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    Post Mika: Trump losing each state 3 times, traumatized repeatedy; Sidney Powell files GA, MI suits

    Mika B of Morning Joe covered Trump Psychlogy this week and claimed he was being 'traumatized' again and again by losing each state 3 times.
    At one point Mika and Joe had become friends with Trump but somethng went wrong later and there was an alleged blackmail event involving Trump son-in-law and Enquirer mag.

    However none of that media pundits talk is putting a dent in dedication of Sidney Powell and Co. who have filed more lawsuits in order to recover 'stolen election' made possible due to efforts of Dems and zionists, allegedly.



    Ex-Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell files lawsuits in Michigan, Georgia

    By Jordan Williams - 11/26/20

    Sidney Powell, the lawyer recently distanced from the Trump campaign, on Wednesday filed typo-filled lawsuits in both Michigan and Georgia alleging election fraud.
    The suits alleged problems linked to voting machines, mail-in ballots and former Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, according to Bloomberg. Powell repeatedly made the accusations without providing evidence while she was a member of the Trump campaign’s legal team.
    The new suits also included allegations about forged ballots and observers being unable to watch vote tabulation, Bloomberg reported.

    President Trump and his allies have repeatedly alleged that the election was riddled with widespread voter fraud without providing any evidence.
    Both of the cases filed by Powell were riddled with typographical issues.
    The case in Michigan had a number of formatting problems that removed spacing between words, Bloomberg reported. In the Georgia suit, the word district was misspelled twice on the first page of the document: There was an extra c for “DISTRICCT,” and then it was spelled “DISTRCOICT.”
    The Trump campaign distanced itself from Powell on Sunday after she made a series of increasingly convoluted and baseless allegations about voter fraud.
    She previously appeared alongside former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and other members of the campaign’s legal team, including at a widely criticized press conference last week detailing the campaign’s unsuccessful efforts to halt or overturn the certification results in several battleground states that were called by media outlets for President-elect Joe Biden.

    hehill.com/homenews/campaign/527679-ex-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-files-typo-filled-lawsuits-in-michigan


    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Without providing evidence?

    Wtf?

    This was a VERIFIED COMPLAINT

    So what are you talking about ?!?!?!?!?!
    Not sure who you were directing your question to, The Hill reporter probably may not have read this thread and my view is stated above.



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    Bobblehead bobble heading.

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    Wow... Let's look at this article objectively, shall we? Maybe we can see how many falsehoods, redirections and opinions we can find.

    Ex-Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell files lawsuits in Michigan, Georgia

    By Jordan Williams - 11/26/20

    Sidney Powell, the lawyer recently distanced (factual, and slightly relevant) from the Trump campaign, on Wednesday filed typo-filled (unnecessary negative characterization) lawsuits in both Michigan and Georgia alleging election fraud.
    The suits alleged problems linked to voting machines, mail-in ballots and former Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez (linking these 3 elements without context is an attempt to mislead), according to Bloomberg (3rd party citation). Powell repeatedly made the accusations without providing evidence (fabrication) while she was a member of the Trump campaign’s legal team.
    The new suits also included allegations about forged ballots and observers being unable to watch vote tabulation, Bloomberg reported (3rd party citation).

    President Trump and his allies have repeatedly alleged that the election was riddled with widespread voter fraud without providing any evidence (fabrication).
    Both of the cases filed by Powell were riddled with typographical issues. (unnecessary negative characterization)
    The case in Michigan had a number of formatting problems that removed spacing between words (unnecessary negative characterization) , Bloomberg reported (3rd party citation). In the Georgia suit, the word district was misspelled twice (unnecessary negative characterization) on the first page of the document: There was an extra c for “DISTRICCT,” and then it was spelled “DISTRCOICT.” (unnecessary negative characterizations)
    The Trump campaign distanced itself from Powell on Sunday after she made a series of increasingly convoluted (unnecessary negative characterization) and baseless (fabrication) allegations about voter fraud.
    She previously appeared alongside former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and other members of the campaign’s legal team, including at a widely criticized (unnecessary negative characterization) press conference last week detailing the campaign’s unsuccessful efforts to halt or overturn the certification results in several battleground states that were called by media outlets for President-elect Joe Biden.

    hehill.com/homenews/campaign/527679-ex-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-files-typo-filled-lawsuits-in-michigan
    This is what our media has become. No intelligent discussion of the issues raised whatsoever. Just a piece created to diminish any investigative analysis of the vote. They literally focus on the formatting and the legal haste instead of one point of substance. To cast a specific politician in a bad light. And with outright lies.

    And some in here want to let this slide?!??!
    Last edited by CaptUSA; 11-26-2020 at 09:54 PM.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Mika B of Morning Joe covered Trump Psychlogy this week and claimed he was being 'traumatized' again and again by losing each state 3 times.
    At one point Mika and Joe had become friends with Trump but somethng went wrong later and there was an alleged blackmail event involving Trump son-in-law and Enquirer mag.

    However none of that media pundits talk is putting a dent in dedication of Sidney Powell and Co. who have filed more lawsuits in order to recover 'stolen election' made possible due to efforts of Dems and zionists, allegedly.



    Ex-Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell files lawsuits in Michigan, Georgia

    By Jordan Williams - 11/26/20

    Sidney Powell, the lawyer recently distanced from the Trump campaign, on Wednesday filed typo-filled lawsuits in both Michigan and Georgia alleging election fraud.
    The suits alleged problems linked to voting machines, mail-in ballots and former Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez, according to Bloomberg. Powell repeatedly made the accusations without providing evidence while she was a member of the Trump campaign’s legal team.
    The new suits also included allegations about forged ballots and observers being unable to watch vote tabulation, Bloomberg reported.

    President Trump and his allies have repeatedly alleged that the election was riddled with widespread voter fraud without providing any evidence.
    Both of the cases filed by Powell were riddled with typographical issues.
    The case in Michigan had a number of formatting problems that removed spacing between words, Bloomberg reported. In the Georgia suit, the word district was misspelled twice on the first page of the document: There was an extra c for “DISTRICCT,” and then it was spelled “DISTRCOICT.”
    The Trump campaign distanced itself from Powell on Sunday after she made a series of increasingly convoluted and baseless allegations about voter fraud.
    She previously appeared alongside former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani and other members of the campaign’s legal team, including at a widely criticized press conference last week detailing the campaign’s unsuccessful efforts to halt or overturn the certification results in several battleground states that were called by media outlets for President-elect Joe Biden.

    hehill.com/homenews/campaign/527679-ex-trump-lawyer-sidney-powell-files-typo-filled-lawsuits-in-michigan
    Without providing evidence?

    Wtf?

    This was a VERIFIED COMPLAINT

    So what are you talking about ?!?!?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    The suits alleged problems linked to voting machines, mail-in ballots and former Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez (linking these 3 elements without context is an attempt to mislead) [...]
    Michael Malice uses "Jenga" as an apt metaphor for the technique of slyly attempting to discredit one or more things by lumping them in together with some other discreditable thing or things (I've also seen the practice referred to as "laundry listing" and "poison pilling"):

    https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...60875762216965


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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Michael Malice uses "Jenga" as an apt metaphor for the technique of slyly attempting to discredit one or more things by lumping them in together with some other discreditable thing or things (I've also seen the practice referred to as "laundry listing" and "poison pilling"):
    ... but why were they included in the first place if they are so easily discreditable?
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ... but why were they included in the first place if they are so easily discreditable?
    Try reading that again....

    It's the context that is missing. Those things are different. "Hugo Chavez" sounds discreditable because it is unlikely that Hugo Chavez was trying to steal the election for Biden, but that's not what the complaint alleges. So without the true context, this is an attempt to mislead. You know this.
    "And now that the legislators and do-gooders have so futilely inflicted so many systems upon society, may they finally end where they should have begun: May they reject all systems, and try liberty; for liberty is an acknowledgment of faith in God and His works." - Bastiat

    "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ... but why were they included in the first place if they are so easily discreditable?
    Because they are regarded as being discreditable ("so easily" or otherwise) by the list maker who included them. That's the whole point.

    "Flat earthers" are widely regarded as being discreditable. That is why, for example, the list maker quoted in Malice's tweet included "flat earthers" in his list along with "election deniers." The assumed discreditability of the former is intended to imply the equivalent discreditability of the latter, without having to actually demonstrate it. (This is what Malice meant by "stacking a list of things to make them seem of equal [in]validity.")
    Last edited by Occam's Banana; 11-27-2020 at 12:37 AM.



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    Both Michael Malice and thecount engage in a literary technique call B U L L S H I T T I N G . When critics who do not the their ass from a hole in the ground use a shotgun approach hoping that something will hit.

    Otherwise the mofos would go paragraph by paragraph identify facts which are refutable and proceed along those lines.

    But since they lack the intelligence to do so they resort to smear .

    Patriots do not be misled by detractors, fraud was committed and we will prove it.

    Let Malice and thecount continue sucking the big wiener.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Both Michael Malice and thecount engage in a literary technique call B U L L S H I T T I N G . When critics who do not the their ass from a hole in the ground use a shotgun approach hoping that something will hit.

    Otherwise the mofos would go paragraph by paragraph identify facts which are refutable and proceed along those lines.

    But since they lack the intelligence to do so they resort to smear .

    Patriots do not be misled by detractors, fraud was committed and we will prove it.

    Let Malice and thecount continue sucking the big wiener.
    You're Your doing fine. Keep up the great work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    It's the context that is missing. Those things are different. "Hugo Chavez" sounds discreditable because it is unlikely that Hugo Chavez was trying to steal the election for Biden, but that's not what the complaint alleges. So without the true context, this is an attempt to mislead. You know this.
    The true context is just as dumb. An anonymous, redacted affidavit says that Chavez had fraudulent voting machines in Venezuela a decade ago, and he feels like maybe the US has those same fraudulent voting machines now.


    The Dominion voting systems, the Smartmatic technology software and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here in as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez to make sure he never lost an election after one constitutional referendum came out the way he did not want it to come out. We have one very strong witness who has explained how it all works. His affidavit is attached to the pleadings of Lin Wood in the lawsuit he filed in Georgia. It is a stunning, detailed affidavit because he was with Hugo Chavez while ... He was being briefed on how it worked, he was with Hugo Chavez when he saw it operate to make sure the election came out his way. That was the express purpose for creating this software. He has seen it operate and as soon as he saw the multiple states shut down the voting on the night of the election, he knew the same thing was happening here, that that was what had gone on.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    Mika B of Morning Joe
    Who cares what that treasonous "woman" has to say? The apple didn't fall far from the tree. Her father was a globalist du jour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The true context is just as dumb. An anonymous, redacted affidavit says that Chavez had fraudulent voting machines in Venezuela a decade ago, and he feels like maybe the US has those same fraudulent voting machines now.
    Do you understand the difference between hardware and software?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Otherwise the mofos would go paragraph by paragraph identify facts which are refutable and proceed along those lines.
    I have done that repeatedly in other threads, and in those threads you either vanished never to be heard from again, or else resorted to namecalling when you ran out of so-called evidence.


    The entire purpose behind Powell's (and Trump's) is to spam so many allegations so quickly that it's impractical to respond to each and every one. As each one is discredited, the bull$#@! artist simply forgets that allegation (or lawsuit) ever existed in the first place and moves on to the next, ad infinitum. It's a gish gallop.

    That is the entire reason why Trump and Powell are crowdsourcing other people's lies and reporting them as though they are facts. It produces a firehose of bull$#@! which costs the author nothing to fabricate and which in turn puts them in no legal jeopardy, aside from the unlikely possibility of rule 11 sanction.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyEagle View Post
    Do you understand the difference between hardware and software?
    Nobody missed you.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Nobody missed you.
    Yeah, most commies and their useful idiots, wouldn't.

    Was my question too much for you?
    Last edited by LibertyEagle; 11-27-2020 at 01:45 AM.
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    Identify by page and paragraph the allegation(s) where Ms Powell claims that Hugo Chavez is responsible for electoral fraud in Ga & Mi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Occam's Banana View Post
    Michael Malice uses "Jenga" as an apt metaphor for the technique of slyly attempting to discredit one or more things by lumping them in together with some other discreditable thing or things (I've also seen the practice referred to as "laundry listing" and "poison pilling"):

    https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/st...60875762216965
    Since day one of seeing the “Flat Earth” videos show up in the YouTube search results alongside the results for 9/11, Ron Paul, Tom Woods, school shootings, etc, I knew they were a FedGov operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptUSA View Post
    Wow... Let's look at this article objectively, shall we? Maybe we can see how many falsehoods, redirections and opinions we can find.



    This is what our media has become. No intelligent discussion of the issues raised whatsoever. Just a piece created to diminish any investigative analysis of the vote. They literally focus on the formatting and the legal haste instead of one point of substance. To cast a specific politician in a bad light. And with outright lies.

    And some in here want to let this slide?!??!
    Editorializing of the MSM news details is pretty much expected and just posted for the headline and skipped through much of it except typos part, should have added the usual disclaimer: MSM reporting, exercise caution.

    It's pretty universal across TV and print news since Nov 11 at least when PA was called by TV networks, almost every reporter in random sampling of ABC/Foxnews/MSNBC reportng , there was a manadatory addition of "despite no proof" when reporting on Trump/team claims on allaeged stolen election.


    More interesting part for me was Mika's commentary on Trump psychology, think there is some truth in it as many among millions of his supporters seem to be going through roller coaster of emotions in multiple cycles despite Foxnews/Tucker C/Laura I/Rush etc already starting to sing a different tune in break from official MAGA messaging.

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    I suspect rudderless, directionless GOP will continue to fall in media/lobbies trap and will fracture itself even more in the processes. Dems seem relatively much more dedicated in defending their big gummit/nanny state vision ( and in converting GOP into Dems B team) than GOP is about defending its vision (whatever that is).
    Another view from left wing neocons leaning media outlet. And left wing media seems to be the only game in town increasingly (except for couple of outlets like right wing neocons loaded Newsmax and a lone pro-MAGA right wing gay blogger run gatewaypundit?)

    The GOP is driving itself mad


    Damon Linker


    December 10, 2020

    On Wednesday afternoon, the phrase "civil war” was trending on Twitter.

    theweek.com/articles/954421/gop-driving-itself-mad

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    When are you people going to the understand that we are going through a color revolution designed and orchestrated by the CIA !?!?!?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    I suspect rudderless, directionless GOP will continue to fall in media/lobbies trap and will fracture itself even more in the processes. Dems seem relatively much more dedicated in defending their big gummit/nanny state vision
    Yep. The Democratic Party, Social Media, Legacy Media, and mandarins of the bureaucracy have successfully amalgamated themselves into a single, functional entity. Group think has triumphed over individual think in no small part due to the technology and services that we have become largely reliant upon as a nation. Desmond Morris was prescient in identifying the rise of the super-tribal creature.

    Our early tribal ancestor did not find this such a difficult problem. The demands of survival kept him busy. It required all his time and energy to stay alive, to find food and water, to defend his territory, to avoid his enemies, to breed and rear his young and to construct and maintain his shelter. Even when times were exceptionally bad, the challenges were at least comparatively straightforward. He can never have been subjected to the intricate and complex frustrations and conflicts that have become so typical of super-tribal existence. Nor is he likely to have suffered unduly from the boredom of gross under-stimulation that, paradoxically, super-tribal life can also impose. The advanced forms of the Stimulus Struggle are therefore a specialty of the urban animal. We find them in both urban men and in a particular kind of urban animal — the zoo inmate.

    Like the human zoo, the animal zoo provides its occupants with the security of regular food and water, protection from the elements and freedom from natural predators. It looks after their hygiene and their health. It may also, in certain cases, put them under severe strain. In this highly artificial condition, zoo animals, too, are forced to switch from the struggle for survival to the Stimulus Struggle. When there is too little input from the world around them, they have to contrive ways of increasing it.
    The amalgamation has become the zoo keeper providing most of our fellow Americans with the stimulus and security they have been conditioned to seek obsessively. The only question remaining, now that the zookeeper is in charge, what happens to the unruly creatures that soil their cages and fail to please their master.

    XNN
    Last edited by XNavyNuke; 12-12-2020 at 07:12 AM. Reason: change becomes to remaining
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    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    Yep. The Democratic Party, Social Media, Legacy Media, and mandarins of the bureaucracy have successfully amalgamated themselves into a single, functional entity. Group think has triumphed over individual think in no small part due to the technology and services that we have become largely reliant upon as a nation. Desmond Morris was prescient in identifying the rise of the super-tribal creature.

    The amalgamation has become the zoo keeper providing most of our fellow Americans with the stimulus and security they have been conditioned to seek obsessively. The only question remaining, now that the zookeeper is in charge, what happens to the unruly creatures that soil their cages and fail to please their master.
    XNN
    There is stunning lack of diversity of opinion within almost all of the MSM and some of the key topics are rarely even discussed relating to insanity of repeatedly failing beliefs and policies (from public interest POV). Apparently too tied up with celeberation of skin shades/lifestyle/gender/wedding cakes/bathroom diversity. There used to be bit of diversity between views on Foxnews vs NBC/CNN/CBS etc but lately that gap is also vanishing as progressive liberals/liberal conservatives complete takeover of almost all of MSM. But to be fair to media owners employees, corporate media has some inherent limitations.
    Now there was some talk of "Trump TV" emerging possibly ahead of 2024 Trump retransformation as Abe Lincoln 2.0 but some of his showbiz associates have suggested that was doomed to fail also.



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