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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    If you believe any of this nonsense will actually happen you are delusional.
    I believe a few scumbags got shot already,,
    And only restraint is preventing a Street Cleaning.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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    Rasmussen says 75% of Republicans think it was likely that the election was stolen from Trump, 30% of Democrats say it was likely stolen from Trump.

    47% overall likely voters believe it was stolen from Trump.
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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    On a state-by-state basis, Republicans have the majority of 26 state delegations while Democrats control 22.
    Yes, I know. However, don't those delegations vote? If they vote, they can make a choice.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    WE THE PEOPLE will make clear to the US House of Representatives that , assuming that Biden gets 270 EC votes, those votes are not reliable because they were acquired through FRAUD. and must be overruled.

    I've already explained how that's legally impossible. You've drunk way too much of the Trump Kool-Aid to face reality. But go ahead -- wallow in your paranoid fantasies if that's what comforts you. The rest of the world will get along quite nicely.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    I've already explained how that's legally impossible. You've drunk way too much of the Trump Kool-Aid to face reality. But go ahead -- wallow in your paranoid fantasies if that's what comforts you. The rest of the world will get along quite nicely.
    I have already explained to you that in 1825 the House of Representatives elected John Quincy Adams even though Andrew Jackson won the popular vote.

    The present electoral fraud is unprecedented in our constitutional republic. There is no way that the House of Representatives can ignore the Grand Theft.

    It appears that from your standpoint ignorance is bliss. Buy some land in Idaho , make it a socialist Republic and you Biden and Kama-Lie live in peace. But if you try to force all of us to live under tyranny then you are venturing into real rough waters.

    TaTa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    I have already explained to you that in 1825 the House of Representatives elected John Quincy Adams even though Andrew Jackson won the popular vote.

    The present electoral fraud is unprecedented in our constitutional republic. There is no way that the House of Representatives can ignore the Grand Theft.

    It appears that from your standpoint ignorance is bliss. Buy some land in Idaho , make it a socialist Republic and you Biden and Kama-Lie live in peace. But if you try to force all of us to live under tyranny then you are venturing into real rough waters.

    TaTa
    You do realize the democrats control the house?

    and socialists wouldn't last a week in Idaho...

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    You do realize the democrats control the house?



    and socialists wouldn't last a week in Idaho...
    That’s irrelevant.

    Pursuant to the 17th Amendment each state delegation constitutes 1 vote, en bloc .

    Republicans control 26 state delegations.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    That’s irrelevant.

    Pursuant to the 17th Amendment each state delegation constitutes 1 vote, en bloc .

    Republicans control 26 state delegations.
    You are setting yourself up for a major disappointment when everything goes normally. No politicians are going to throw away their careers for Trump.

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    You are setting yourself up for a major disappointment when everything goes normally. No politicians are going to throw away their careers for Trump.
    You are missing the point my naive and gullible friend.

    They wouldn’t be defending Trump, they would be defending the Constitution and our freedoms.

    If you allow the Deep State to get away with Murder that’s the end of our Constitutional Republic.

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    You are missing the point my naive and gullible friend.

    They wouldn’t be defending Trump, they would be defending the Constitution and our freedoms.

    If you allow the Deep State to get away with Murder that’s the end of our Constitutional Republic.
    You think politicians care about the constitution?

    Who is naive?



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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    That is just fine with TPTB and all the flag waving Trump supporters are playing right into their hands in starting something like that. The only way that mankind gets out of this in any sort of ok shape is to just stop complying. Period, end of story. Don't get violent, dont get mad, just say no and mean it. But, the way that humankind has been manipulated over the centuries this is impossible.
    Correct. Stop complying and do this: sonsoflibertyso.com
    "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." - Thomas Jefferson

    "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds" - Sam Adams

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    You think politicians care about the constitution?

    Who is naive?
    I hope they understand that in allowing the Deep State - CIA & Intelligence Agencies - to select the President that is the end of political parties.

    What would be the purpose of political parties when Gina Haspel and Company know what is good for us?!?!?!?!?!?

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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    I have already explained to you that in 1825 the House of Representatives elected John Quincy Adams even though Andrew Jackson won the popular vote.
    That's irrelevant. The House got involved because no candidate got a majority of the electoral votes, unlike 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The present electoral fraud is unprecedented in our constitutional republic. There is no way that the House of Representatives can ignore the Grand Theft.
    Trump's claims of fraud have never been proven in court; to the contrary, they've been consistently rejected. In fact, in some cases his attorneys haven't even pleaded fraud because they know they have no evidence of it.

    More important, you continue to fail to understand the House has no legal authority to vote on who should be President once the States have certified their electors by December 8.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

  17. #44
    Something tells me it's not going to be that easy.
    "Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration is minding my own business."

    Calvin Coolidge

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    I Hereby want to salute the Honorable Rand Paul (R-Ky) and Matt Gaetz (R-Fl) in their attempt to safeguard the integrity and sanctity of the US Elections and that of the Republic itself pursuant to the 1887 Electoral Count Act.


    They must do whatever they can do to subvert the will of the CIA Rogue Group and/or whomever masterminded the gargantuan ELECTION FRAUD .




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  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    And my point is, that those who wish to see us as cattle are spurring on that very eventuality. For their benefit. Case in point.. People that have spent decades warning about the fed gov issuing martial law to turn us all into slaves, are now vehemently calling for martial law. The right is being played just like the left was played over the last 8-12 yrs.
    where have you been? Hear, hear!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    I Hereby want to salute the Honorable Rand Paul (R-Ky) and Matt Gaetz (R-Fl) in their attempt to safeguard the integrity and sanctity of the US Elections and that of the Republic itself pursuant to the 1887 Electoral Count Act.
    I suggest you actually read the act. Both the House and Senate have to agree on any objections (which are limited to whether the votes were "regularly given" by the certified electors), and votes in the House are taken by member, not by state delegations.

    3 USC 15

    Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. The Senate and House of Representatives shall meet in the Hall of the House of Representatives at the hour of 1 o’clock in the afternoon on that day, and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer. Two tellers shall be previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two on the part of the House of Representatives, to whom shall be handed, as they are opened by the President of the Senate, all the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the electoral votes, which certificates and papers shall be opened, presented, and acted upon in the alphabetical order of the States, beginning with the letter A; and said tellers, having then read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses, shall make a list of the votes as they shall appear from the said certificates; and the votes having been ascertained and counted according to the rules in this subchapter provided, the result of the same shall be delivered to the President of the Senate, who shall thereupon announce the state of the vote, which announcement shall be deemed a sufficient declaration of the persons, if any, elected President and Vice President of the United States, and, together with a list of the votes, be entered on the Journals of the two Houses. Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision; and no electoral vote or votes from any State which shall have been regularly given by electors whose appointment has been lawfully certified to according to section 6 of this title from which but one return has been received shall be rejected, but the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes when they agree that such vote or votes have not been so regularly given by electors whose appointment has been so certified. If more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State shall have been received by the President of the Senate, those votes, and those only, shall be counted which shall have been regularly given by the electors who are shown by the determination mentioned in section 5 of this title to have been appointed, if the determination in said section provided for shall have been made, or by such successors or substitutes, in case of a vacancy in the board of electors so ascertained, as have been appointed to fill such vacancy in the mode provided by the laws of the State; but in case there shall arise the question which of two or more of such State authorities determining what electors have been appointed, as mentioned in section 5 of this title, is the lawful tribunal of such State, the votes regularly given of those electors, and those only, of such State shall be counted whose title as electors the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide is supported by the decision of such State so authorized by its law; and in such case of more than one return or paper purporting to be a return from a State, if there shall have been no such determination of the question in the State aforesaid, then those votes, and those only, shall be counted which the two Houses shall concurrently decide were cast by lawful electors appointed in accordance with the laws of the State, unless the two Houses, acting separately, shall concurrently decide such votes not to be the lawful votes of the legally appointed electors of such State. But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted. When the two Houses have voted, they shall immediately again meet, and the presiding officer shall then announce the decision of the questions submitted. No votes or papers from any other State shall be acted upon until the objections previously made to the votes or papers from any State shall have been finally disposed of.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous



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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    I suggest you actually read the act. Both the House and Senate have to agree on any objections (which are limited to whether the votes were "regularly given" by the certified electors), and votes in the House are taken by member, not by state delegations.
    Being there , done that, got the T Shirt


    Be a good American , let's all unite before the REAL President Elect




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  24. #50
    I posted this thread/article in Sept 2019. Interesting how OP's narrative is, so far, pretty closely following the events laid out in it. Any unbinding of electoral college voters could lead to a 3rd party candidate receiving votes....

    Could our next President be a Libertarian?
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-a-Libertarian

    Because of the Electoral College system of voting, third-party candidates have a better chance of winning than most people think. If no candidate gets a majority of the electoral votes, the House of Representatives chooses the president from among the three candidates with the most electoral votes.

    To be in the running, all that a third-party candidate must do is receive enough electoral votes to ensure that neither the Democratic nor Republican nominee wins an Electoral College majority, in which case the “spoiler” becomes a credible final contender. In a close race, the candidate might need to win just one state to send the election to the House of Representatives.

    At that point, the third-party candidate would have to convince members of the House to vote for him or her rather than for the major-party candidates. It's unlikely, but not impossible. It depends on who's running.
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    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by devil21 View Post
    I posted this thread/article in Sept 2019. Interesting how OP's narrative is, so far, pretty closely following the events laid out in it. Any unbinding of electoral college voters could lead to a 3rd party candidate receiving votes....

    Could our next President be a Libertarian?
    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...-a-Libertarian
    Very interrrrrrrresting


    In that case I have two dogs in the fight


    I have no objections to President Elect Jorgensen










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  26. #52
    I Hereby want to amend my salute in order to include the following Congresspersons who have pledged to safeguard the integrity and sanctity of the US Elections and that of the Republic itself pursuant to the 1887 Electoral Count Act;

    They must do whatever they can do to subvert the will of the CIA Rogue Group and/or whomever masterminded the gargantuan ELECTION FRAUD

    The Honorable

    Rand Paul (R-Ky)
    Matt Gaetz (R-Fl)
    Mo Brooks (R-Al)
    Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga)







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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    That is just fine with TPTB and all the flag waving Trump supporters are playing right into their hands in starting something like that. The only way that mankind gets out of this in any sort of ok shape is to just stop complying. Period, end of story. Don't get violent, dont get mad, just say no and mean it. But, the way that humankind has been manipulated over the centuries this is impossible.
    The only way that succeeds and you don't become a lone history erased martyr is when it's a collective NO. There has to be a large movement for a tipping point

    Unfortunately saying no is met with force and the only options are to comply, passive resist or to actively resist. Do you really think there are that many liberty lovers who would be able to do that consistently.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever..... just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

  28. #54
    Some of you all are still in dreamland if you think this turns out any different than Biden holding up his right hand and Trump heading back to his skyscraper Jan 20.
    The wisdom of Swordy:

    On bringing the troops home
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    They are coming home, all the naysayers said they would never leave Syria and then they said they were going to stay in Iraq forever..... just like Trump said.

    On fighting corruption:
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Trump had to donate the "right way" and hang out with the "right people" in order to do business in NYC and Hollyweird and in order to investigate and expose them.
    Fascism Defined

  29. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by bv3 View Post
    where have you been? Hear, hear!
    This dude has been down quite the long road, and just now starting to see it more clearly. But, it is nice to be back and engaging again.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    The only way that succeeds and you don't become a lone history erased martyr is when it's a collective NO. There has to be a large movement for a tipping point

    Unfortunately saying no is met with force and the only options are to comply, passive resist or to actively resist. Do you really think there are that many liberty lovers who would be able to do that consistently.
    That's why I said it's currently impossible. Centuries of division between mankind, for a whole myriad of reasons. Does not make it untrue.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep



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  32. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    This dude has been down quite the long road, and just now starting to see it more clearly. But, it is nice to be back and engaging again.
    Welcome the $#@! back! and well met!

  33. #58
    Republicans better cease the b u l l s h i t of they will no longer be an opposition party


    Tom Cotton: House Democrats Want National Mandate for Vote-by-Mail, Ballot Harvesting, Ending Photo-ID for Voting





    Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) noted on Wednesday’s edition of SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Daily how House Democrats’ legislative priorities include a national mandate for mail-in voting, legalization of ballot harvesting, and ending photo-ID requirements for voting.

    Cotton continued, “[H.R. 1 would] impose draconian restrictions on campaign spending, so Republicans and conservatives can’t spend our own money to get our message out while the Democrats rely on tech giants and the mainstream media to get their message out. So unfortunately, I don’t see Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats in the House taking many steps to protect the interior of our elections, so it’ll really be incumbent upon Republicans at the state level — especially in those states that have have had troubled elections [and] have the biggest problems — over the next two to four years — like Pennsylvania, like Michigan, like Wisconsin — to take steps to protect the integrity of their ballots.”


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    So Republican Senators, if the fraud in Georgia continues

    exercise your authority , Pursuant to Article 1, Section 5 , and REFUSE to seat those who were elected via FRAUD !!!!!!!!!!!


    The Democrats will not have any qualms about destroying you.

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  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Todd View Post
    Some of you all are still in dreamland if you think this turns out any different than Biden holding up his right hand and Trump heading back to his skyscraper Jan 20.
    I would be surprised if he went back to NYC, to be honest, for both tax and legal reasons.

    I'd imagine that he'll be courted by other places to locate the HQ of his foundation and cult there.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    I have no objections to President Elect Jorgensen
    Banned
    "It's probably the biggest hoax since Big Foot!" - Mitt Romney 1-16-2012 SC Debate

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