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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Trump never attacked Iran or Syria .
    I don't know what to say here. Seriously. You're not correct. This should be obvious.



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  3. #32
    Your theory is incorrect. Iran isn't some third world country you can just bomb at will. They have air defenses and would shoot our B52s out of the sky. Any strike by B52s would need to follow first a missile strike on radar bases, then eliminating all their fighters either on the ground or more likely in the air.



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  5. #33
    Does two planes doing a round trip qualify as a “fleet”?
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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by 69360 View Post
    Your theory is incorrect. Iran isn't some third world country you can just bomb at will. They have air defenses and would shoot our B52s out of the sky. Any strike by B52s would need to follow first a missile strike on radar bases, then eliminating all their fighters either on the ground or more likely in the air.
    It would require an ICBM First strike,, on multiple targets..

    and the Straights are still Closed.

    And what justification would be used for the rest of the World?
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
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  7. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    Does two planes doing a round trip qualify as a “fleet”?
    In the articles it said unspecified number of bombers from Minot, CENTCOM did not divulge,
    later - I saw the twitter that two were picked up and posted about, but are there others?
    After I saw the tweet, I did want to change the title, however I don't see a way to do that.
    If you want to change the title, that's fine.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    I don't know what to say here. Seriously. You're not correct. This should be obvious.
    Provide Links to legitimate websites showing that Trump attacked Iran or Syria.

    While it is true On the morning of 7 April 2017,the United States launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea into Syria, aimed at Shayrat Airbase controlled by the Syrian government. The strike was surgical and only 9 casualties were reported. He never tried to remove Assad.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  9. #37
    No, Trump is not a plant of globalist neocons and won't start Iran war in final few days

    Quote Originally Posted by Pauls' Revere View Post
    Wouldn't surprise me if they went whole hog on Iran. Either Israel attacks or we do and Trump declares a global emergency. A bit extreme but heck anything is possible.
    Won't that make Trump look like a puppet of Deep Neocons?

    Anger and despair among MAGA supporters would sky rocket and no one associated with GOP-Adelson wing would ever again get elected even as a dog walker if Trump is seen as plant of globalist lobbies sent to fool the simple minded wing of base that has already been fooled 3-4 times by funded GOP leaders. Widespread stress from Cognitive Dissonance on top of that.



    Trump's top Donor Adelson in 2013: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran
    American-Jewish billionaire blasts Obama over negotiations with Tehran; says US should show Iran nuclear capabilities.
    JERUSALEM POST
    October 24, 2013

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Provide Links to legitimate websites showing that Trump attacked Iran or Syria.

    While it is true On the morning of 7 April 2017,the United States launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea into Syria, aimed at Shayrat Airbase controlled by the Syrian government. The strike was surgical and only 9 casualties were reported. He never tried to remove Assad.
    Sep 15, 2020
    President Trump claimed on Tuesday that he wanted to assassinate President Bashar al-Assad of Syria early in his presidency, at the height of that country's bloody civil war, but James N. Mattis ...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/u...r-denials.html

    The United States has reportedly established a new military base in Syria's oil-rich eastern province of Dayr al-Zawr
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...rt/ar-BB13PpUZ

    US troops will occupy a large, oil-rich area stretching 150km from Deir ez-Zor to al-Hasakah, the Trump administration announced on Tuesday.
    https://www.rt.com/news/472787-syria...ops-oil-trump/

    Little-known U.S. firm secures deal for Syrian oil
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ian-oil-391033

    US aircraft drops incendiary balloons, sets fire to wheat crops in NE Syria
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ia/ar-BB14deTj

    The Illegal Burning of Syrian Wheat Fields by US Forces
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/illega...lds-us/5713933

    Al-Tanf (U.S. military base) - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Tan...military_base)

    Military Situation In Syria On October 20, 2020 (Map Update)
    https://southfront.org/military-situ...20-map-update/

    Jan 2, 2020 In killing General Suleimani, Mr. Trump took an action that Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama had rejected, fearing it would lead to war between the United States and Iran.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/w...an-attack.html

    U.S. Sending More Troops to Syria to Counter the Russians
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/18/u...ia-russia.html

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Sep 15, 2020
    President Trump claimed on Tuesday that he wanted to assassinate President Bashar al-Assad of Syria early in his presidency, at the height of that country's bloody civil war, but James N. Mattis ...
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/u...r-denials.html

    The United States has reportedly established a new military base in Syria's oil-rich eastern province of Dayr al-Zawr
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...rt/ar-BB13PpUZ

    US troops will occupy a large, oil-rich area stretching 150km from Deir ez-Zor to al-Hasakah, the Trump administration announced on Tuesday.
    https://www.rt.com/news/472787-syria...ops-oil-trump/

    Little-known U.S. firm secures deal for Syrian oil
    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...ian-oil-391033

    US aircraft drops incendiary balloons, sets fire to wheat crops in NE Syria
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ia/ar-BB14deTj

    The Illegal Burning of Syrian Wheat Fields by US Forces
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/illega...lds-us/5713933

    Al-Tanf (U.S. military base) - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Tan...military_base)

    Military Situation In Syria On October 20, 2020 (Map Update)
    https://southfront.org/military-situ...20-map-update/

    Jan 2, 2020 In killing General Suleimani, Mr. Trump took an action that Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama had rejected, fearing it would lead to war between the United States and Iran.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/w...an-attack.html

    U.S. Sending More Troops to Syria to Counter the Russians
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/18/u...ia-russia.html
    There you go , you did not and could not provide a link to a video wherein Trump threatened to remove Assad.

    NOTHING the NY Times claims is relevant.

    The affair in Syria began in 2008 and the US Ambassador to Syria has admitted they lied to Trump about troop strengths .

    I have no idea who ordered the assassination of Gen Suleimani - the attack was perpetrated in Baghdad, Iraq.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    There you go , you did not and could not provide a link to a video wherein Trump threatened to remove Assad.

    NOTHING the NY Times claims is relevant.

    The affair in Syria began in 2008 and the US Ambassador to Syria has admitted they lied to Trump about troop strengths .

    I have no idea who ordered the assassination of Gen Suleimani - the attack was perpetrated in Baghdad, Iraq.
    Trump ordered the assassination of General Suleimani.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/nat...tions-n1113271

    And, his pulling out of the Iranian Deal & inflicting terrible sanctions on them was an act of war.
    There is no spoon.



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  14. #41
    LOL

    There will not be a war.

    Trump is simply covering his withdrawals.
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  15. #42
    Presidential candidate Trump pledged to stop military interventions in 2016.

    Mark Esper on the other hand was rabidly anti Iranian, a warmonger and Neocrazy.

    I submit that he took it upon himself to order the Suleimani hit.

    By then Deep State operatives understood that they could do whatever the f u c k they wanted to do with IMPUNITY.

    Sad.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by enhanced_deficit View Post
    No, Trump is not a plant of globalist neocons and won't start Iran war in final few days


    Won't that make Trump look like a puppet of Deep Neocons?

    Anger and despair among MAGA supporters would sky rocket and no one associated with GOP-Adelson wing would ever again get elected even as a dog walker if Trump is seen as plant of globalist lobbies sent to fool the simple minded wing of base that has already been fooled 3-4 times by funded GOP leaders. Widespread stress from Cognitive Dissonance on top of that.



    Trump's top Donor Adelson in 2013: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran
    American-Jewish billionaire blasts Obama over negotiations with Tehran; says US should show Iran nuclear capabilities.
    JERUSALEM POST
    October 24, 2013
    At this point would it matter?
    “Give a man a plane ticket, he flies for a short period of his life. Throw a man out of a plane, he flies for the rest of his life.”

  17. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Everyone knows the Might of our Military..

    Have you ever taken an Objective look at Iran's Known Military Capability,, A country that has attacked No One in well over 100 years, but been attacked often.

    It is Heavy on the Defensive side. And it is Multi-Layered,, Varying Tech from Old School to advanced hybrid systems.

    and they OWN the Straits of Hormuz..

    They literally have the capability of clearing both Air and Sea out to 100 miles,, in minutes.
    and then shutting down the World Economy.
    We might find out by Jan 20th.
    “Give a man a plane ticket, he flies for a short period of his life. Throw a man out of a plane, he flies for the rest of his life.”

  18. #45
    Fred Schneider (the guy in the B52s) is my second cousin.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCifelli1 View Post
    Fred Schneider (the guy in the B52s) is my second cousin.
    Tell him "Don't do anything stupid".
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  20. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnCifelli1 View Post
    Fred Schneider (the guy in the B52s) is my second cousin.
    Are you from Planet Claire also?

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Snowball View Post
    Trump just sent a fleet of nuclear-capable B-52 Bombers from North Dakota to the Middle East.
    He also sent previously a fleet of 6 to Diego Garcia, these are all to target Iran.


    Snap deployments of B-52H's to Diego Garcia are nothing new. Twice in 2018 they were deployed and did South China Sea freedom of navigation flights. Earlier this year they did one and everyone thought it was about Iran, but instead it was to bomb some mountainsides in Afghanistan.

    No one is opening a war with Iran with a flight of B-52s. But, believe want ya want man.

    XNN
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  23. #49
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=uxbndlbing

    US formally withdraws from Open Skies Treaty that bolstered European security
    By Ryan Browne, CNN 12 hrs ago

    US formally withdraws from Open Skies Treaty that bolstered European security

    The US on Sunday formally exited the decades-old Open Skies Treaty, some six months after President Donald Trump first announced the decision, according to the State Department.
    “Give a man a plane ticket, he flies for a short period of his life. Throw a man out of a plane, he flies for the rest of his life.”

  24. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    It would require an ICBM First strike,, on multiple targets..

    and the Straights are still Closed.

    And what justification would be used for the rest of the World?
    US formally withdraws from Open Skies Treaty that bolstered European security
    By Ryan Browne, CNN 12 hrs ago

    US formally withdraws from Open Skies Treaty that bolstered European security

    The US on Sunday formally exited the decades-old Open Skies Treaty, some six months after President Donald Trump first announced the decision, according to the State Department.
    Last edited by Pauls' Revere; 11-24-2020 at 12:13 AM.
    “Give a man a plane ticket, he flies for a short period of his life. Throw a man out of a plane, he flies for the rest of his life.”

  25. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post
    [IMG]

    No one is opening a war with Iran with a flight of B-52s. But, believe want ya want man.

    XNN
    It would be a very stupid thing to do.. was my first thought..

    aside from being a pointless waste of old Bombers.


    I grew up on the flightline of a SAC Base. My view was as very low level.

    ps
    I'l bet some of these kids have never heard sonic booms.. I remember when they changed the rules..
    Last edited by pcosmar; 11-22-2020 at 08:47 PM.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by XNavyNuke View Post


    Snap deployments of B-52H's to Diego Garcia are nothing new.

    XNN
    The article clearly distinguishes between the fresh "short-notice" orders sending 5th Bomb Wing B-52H's
    to an undisclosed location in the "Middle East" - and the separate half dozen based in Diego Garcia.

  27. #53
    https://apnews.com/article/israel-sa...bbe9177a90c291

    The Israeli news site Walla, followed quickly by other Hebrew-language media, cited an unnamed Israeli official as saying that Netanyahu and Yossi Cohen, head of Israel’s Mossad spy agency, flew Sunday night to the Saudi city of Neom, where they met with the crown prince. The prince was there for talks with visiting U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

    Israel and Saudi Arabia have a shared interest in countering archrival Iran, and they have welcomed the Trump administration’s pressure campaign on the Iranians, which included withdrawing from the international nuclear deal with Iran and imposing tough economic sanctions on the Tehran government.

    The reported meeting puts even more pressure on Iran ahead of an incoming Biden administration that has signaled a potential willingness to return to the 2015 nuclear deal.

    “I think there’s a message to Iran. Look, there’s a front against you. There’s two months to go to the new administration. Beware. We are on the same page,” said Yoel Guzansky, a senior fellow at the Institute for National Security Studies, a prestigious Israeli think tank.

    In an apparent message to President-elect Joe Biden, Netanyahu said in a speech Sunday evening, shortly before the reported trip to Saudi Arabia: “We must not return to the previous nuclear deal.”

    In the same speech, Netanyahu also praised “trailblazing Arab leaders who understand the benefits of peace” and predicted “we will see other states that widen the circle of peace.”

    In another possible reference to the Saudi meeting, a Netanyahu aide, Topaz Luk, accused Netanyahu’s rival and coalition partner, Defense Minister Benny Gantz, of “playing politics at the same time that the prime minister is making peace.” Gantz on Sunday launched an investigation into Israel’s purchase of German submarines — a scandal that has turned several close Netanyahu confidants into criminal suspects. Netanyahu himself is not a suspect.
    “Give a man a plane ticket, he flies for a short period of his life. Throw a man out of a plane, he flies for the rest of his life.”

  28. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    Everyone knows the Might of our Military..

    Have you ever taken an Objective look at Iran's Known Military Capability,, A country that has attacked No One in well over 100 years, but been attacked often.

    It is Heavy on the Defensive side. And it is Multi-Layered,, Varying Tech from Old School to advanced hybrid systems.

    and they OWN the Straits of Hormuz..

    They literally have the capability of clearing both Air and Sea out to 100 miles,, in minutes.
    and then shutting down the World Economy.
    This overall theme, re: shutting down the Strait and retaliation aimed at Saudi oil, would most certainly be the final dagger in the heart of the petrodollar standard and go a long way toward the Reset. I think we are seeing the pieces start to fall into place. Remember, all wars are banker wars and they always control all sides.
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    Israel, under control of the Crown and, ultimately, the Vatican, own the USA. If you don't know this by now....

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    But now you can't talk to people because of "social distancing"....brought to you by shills and politicians.

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