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    China Defies Elon Musk’s Warnings and Pushes Ahead With Hydrogen



    China Defies Elon Musk’s Warnings and Pushes Ahead With Hydrogen

    Bloomberg News | November 19, 2020

    Asia’s biggest economy wants to promote fuel cells for trucks

    Tesla Inc. Chief Executive Officer Elon Musk has spent years mocking the idea of using hydrogen fuel cells rather than electric batteries to power next-generation green vehicles. “Fuel cells = fool sells,” the boss of the world’s top electric-car maker tweeted in June.

    China, the world’s biggest market for electric vehicles, isn’t so quick to dismiss the alternative to batteries. Officials are promoting the development of hydrogen-powered cars, trucks and buses, with Beijing offering to reward cities that achieve adoption targets.

    In a 15-year plan for new-energy vehicles released on Nov. 2, China’s State Council said the country will focus on building the fuel-cell supply chain and developing hydrogen-powered trucks and buses. President Xi Jinping in September set a 2030 deadline for China to begin reducing carbon emissions.

    “Hydrogen is expected to play a much more important role to drastically decrease the country’s greenhouse gas emissions,” Kevin Jianjun Tu, a non-resident fellow at the French think tank Ifri, wrote in a report published in October.

    MORE: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-with-hydrogen



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    Budweiser China Deploys Hydrogen FCV Trucks

    October 28, the second “Budweiser China Green Logistics VA Day” was successfully held in Shanghai. Budweiser announced a series of new initiatives to advance its Green Logistics in China, including the roll-out of Hydrogen FCV trucks across its value chain.

    At the convention, Jan Clysner, VP Procurement & Sustainability, Bud APAC; Rodrigo Moraes Rodrigues, VP Logistics, Bud APAC; Song Su from World Resources Institute; Gu Chenxi, Deputy Secretary-General of Shanghai Logistics Association; Zhong Wu, Secretary of Cargo TST Department in Shanghai Road Transportation Development Center; Dr. Yu Huajun from Fudan University; and corporate partners from Bestpath, Cardinal, etc. jointly witnessed another key milestone on Budweiser China’s journey of green logistics.

    Jan Clysner, VP Procurement & Sustainability, Bud APAC, expressed his great confidence in the new initiatives: “At Budweiser, sustainability is not just part of our business; it is our business. Back in 2018, Budweiser announced its 2025 Sustainability Goals, which take climate action as a key pillar. We take enormous pride in taking the lead to deploy Hydrogen FCVs throughout our logistics network, which demonstrates Budweiser’s determination to achieve its climate commitments by reducing CO2 emissions.”...MORE: https://budweiserapac.com/en/new2020102801.html



    Soon, Americans will be asking themselves how China managed to dominate the Hydrogen Fuel Cell industry. They'll be accused of stealing the tech, no doubt. It will be fun to watch. The only "innovations" to come out of America in the last 20 years are improved methods of surveillance and drone-killing, because that's how Americans kill civilians now, from 20,000 feet.

    Meanwhile, Hyundai's Hydrogen Trucks are delivering goods in Switzerland - using a national H2 network - RIGHT NOW

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    The belongs here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmdrake View Post
    The belongs here.

    And a follow up. How to make the hydrogen storage material without a particle accelerator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    The road to hell is paved with good intentions. No need to make it a superhighway.
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    The only way I see Trump as likely to affect any real change would be through martial law, and that has zero chances of success without strong buy-in by the JCS at the very minimum.

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    I already got one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danke View Post
    I already got one.
    I bought mine from an injun. You better check your driveway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post
    I bought mine from an injun. You better check your driveway.
    oh frick. it is gone.
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    I'm sure Oyarde's tribal people are just "borrowing" it.
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    I like the idea of hydrogen but I think it should be produced on board using water I don't like the idea of having to go to a GAS STATION TO USE IT.



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