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Thread: PA Hearing: 604,000 votes for Biden and 3,200 for Trump in 90 minutes

  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    The actual numbers, taken from Wikipedia (I know, but it's 4 AM) are as follow:
    Trump 3378263 votes, Biden 3459923. Biden won by just over one percent - nowhere nearly a landslide. Yet, in nearly nine percent of the total tally of 6838186 votes - the batch in question in the OP - he won by 99.947%. Ç'est impossible.
    The mail in votes are not a random sample of the state, nor are they a random sample of even a single precinct. They're self-selected Biden voters, because one party said to vote mail in and the other said not to.

    For the comparison that you're making, you'd need the dem/gop split of mail in votes specifically rather than total votes. I haven't seen that number released anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.



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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The mail in votes are not a random sample of the state, nor are they a random sample of even a single precinct. They're self-selected Biden voters, because one party said to vote mail in and the other said not to.

    For the comparison that you're making, you'd need the dem/gop split of mail in votes specifically rather than total votes. I haven't seen that number released anywhere.
    The mail in votes are most certainly random. They get mixed in. It skews the numbers a bit. It doesn't change it overwhelmingly.



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  5. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    The mail in votes are most certainly random. They get mixed in. It skews the numbers a bit. It doesn't change it overwhelmingly.
    PA wasn't allowed to count their ballots until after polls closed on election day, they were not mixed in, they were counted separately. The mail in ballots made up all the late-counted votes that night and the following days.

    Mail in ballots skewed so far left that even in the reddest counties, mail in ballots were generally for Biden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    PA wasn't allowed to count their ballots until after polls closed on election day, they were not mixed in, they were counted separately. The mail in ballots made up all the late-counted votes that night and the following days.

    Mail in ballots skewed so far left that even in the reddest counties, mail in ballots were generally for Biden.
    lol The mail ins are mixed in during the mailing out of the ballots and the mailing in of the ballots. You didn't respond to anything I said except to say hardly any republicans voted by mail when we know that's not true.

  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    PA wasn't allowed to count their ballots until after polls closed on election day, they were not mixed in, they were counted separately. The mail in ballots made up all the late-counted votes that night and the following days.

    Mail in ballots skewed so far left that even in the reddest counties, mail in ballots were generally for Biden.
    Who called those votes and was there an Republican or independent observer? The answer is "No" there wasn't. Without observation the whole process is bull$#@!. That's why the military vets in Athens, Tenn. used force of arms in McMinn county to stop the Democrat machine's steal. 74 years later the Democrat machine is STILL playing the same game.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    The mail ins are mixed in during the mailing out of the ballots and the mailing in of the ballots. You didn't respond to anything I said except to say hardly any republicans voted by mail when we know that's not true.
    I'm not sure what you mean. They're not mixed across precincts because they're sent back to the local election clerk. My absentee ballot came from and went back to my township clerk, for example.

    Also not sure how you "know that's not true." Do you have anything besides gut feeling to know that mail in ballots were not so heavily democratic?


    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    Who called those votes and was there an Republican or independent observer? The answer is "No" there wasn't.
    Yes, there were Republican and independent observers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I'm not sure what you mean. They're not mixed across precincts because they're sent back to the local election clerk. My absentee ballot came from and went back to my township clerk, for example.

    Also not sure how you "know that's not true." Do you have anything besides gut feeling to know that mail in ballots were not so heavily democratic?
    No the mail ins are not counted by every precinct. There are sent to specific locations. Maybe there are some places that have precincts count mailins. Or maybe you made it up.

  10. #38
    I'm just going by Wikipedia, so feel free to pull numbers elsewhere but I feel this is a good baseline.

    2016's "popular vote" numbers -

    Trump = 62,984,828
    Clinton = 65,853,514

    2020's "popular vote" numbers -

    Trump = 73,918,712
    Biden = 80,104,118


    I fully believe Trump organically increased his numbers by this much. That was the silent majority pundits and others were talking about. An 11 million vote increase during a pandemic year and 4 years of Russia... Actually, pretty impressive. But enough of that, I don't want to sound like some Trump apologist.

    You're telling me Biden secured 15 million more votes than Clinton? I know Clinton wasn't liked outside of the Democratic party, but come on... That many Americans voted for a senile chickenhawk pervert?

    But yet it's the gulags and re-education camps for Trump voters: https://summit.news/2020/11/19/lefti...mp-supporters/
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  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Okie RP fan View Post

    But yet it's the gulags and re-education camps for Trump voters
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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Madison320 View Post
    Let the states handle it.
    And when corruption at the state level precludes "handling it"?
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  14. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    If 600,000 ballots can be processed in 90 minutes, why did it take so long to do the initial count or so long for recounts?
    Quote Originally Posted by dannno View Post
    I think they were loading votes from memory cards or something.
    That's 111 votes per second. How many machines did they claim were running these ballots at once?
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  15. #42
    Help me understand the issue - apparently they analyzed a "vote dump" in PA and the votes were 604,000 for Biden and 3200 for Trump? That seems really lopsided.
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  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by trey4sports View Post
    Help me understand the issue - apparently they analyzed a "vote dump" in PA and the votes were 604,000 for Biden and 3200 for Trump? That seems really lopsided.
    It reeks of desperation, and the need to exercise their nuclear option...blatant, obvious cheating.

    Posted 10-21-2020:

    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    ...
    Cheating takes some finesse. You don't need to cheat if you are winning. That’s the purpose of delayed ballots, whether it is ballot harvesting or mail-in ballots. You do as much cheating as you can without being obvious up till election day. If you are still losing at the end of election day, you probably have a good idea how much more cheating you will have to do in order to win. You just want to do enough to win.

    If you are behind by 100 votes, you can find 100 votes for your opponent, and 201 votes for you. Not too obvious.

    If you are behind by 10,000 votes, it gets more difficult. You might have to find 200 votes for the opposition, and 10,202 votes for you. The wider the margin on election day, the more obvious the cheating becomes in the following days.

    But they are without shame. If every single ballot they find after election day is for Biden, they will do it with a straight face, outrage at any questions, and an army of lawyers to back them up. Lie, cheat and steal. They even say it out loud sometimes.
    And I will have to add to that.

    Corrected: "If every single ballot they find after election day is for Biden, they will do it with a straight face, outrage at any questions, and an army of lawyers, social networking companies, and the media to back them up. Lie, cheat and steal. They even say it out loud sometimes."

    Now the more interesting part of this is the enforcement of laws and rules. The analogy here is that a person could drive 140 mph in 25 mph speed limit from point A to point B. The time to cover the distance confirms an average speed of 140 mph. But...at every point where you drive past a highway patrol car, they "verify" that you were going 25 mph. Thus you can not be "caught" or ticketed despite mathematical evidence of the crime.

    What is a complete joke is the process of election "certification", which apparently is as certified and verified as a signature on a FISA warrant.
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  17. #44
    DATA: Biden Needed 130% Of Vote To ‘Win’ Arizona, Trump Needed -30% To Lose



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  18. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post

    Yes, there were Republican and independent observers.
    How does one "observe" from 20 feet away?

    This is the exact same $#@! that happened in McMinn County in the 1940's. The Republican observers were forced to stand on the other side of the room from where the votes were being recorded. In the instances when an observer saw an actual ballot being counted it was called for a Democrat even though it was a Republican candidate.
    This is what led to the Battle of Athens, Tenn. The parallels of how the Democrat machine conducted vote fraud then and now are absolutely astounding.
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  19. #46
    I understand Republicans are rather stupid.
    But Democrats are just evil. It must be the marxism that's been in their kool-aid for decades, amirite?
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  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    And when corruption at the state level precludes "handling it"?
    Then you live with it. It's still way better than entrusting your liberties at the federal level.

    In fact I would not be surprised if Biden takes you up on your offer. The problem is that the "guidelines" that team Biden is going to enforce will be to ensure that democrats win every election. His "guidelines" will be things like making sure that there is no "disenfranchising". So any slip of paper will count as a vote.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The mail in votes are not a random sample of the state,
    If they are not random, onus rests with you to demonstrate it as fact and to fully describe not just why it is so, but why a non-random distribution would be valid.

    Otherwise, your unsupported assertion is just that... AND the moon's made of green cheese.

    They're self-selected Biden voters, because one party said to vote mail in and the other said not to.
    If that's your reasoning, it is my duty to point out just how inadequate this reasoning is, if by no other virtue than that regardless of what is "suggested" or even mandated, people tend to do as they please. Do get thee to thy local Walmart and buy a clue.

    For the comparison that you're making, you'd need the dem/gop split of mail in votes specifically rather than total votes. I haven't seen that number released anywhere.
    In smaller locales, maybe. On a statewide basis, no. The larger the population, the less necessary - all else equal. Even in a Democrat-dominated state, large excursions from the true demographic are unlikely in the extreme, save in small sub-samplings. Spikes numbering in the hundreds of thousands of votes will not happen, save by outside interference. You have a whole lot to learn about the statistical nature of the world.
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  23. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    If they are not random, onus rests with you to demonstrate it as fact and to fully describe not just why it is so, but why a non-random distribution would be valid.

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  24. #50
    If you're not going to be serious, then forget it. This doesn't even qualify as a bad joke.
    Through lives and lives shalt thou pay, O' king.

    Freedom will be stolen from you in a heartbeat if you do not behave as a wild and ravening beast pursuant to its protection.

    "Government" is naught but a mental construct, a script to which people meekly accept and play out their assigned roles by those with no authority to dictate such.

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  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by osan View Post
    If you're not going to be serious, then forget it. This doesn't even qualify as a bad joke.

    Enjoy your fantasy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  26. #52
    Okay so how do mail ins totaling 1,700,000 vs 640,000, a 3 to 1 ratio come out to a 600,000 to 3000 vote dump, a 200 to 1 ratio?

  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by tebowlives View Post
    Okay so how do mail ins totaling 1,700,000 vs 640,000, a 3 to 1 ratio come out to a 600,000 to 3000 vote dump, a 200 to 1 ratio?
    ...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    The mail in votes are not a random sample of the state, nor are they a random sample of even a single precinct. They're self-selected Biden voters, because one party said to vote mail in and the other said not to.

    For the comparison that you're making, you'd need the dem/gop split of mail in votes specifically rather than total votes. I haven't seen that number released anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  28. #54
    Originally Posted by TheCount - The mail in votes are not a random sample of the state, nor are they a random sample of even a single precinct. They're self-selected Biden voters, because one party said to vote mail in and the other said not to.


    For the comparison that you're making, you'd need the dem/gop split of mail in votes specifically rather than total votes. I haven't seen that number released anywhere....


    Originally Posted by
    tebowlives - Okay so how do mail ins totaling 1,700,000 vs 640,000, a 3 to 1 ratio come out to a 600,000 to 3000 vote dump, a 200 to 1 ratio?

    Bolded in hopes you'll get it.

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