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Thread: Wayne County, Michigan Now UN-CERTIFIES Election, After Board Members Say Were THREATENED!

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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Pretty sure un-certification isn't a thing.
    Wrong again.

    ...have now rescinded their votes to certify.
    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Wrong again.



    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Wrong again.

    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.
    Is signing off on or certifying an election count considered a contract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Donna Brazile?

    The question is irrelevant . Any Left wing thug can accuse them of "systemic racism" in order to conceal ELECTORAL FRAUD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
    The question isn't irrelevant. I wasn't assigning it any relevancy to begin with. I was just wondering if you knew her name or not.

    A simple "no" would have sufficed.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    Is signing off on or certifying an election count considered a contract?
    IRRELEVANT


    Duress

    Unlawful pressure exerted upon a person to coerce that person to perform any act that he or she ordinarily would not perform.

    Duress also encompasses the same harm, threats, or restraint exercised upon the affected individual's spouse, child, or parent.
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Wrong again.



    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.
    It's not a contract. It's a government official performing the task for which they were appointed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
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    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
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    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's not a contract. It's a government official performing the task for which they were appointed.
    An action undertaken VOLUNTARILY, not coerced , not under duress or compulsion
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    We are fully aware that in LaLaLand coercion and duress are not crimes.


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    Crimes that nullify any "votes" they are used to procure.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    An action undertaken VOLUNTARILY, not coerced , not under duress or compulsion

    So... you're concerned about the public putting election officials under duress?
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    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.



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    Please let it be noted that the Count believes in using threats to procure official political outcomes.

    Also known as TERRORISM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankind…it’s people I can’t stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Please let it be noted that the Count believes in using threats to procure official political outcomes.

    Also known as TERRORISM.
    I thought that you didn't like liars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Please let it be noted that the Count believes in using threats to procure official political outcomes.

    Also known as TERRORISM.
    That's how the socialists roll.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    So... you're concerned about the public putting election officials under duress?
    The refused to certify the votes , they certified the votes but then they rescinded.

    Has a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR DECLARED THAT THEY WERE UNDER NO COMPULSION TO DO SO ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    ARE COERCION and DURESS recognized in Michigan?
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The refused to certify the votes , they certified the votes but then they rescinded.

    Has a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR DECLARED THAT THEY WERE UNDER NO COMPULSION TO DO SO ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    ARE COERCION and DURESS recognized in Michigan?
    Will you be posting your all-caps, exaggerated font size concern in threads advocating putting public pressure on election and other governmental officials?




    I mean, besides just this approving response:
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Will you be posting your all-caps, exaggerated font size concern in threads advocating putting public pressure on election and other governmental officials?




    I mean, besides just this approving response:
    Since it appears that you live in a foxhole, let me bring you up to date

    In February 2020 the Deep State , the Fake News Media (SEE BS network and the democrats decided that in order to create a socialist republic they needed to get Rid of Trump by any means necessary

    1- they tanked the economy - 30 MILLION Americans lost their jobs and numerous businesses have gone belly up

    2- then the mother f u c k e r s blamed Trump and repeated the bs numerous times during their broadcasts - they censor anyone who supports Trump

    3- Nevertheless , Trump won by a comfortable LANDSLIDE

    4- Trump's Legal Dream Team has revealed numerous cases of blatant election fraud which threatens to cause irreparable harm to our Constitutional Republic

    WHEREFORE I will engage in ANY lawful action that I deem necessary to fight our domestic enemies .
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    WHEREFORE I will engage in ANY lawful action that I deem necessary to fight our domestic enemies .
    Does that include COERCION and DURESS such that a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR MIGHT DECLARE TO BE COMPULSION?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Does that include COERCION and DURESS such that a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR MIGHT DECLARE TO BE COMPULSION?
    Here on Earth coercion and duress are not lawful actions.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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  23. #49
    Per registered decision, member has been banned for violating community standards as interpreted by TheTexan (respect his authoritah) as authorized by Brian4Liberty Ruling

    May God have mercy on his atheist, police-hating, non-voting, anarchist soul.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 12-07-2020 at 08:36 PM.
    You have the right to remain silent. Anything you post to the internet can and will be used to humiliate you.

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    Per registered decision, member has been banned for violating community standards as interpreted by TheTexan (respect his authoritah) as authorized by Brian4Liberty Ruling

    May God have mercy on his atheist, police-hating, non-voting, anarchist soul.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 12-07-2020 at 08:37 PM.
    You have the right to remain silent. Anything you post to the internet can and will be used to humiliate you.

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    What is the will of the majority of Michiganders as determined by VALID votes ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I don't support Biden


    Then who did you vote for?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




    Disrupt, Deny, Deflate. Read the RPF trolls' playbook here (post #3): http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthr...eptive-members

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    What is the will of the majority of Michiganders as determined by VALID votes ?
    Depends on your definition of VALID
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    One lawfully registered voter = one vote , as defined by the legislature

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    Per registered decision, member has been banned for violating community standards as interpreted by TheTexan (respect his authoritah) as authorized by Brian4Liberty Ruling

    May God have mercy on his atheist, police-hating, non-voting, anarchist soul.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 12-07-2020 at 08:40 PM.
    You have the right to remain silent. Anything you post to the internet can and will be used to humiliate you.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's not a contract. It's a government official performing the task for which they were appointed.
    Anything that requires a signature is a contract under the current Roman legal system in place. It is a pledge to or the performance of some action or duty, whether current or future. In this case, it's the execution of a duty as agreed by the holder of the position as part of the employment contract as a member of the Board. The only question is who is the other party to the contract (the "Public"? the "Board"?). If it is executed under duress, it can at least be argued that the execution of the contractual duty is invalid. Under the UCC, the rock solid way to ensure that the right to claim duress is to add "rights reserved", "without prejudice", "under duress", relevant state UCC code citation, or similar notation after the signature. I don't know if that step was taken by the members but I doubt it.
    Last edited by devil21; 11-21-2020 at 11:53 AM.
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    Per registered decision, member has been banned for violating community standards as interpreted by TheTexan (respect his authoritah) as authorized by Brian4Liberty Ruling

    May God have mercy on his atheist, police-hating, non-voting, anarchist soul.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 12-14-2020 at 06:33 PM.
    You have the right to remain silent. Anything you post to the internet can and will be used to humiliate you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Michigan's state board certifies Biden's win
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/decis...-updates-here/
    Board certifies results with 3 votes, 1 member abstaining

    Not sure that is legal..but I suppose the Supreme Court could decide.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/decis...-updates-here/
    Board certifies results with 3 votes, 1 member abstaining

    Not sure that is legal..but I suppose the Supreme Court could decide.
    Not sure what is legal?
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Pinochet is the model
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Liberty preserving authoritarianism.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Enforced internal open borders was one of the worst elements of the Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Not sure what is legal?
    The Certification..
    Was under the impression it must be Unanimous.

    3 votes is not enough.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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