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Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Where in this thread did I make the argument that people should get the Covid vaccination?
This is a freedom issue. You can babble about fascism all you want in every thread. It is an insane argument that can used to justify any market intervention (like this one) whenever it suits your irrational whims.
When are you going to night school to learn the difference between FASCISM and CAPITALISM?
"Krugminator aka Mr clueless, is now going to argue that although we have a gargantuan regulatory state - Agencies from AAA to ZZZ - that we are nevertheless a capitalistic nation. Go fig
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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
His position is anarchy, because he is stating that any regulation at all is a limit on Liberty, even when it's against fascist corporations that are part of the ruling class. If you can't create any and all regulations, then the whole concept of government, no matter how small is an infraction on liberty.
All those regulations you mention forcefully impose something on both parties. The idea of conflating this with the banning of an employer forcefully injecting an unproven substance into an employee's vanes with the threat of termination, is intellectually lazy at best.
Mr. Madison called me a fascist even though he wants to give fascist corporations supreme unmitigated power.
This is why I'm convinced that most people won't learn until the boot is on their necks. When Mr. Madison goes to the store to buy essential supplies and they ask him for his papers to go in. Remember, only the big mega corporations will be open because all the small businesses are being forced into bankruptcy. He won't be able to buy food for his family, but he can enjoy the "liberty" of his forced vaccine, because it wasn't "the government" that forced him.
HUH?
WHAT THE F U C K E T H?
Yo Vern , the ones who are a danger to liberty are the states - the bureaucracies - which grant corporation powers.
The corporation are not fascists - the governments which immunize them - or grant them special dispensations are the threat.
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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
No. It isn't intellectually lazy. They are one for one comparisons. . If you are going to argue forcing employers to buy health insurance ultimately imposes a cost on employees, then you logically have to make the same case for banning a vaccine. If an employer thinks a vaccine will keep people from getting the virus and having to miss work and that benefit outweighs the risks of getting ill and missing work, then a vaccine ban is a fine on the employer which will ultimately make the employees poorer. All the regulations I listed are the same issue.
Last edited by Krugminator2; 12-06-2020 at 12:36 PM.
You are.
Until FORCED by the Federal Government edicts,,no employer piss tested anyone in the History of the Damn World.
And had no reason to until it was mandated.
I worked in this world before that was even a question.
I remember when that stupidity got started.. and it has been a net loss for everyone involved.
Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
Ron Paul 2004
Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
It's all about Freedom
It's not the same at all. Preventing people from making decisions about their own health because your going to need a stamp on your covid passport. The absurdly of even trying to compare the two is insane and very intellectually lazy. Like I said, if a regulation can't prevent medical decisions being made for you, then there pretty much is no more room for any regulation and a government is deemed unnecessary. This is anarchy. If that's what you want, more power to you. Even I will accept that would be a better solution to today's totalitarianism. Just be honest with yourself if that's what you want.
Last edited by Matt4Liberty; 12-06-2020 at 02:59 PM.
The government and these corporations are for all intents and purposes the same entities. They write the regulations. Why do you think that they were deemed essential while small businesses were forced to close? This is no different than Dialler Benz, Messerschmitt, Bayer, Bosch, etc... and the influence they had in Germany in the 30s. With this logic, Blackwater providing mercenary services to the military industrial complex is the free market.
Business owners can't force you to do anything. They can only stop employing you. I'm not an anarchist. I believe the government should protect individual rights. Business owners are individuals. They have the same rights as any other individual. It's actually your type of thinking that's ruining our standard of living. The idea that the government can force business owners to hire and fire certain people makes is harder for businesses to make a profit.
Suppose your neighbor hires a guy to cut his grass every week. Then he finds out the grass cutter is gay and since he's deeply religious he fires him. Using your logic is your neighbor "forcing" the grass cutter to go straight? Should the government step in and use force (real force) to make your neighbor keep employing the gay grass cutter? After all being gay has no effect on how he cuts grass and is on his own time, right?
Biden has no clue of what is going on from one day to the next. But that's irrelevant to the point I am making. Trump set the stage for the military distributed warp speed vaccine. He didn't just "say" it. He freaking funded it. It's already being distributed and Biden ain't even president yet. And yes, the mark is coming regardless, but it has nothing to do with whether or not a private business decides you can't come in the door without a vaccine. That's just a ridiculous twisting of the meaning of Revelation 13.
9/11 Thermate experiments
Winston Churchhill on why the U.S. should have stayed OUT of World War I
"I am so %^&*^ sick of this cult of Ron Paul. The Paulites. What is with these %^&*^ people? Why are there so many of them?" YouTube rant by "TheAmazingAtheist"
"We as a country have lost faith and confidence in freedom." -- Ron Paul
"It can be a challenge to follow the pronouncements of President Trump, as he often seems to change his position on any number of items from week to week, or from day to day, or even from minute to minute." -- Ron Paul
Lord of Mercy , the crazies are coming out of the woodwork
Since , at least , February 2020
The Deep State Cabal, the Fake News Media aka the SEE BS Network and the Demo Rats have been scaring the f u c k out of Americans with b u l l s h i t about covid19.
All the hype In order for BigPharma to rake in gazillions selling a dangerous poison and
tanking the economy, putting 35 million Americans out of work, forcing thousands of companies into bankruptcy & hoping that Americans take out their anger on President Trump.
And of course , the real mission of the hoax: FORCE THE STATES TO ADOPT MAIL IN BALLOTS.
With , at least 150,000,000 Americans , scared s h i t l e s s and gullible enough to believe all that crap what is President Trump supposed to do ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
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"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Well, as a Libertarian, I fully concur, President Trump shouldn’t have given BigPharma the grant nor buy the vaccines from them.
But as indicated , above , that would have been a huge political disaster . I can not think of a worse nightmare than another FDR II, A President Biden administration.
RealPolitik
Sad
Which reinforces my position. Why have parties, elections, presidents, at all.
@CCTelander @devil21
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
Not I.
I will never consent to Communism or Fascism.
An Agorist Primer Page 46, then start at the beginning.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
Uh....it was Trump who declared a state of emergency over the Covid crap- and it was Trump who ordered Warp Speed & funded the vax through mega Gates corps- and it was Trump who said he use the military to get the vax out.
@jmdrake
Just saw this- pretty much what I just said.
Anyone shilling for a president (Trump) who pushed for and funded the "warp speed" vaccine and who said the military will distribute it is paving the way for the mark of the beast whether they know it or not.
Last edited by Ender; 12-06-2020 at 09:06 PM.
There is no spoon.
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
"Let it not be said that we did nothing."-Ron Paul
"We have set them on the hobby-horse of an idea about the absorption of individuality by the symbolic unit of COLLECTIVISM. They have never yet and they never will have the sense to reflect that this hobby-horse is a manifest violation of the most important law of nature, which has established from the very creation of the world one unit unlike another and precisely for the purpose of instituting individuality."- A Quote From Some Old Book
There is an awful lot missing, because he such a good fascist-democrat, but this short piece should provide some insight. Read it, before getting back to me.
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-On-The-Record
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
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An Agorist Primer ~ Samuel Edward Konkin III (free PDF download)
The End of All Evil ~ Jeremy Locke (free PDF download)
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