceive that will do so are in on the game.
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    Yawn. If secession really happened he would crap a brick and backtrack...

    Rush's ship for believability that he was some rogue liberty lover sailed long ago. I used to love him when I was a dumb kid, but learned pretty quickly that just like the guys who built their shows on the foundations of Rush's....like Hannity and Glen Beck, that they are just a bunch of paper tigers.
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    We can’t be in this dire a conflict without something giving somewhere along the way.
    This is stuff genocides are made of.
    We must picture Hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment. - C. S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    This election is about control, not freedom, and so secession doesn't make sense for either side.
    It makes perfect sense for me.

    I don't know whose "side" you think I'm on, but I have no desire for power, I don't care what you or the rest of America does.

    I just want to be left alone, to live my life as I see fit.
    We must picture Hell as a state where everyone is perpetually concerned about his own dignity and advancement, where everyone has a grievance, and where everyone lives the deadly serious passions of envy, self-importance, and resentment. - C. S. Lewis

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    There cannot be a peaceful coexistence of two completely different theories [...]
    Leave it to Limbaugh & Co. to frame things in terms of only two alternatives or "sides," of course ...

    I still haven't given up the idea that we are the majority and that all we have to do is find a way to unite and win.
    By "win," he apparently means forcibly imposing his supposedly majoritarian will upon the losers.

    Which, of course, will only impel them to "find a way to unite and win" in counter-reaction. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    In a continent-spanning nation of a third of a billion people, any majority is likely to be a bare one (or there won't even be a majority at all, just a plurality). Thus, there will always be a significantly large number of people who will be excluded, yet who will be bound with the majority (or plurality) under a single polity. They will resent this exclusion, which will poison the body politic - a situation which will, of course, be exploited by demagogues who will fan the flames of resentment and entitlement, until the whole thing shakes itself apart like an unbalanced washing machine. We can already see this happening, Indeed, it has been a gradual but ongoing process for a long time now, and has recently become so glaringly obvious as to be undeniable (whence comes Rush Limbaugh's ruminations on the subject). The ultimate endpoint of this process is rampantly illiberal authoritarianism (whether of left-socialist or right-fascist variety). The only way to avoid this doom is via radical decentralization/separation.

    Divided we stand (some of us, anyway). United we fall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Globalist View Post
    Secession is the only way out at this point.
    Let the Blue States secede. I want to control the Nuclear Weapons, Intelligence Agencies, and DOD until they can be corralled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    It makes perfect sense for me.

    I don't know whose "side" you think I'm on, but I have no desire for power, I don't care what you or the rest of America does.

    I just want to be left alone, to live my life as I see fit.

    I'm not saying that no one feels that the way that you say you do, but rather that it's not my general sense of opinion writ large.


    Comments like "I just want liberal heads to explode" and such lead to me to think that it's not at all about freedom. Even when things are said which have a vaguely freedom-ish vibe, it's usually "Trump's got to win because otherwise the left" and so on. The discussion is more akin to two sports teams than to two different political philosophies. (Arguably, there aren't actually two different political philosophies at all, but that's another discussion.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Leave it to Limbaugh & Co. to frame things in terms of only two alternatives or "sides," of course ...



    By "win," he apparently means forcibly imposing his supposedly majoritarian will upon the losers.

    Which, of course, will only impel them to "find a way to unite and win" in counter-reaction. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    In a continent-spanning nation of a third of a billion people, any majority is likely to be a bare one (or there won't even be a majority at all, just a plurality). Thus, there will always be a significantly large number of people who will be excluded, yet who will be bound with the majority (or plurality) under a single polity. They will resent this exclusion, which will poison the body politic - a situation which will, of course, be exploited by demagogues who will fan the flames of resentment and entitlement, until the whole thing shakes itself apart like an unbalanced washing machine. We can already see this happening, Indeed, it has been a gradual but ongoing process for a long time now, and has recently become so glaringly obvious as to be undeniable (whence comes Rush Limbaugh's ruminations on the subject). The ultimate endpoint of this process is rampantly illiberal authoritarianism (whether of left-socialist or right-fascist variety). The only way to avoid this doom is via radical decentralization/separation.

    Divided we stand (some of us, anyway). United we fall.
    Yes. And the problems is, we're in the washing machine. And unfortunately, as these tensions ramp themselves up to an inevitable crescendo, no one is going to be listening to the dozen or so of us suggesting that this is actually a great opportunity for liberty.

    Everyone thinks they're fighting for liberty. Nobody but us thinks that radical decentralization/separation is a solution. I think there are only two paths forward - society miraculously walks itself back from what seems to be a brink of sectarian violence at a minimum; or, society plunges into the abyss and the whole thing becomes a contest to grab control of the mantle. I don't know that anyone other than us (and we don't count for much) is interested in peaceful dissolution.

    I want to be wrong.

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    I call B.S. on Rush, not the idea of secession. Rush doesn't want secession he wants to reinvigorate the right and then steer them back to the Neocon agenda for the midterms and 2024. Oh, and he wants ratings too.

    If Rush was serious, he would have backed Ron Paul and others like him but he won't. He's a hawk interventionist, pro-Israel foreign policy hack.

    I'm all for secession but Rush is not going to be the guy to lead the charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anti Federalist View Post
    This bugs me...way beyond any rational irritation.

    It's SECEDE: meaning to break away from a particular group, not SUCCEED: meaning to win.

    Similar to Marshal Law vs. Martial Law, it makes us all look dimwitted when used in the improper context.

    Grammar Nazi rant out.

    Carry on.
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    This. Fully armed, fully loaded, and ready. This is going to have to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainAmerica View Post
    This is going to have to happen
    Do you actually think it will happen?
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