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    Republicans Relax : Prez Election will be decided by US House of Representatives via the 12th

    Summary

    The 12thAmendment to the Constitution requires that candidates for President and Vice President receive a majority of electoral votes (currently 270 or more of a total of 538) to be elected.

    If no candidate receives a majority, the President is elected by the House of Representatives (which occurred once, in 1825), and the Vice President is elected by the Senate (which also occurred once, in 1837). This process is known as contingent election.The 12thAmendment prescribes some contingent election procedures for the President: the President is elected from among the three candidates who received the most electoral votes; each state casts a single vote for President; a majority (26 or more) state votes is required to elect a President; the House must vote “immediately” to the exclusion of all other business, and by secret paper ballot.

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    There is no way that WE THE PEOPLE - 80,000,000 strong will allow President Trump to concede . Controversies will remain past December 14th. .


    On a state-by-state basis, Republicans have the majority of 26 state delegations while Democrats control 22.

    So Don't worry about corrupt Demo Rats and RINO governors "certifying" elections.

    If the US House of Representatives is paying attention they should have seen the gargantuan amount of corruption and fraud .

    Consequently , WE THE PEOPLE will win again. Thank you Founding Fathers for the 12th Amendment.

    Hallelujah.

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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    What makes you think Biden won't get a majority of the votes in the Electoral College? Maybe you think Sidney "Bat$#@! Crazy" Powell and the ghost of Hugo Chavez will be able to find 37 faithless electors in the next two weeks -- is that it?
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    What makes you think Biden won't get a majority of the votes in the Electoral College? Maybe you think Sidney "Bat$#@! Crazy" Powell and the ghost of Hugo Chavez will be able to find 37 faithless electors in the next two weeks -- is that it?
    Based on the overwhelming amount of evidence demonstrating rampant ELECTORAL FRAUD the US House of Representatives will conclude that the EC Votes are not credible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    What makes you think Biden won't get a majority of the votes in the Electoral College? Maybe you think Sidney "Bat$#@! Crazy" Powell and the ghost of Hugo Chavez will be able to find 37 faithless electors in the next two weeks -- is that it?
    I would like to see the Electoral College vote Unanimously for Trump (out of Principle),, just to witness the Media Conniption Fit.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Based on the overwhelming amount of evidence demonstrating rampant ELECTORAL FRAUD the US House of Representatives will conclude that the EC Votes are not credible.
    If that doesn't happen, will it be because you're wrong, or because the conspiracy is even bigger than you thought?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If that doesn't happen, will it be because you're wrong, or because the conspiracy is even bigger than you thought?
    You do the math:


    Schumer: Intelligence Agencies ‘Have Six Ways From Sunday Of Getting Back At You’


    "Harder to address, though, is the other half of the story—something Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer spoke of in glee, in response to then-president-elect Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies. “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.


    Schumer wasn’t alone in warning of U.S. intelligence agencies’ penchant for politicized revenge. A little over a week later, Daniel Benjamin, who had served as the principal counterterrorism advisor for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, scripted the scenario for Politico Magazine, writing:

    Leakers and whistleblowers won’t hesitate. What [former Deputy CIA Director] Morell and other intelligence veterans are too decorous to mention is that Trump’s treatment of his spies will also come back to bite him in the form of leaking and whistleblowing. The intelligence community doesn’t leak as much as the Pentagon or Congress, but when its reputation is at stake, it can do so to devastating effect."
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    You do the math:


    Schumer: Intelligence Agencies ‘Have Six Ways From Sunday Of Getting Back At You’


    "Harder to address, though, is the other half of the story—something Democrat Sen. Chuck Schumer spoke of in glee, in response to then-president-elect Trump’s criticism of U.S. intelligence agencies. “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you,” Schumer told MSNBC’s host Rachel Maddow.


    Schumer wasn’t alone in warning of U.S. intelligence agencies’ penchant for politicized revenge. A little over a week later, Daniel Benjamin, who had served as the principal counterterrorism advisor for former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, scripted the scenario for Politico Magazine, writing:

    Leakers and whistleblowers won’t hesitate. What [former Deputy CIA Director] Morell and other intelligence veterans are too decorous to mention is that Trump’s treatment of his spies will also come back to bite him in the form of leaking and whistleblowing. The intelligence community doesn’t leak as much as the Pentagon or Congress, but when its reputation is at stake, it can do so to devastating effect."
    And by "leaking" he means making up bull$#@! and passing it off to the NYT as an "anonymous source."

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    And by "leaking" he means making up bull$#@! and passing it off to the NYT as an "anonymous source."
    Exactly.

    For 4 years the president had to endure numerous coup attempts disguised as impeachment because the scumbags in the CIA and “intelligence agencies “ wanted to teach him a lesson.

    The lesson includes electoral fraud without a trace because the bastards believe that they are that good. Sidney Powell will teach a lesson they will never forget.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    If that doesn't happen, will it be because you're wrong, or because the conspiracy is even bigger than you thought?
    Unlike Communist Bernie sanders, Trump is not going them allow to steal the election from him.
    Trump is going to win at the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Based on the overwhelming amount of evidence demonstrating rampant ELECTORAL FRAUD the US House of Representatives will conclude that the EC Votes are not credible.
    It'll never happen. You're under the mistaken impression that in determining the legitimacy of the electoral votes the 12th Amendment's vote-by-state procedure will be used, but that procedure is to be used only to choose a President after it's been previously determined that no one has received a majority of the electoral votes. The procedure for hearing and resolving objections to electoral votes is set out in 3 USC 15, which specifies that the House and Senate are to vote separately on all objections, and there's no provision for voting by state. The procedure has been used only twice since the statute was enacted in 1887, and in both instances the objections were voted on in both houses by roll call votes. See footnotes 11 and 13 in the link below.

    In addition, the statute provides that where a state has submitted only one certified electoral return the electors' votes may be rejected only if they were not "regularly given". Presumably this refers to things like forged votes or votes that were obtained by bribery.

    Here's a good discussion of the congressional procedure in counting the votes: https://crsreports.congress.gov/prod.../RL/RL32717/12
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    It'll never happen. You're under the mistaken impression that in determining the legitimacy of the electoral votes the 12th Amendment's vote-by-state procedure will be used, but that procedure is to be used only to choose a President after it's been previously determined that no one has received a majority of the electoral votes. The procedure for hearing and resolving objections to electoral votes is set out in 3 USC 15, which specifies that the House and Senate are to vote separately on all objections, and there's no provision for voting by state. The procedure has been used only twice since the statute was enacted in 1887, and in both instances the objections were voted on in both houses by roll call votes. See footnotes 11 and 13 in the link below.

    In addition, the statute provides that where a state has submitted only one certified electoral return the electors' votes may be rejected only if they were not "regularly given". Presumably this refers to things like forged votes or votes that were obtained by bribery.

    Here's a good discussion of the congressional procedure in counting the votes: https://crsreports.congress.gov/prod.../RL/RL32717/12
    3 USC 5 - the safe harbor provision requires all controversies resolved by December 8th, 2020.

    WE THE PEOPLE - 80,000,000 + - have requested that the Honorable Donald J Trump remain in the Whitehouse until we are satisfied that Biden won lawfully and validly. Given the gargantuan amount of evidence showing that there is electoral fraud there is no way that this matter will be decided by December 8th, 2020.

    Therefore , Have your Friendly congrescritter decipher the following for you :



    592 U.S.__(2020)


    DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, ET AL.


    v.


    WISCONSIN STATE LEGISLATURE, ET AL.


    No. 20A66


    United States Supreme Court


    October 26, 2020




    "For important reasons, most States, including Wisconsin, require absentee ballots to be received by election day, not just mailed by election day. Those States want to avoid the chaos and suspicions of impropriety that can ensue if thousands of absentee ballots flow in after election day and potentially flip the results of an election. And those States also want to be able to definitively announce the results of the election on election night, or as soon as possible thereafter. Moreover, particularly in a Presidential election, counting all the votes quickly can help the State promptly resolve any disputes, address any need for recounts, and begin the process of canvassing and certifying the election results in an expeditious manner. See 3 U.S.C. §5. The States are aware of the risks described by Professor Pildes: "[L] ate-arriving ballots open up one of the greatest risks of what might, in our era of hyperpolarized political parties and existential politics, destabilize the election result. If the apparent winner the morning after the election ends up losing due to late-arriving ballots, charges of a rigged election could explode." Pildes, How to Accommodate a Massive Surge in Absentee Voting, U. Chi. L. Rev. Online (June 26, 2020) (online source archived at www.supremecourt.gov). The "longer after Election Day any significant changes in vote totals take place, the greater the risk that the losing side will cry that the election has been stolen." Ibid."


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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy View Post
    Unlike Communist Bernie sanders, Trump is not going them allow to steal the election from him.
    Trump is going to win at the end.
    And if he doesn't?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    This all assumes that there are no Republican defections in the House. I'm not at all convinced it can't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    And if he doesn't?
    Then you better hope you are well prepared for the war it will start.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Then you better hope you are well prepared for the war it will start.
    That is just fine with TPTB and all the flag waving Trump supporters are playing right into their hands in starting something like that. The only way that mankind gets out of this in any sort of ok shape is to just stop complying. Period, end of story. Don't get violent, dont get mad, just say no and mean it. But, the way that humankind has been manipulated over the centuries this is impossible.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    That is just fine with TPTB and all the flag waving Trump supporters are playing right into their hands in starting something like that.
    STOP RIGHT THERE
    Phuck You

    It is not the "right"wing Trump Supporters that have been bringing Violence..

    It is not them Threatening Violence..


    I am simply and Honestly Warning you..

    It is getting more likely they will respond to the continued Violence.
    You won't like that.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom



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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    STOP RIGHT THERE
    Phuck You

    It is not the "right"wing Trump Supporters that have been bringing Violence..

    It is not them Threatening Violence..


    I am simply and Honestly Warning you..

    It is getting more likely they will respond to the continued Violence.
    You won't like that.
    You're falling into the trap that the leftists did towards the end of Obama's presidency and throughout Trumps. It's just the right's turn to be radicalized. And please, I didnt attack you, dont speak to me that way I dont deserve it.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by belian78 View Post
    And please, I didnt attack you, dont speak to me that way I dont deserve it.
    I am falling for Nothing..I am Observing..

    I was called a Domestic Terrorist by the Leftist Government.

    The PEACEFUL PEOPLE KEEP BEING THREATENED,,AND THEY WILL STOP BEING PEACEFUL..

    Steal An Election. Watch what happens.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Then you better hope you are well prepared for the war it will start.
    And if no war starts?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    And if no war starts?
    Steal An Election. Watch what happens.

    Personally I think a Fractured group of Independent States might be less threat to the World.

    so bring it
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Steal An Election. Watch what happens.

    Personally I think a Fractured group of Independent States might be less threat to the World.

    so bring it
    I'm just wondering what, if anything, you will think if your expectations and predictions do not come true.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I'm just wondering what, if anything, you will think if your expectations and predictions do not come true.
    I will no doubt be more comfortable.

    that doesn't happen much in my life
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by familydog View Post
    This all assumes that there are no Republican defections in the House. I'm not at all convinced it can't happen.
    On a state-by-state basis, Republicans have the majority of 26 state delegations while Democrats control 22.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    STOP RIGHT THERE
    Phuck You

    It is not the "right"wing Trump Supporters that have been bringing Violence..

    It is not them Threatening Violence..


    I am simply and Honestly Warning you..

    It is getting more likely they will respond to the continued Violence.
    You won't like that.
    spot on
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    WE THE PEOPLE - 80,000,000 + - have requested that the Honorable Donald J Trump remain in the Whitehouse until we are satisfied that Biden won lawfully and validly.
    Not all of the people who voted for Trump (only about 74 million at last count) have swallowed the paranoid conspiracy theories Trump's bat$#@! crazy supporters have thrown against the wall in a vain attempt to see if something might stick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Given the gargantuan amount of evidence showing that there is electoral fraud
    Even Trump's lapdog Mr. Barr found no such evidence.


    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, ET AL.


    v.


    WISCONSIN STATE LEGISLATURE, ET AL.


    No. 20A66


    United States Supreme Court


    October 26, 2020
    The quote is from Justice Kavanaugh's concurring opinion in the denial of an application to vacate a stay of a lower court's injunction extending the period within which absentee ballots could be received in Wisconsin. His reference to 3 USC 5 reinforces my original point that it is up to the States, not Congress, to determine the validity of the votes that chose a State's electors, and if a State meets the safe harbor deadline set out in Section 5, its determination of who its electors are "shall be conclusive, and shall govern in the counting of the electoral votes as provided in the Constitution, and as hereinafter regulated, so far as the ascertainment of the electors appointed by such State is concerned."

    In other words, your scenario in which the GOP-controlled state delegations in the House are going to elect Trump ain't gonna happen.

    You should also read Chief Justice Roberts's concurring opinion in which he noted that the Wisconsin case was different from the Pennsylvania case in which the deadline for mail-in ballots was extended: "While the Pennsylvania applications implicated the authority of state courts to apply their own constitutions to election regulations, this case involves federal intrusion on state lawmaking processes. Different bodies of law and different precedents govern these two situations and require, in these particular circumstances, that we allow the modification of election rules in Pennsylvania but not Wisconsin."
    Last edited by Sonny Tufts; 12-02-2020 at 05:24 PM.
    We have long had death and taxes as the two standards of inevitability. But there are those who believe that death is the preferable of the two. "At least," as one man said, "there's one advantage about death; it doesn't get worse every time Congress meets."
    Erwin N. Griswold

    Taxes: Of life's two certainties, the only one for which you can get an automatic extension.
    Anonymous

  30. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    I am falling for Nothing..I am Observing..

    I was called a Domestic Terrorist by the Leftist Government.

    The PEACEFUL PEOPLE KEEP BEING THREATENED,,AND THEY WILL STOP BEING PEACEFUL..

    Steal An Election. Watch what happens.
    And my point is, that those who wish to see us as cattle are spurring on that very eventuality. For their benefit. Case in point.. People that have spent decades warning about the fed gov issuing martial law to turn us all into slaves, are now vehemently calling for martial law. The right is being played just like the left was played over the last 8-12 yrs.
    "The issue is that you to define the best candidate solely based upon what they stand for." - CaptLouAlbano

    This is the mindset trying to take hold on RPF.

    "Kelly Thomas did this to himself." - FrankRep

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny Tufts View Post
    Not all of the people who voted for Trump (only about 74 million at last count) have swallowed the paranoid conspiracy theories Trump's bat$#@! crazy supporters have thrown against the wall in a vain attempt to see if something might stick.



    Even Trump's lapdog Mr. Barr found no such evidence.




    The quote is from Justice Kavanaugh's concurring opinion in the denial of an application to vacate a stay of a lower court's injunction extending the period within which absentee ballots could be received in Wisconsin. His reference to 3 USC 5 reinforces my original point that it is up to the States, not Congress, to determine the validity of the votes that chose a State's electors, and if a State meets the safe harbor deadline set out in Section 5, its determination of who its electors are "shall be conclusive, and shall govern in the counting of the electoral votes as provided in the Constitution, and as hereinafter regulated, so far as the ascertainment of the electors appointed by such State is concerned."

    In other words, your scenario in which the GOP-controlled state delegations in the House are going to elect Trump ain't gonna happen.

    You should also read Chief Justice Roberts's concurring opinion in which he noted that the Wisconsin case was different from the Pennsylvania case in which the deadline for mail-in ballots was extended: "While the Pennsylvania applications implicated the authority of state courts to apply their own constitutions to election regulations, this case involves federal intrusion on state lawmaking processes. Different bodies of law and different precedents govern these two situations and require, in these particular circumstances, that we allow the modification of election rules in Pennsylvania but not Wisconsin."
    Here is the video of the STOP THE STEAL rally in Atlanta Georgia - as you can see WE THE PEOPLE are not going to be fool by the Deep State, its Fake News Media or the Demo Rats Hierarchy

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...am-rsbn-video/

    William Barr is a treasonous scumbag


    As you can see by the gigantic crowd in Atlanta , by December 8th, 2020 , WE THE PEOPLE will make clear to the US House of Representatives that , assuming that Biden gets 270 EC votes, those votes are not reliable because they were acquired through FRAUD. and must be overruled.
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    If you believe any of this nonsense will actually happen you are delusional.

  33. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    If you believe any of this nonsense will actually happen you are delusional.
    Well you are lazy and kinda dumb if you don't think massive amounts of voter fraud has already been exposed.
    "He's talkin' to his gut like it's a person!!" -me
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    "You don't need a medical degree to spot obvious bullshit, that's actually a separate skill." -Scott Adams
    "When you are divided, and angry, and controlled, you target those 'different' from you, not those responsible [controllers]" -Q

    "Each of us must choose which course of action we should take: education, conventional political action, or even peaceful civil disobedience to bring about necessary changes. But let it not be said that we did nothing." - Ron Paul

    "Paul said "the wave of the future" is a coalition of anti-authoritarian progressive Democrats and libertarian Republicans in Congress opposed to domestic surveillance, opposed to starting new wars and in favor of ending the so-called War on Drugs."

  34. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    Well you are lazy and kinda dumb if you don't think massive amounts of voter fraud has already been exposed.
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