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Thread: Wayne County, Michigan Now UN-CERTIFIES Election, After Board Members Say Were THREATENED!

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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Pretty sure un-certification isn't a thing.
    Wrong again.

    ...have now rescinded their votes to certify.
    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Wrong again.



    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Wrong again.

    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.
    Is signing off on or certifying an election count considered a contract?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Donna Brazile?

    The question is irrelevant . Any Left wing thug can accuse them of "systemic racism" in order to conceal ELECTORAL FRAUD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
    The question isn't irrelevant. I wasn't assigning it any relevancy to begin with. I was just wondering if you knew her name or not.

    A simple "no" would have sufficed.

  8. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    Is signing off on or certifying an election count considered a contract?
    IRRELEVANT


    Duress

    Unlawful pressure exerted upon a person to coerce that person to perform any act that he or she ordinarily would not perform.

    Duress also encompasses the same harm, threats, or restraint exercised upon the affected individual's spouse, child, or parent.
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  9. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by James_Madison_Lives View Post
    Wrong again.



    Law 101. Any contract signed under duress is invalid.
    It's not a contract. It's a government official performing the task for which they were appointed.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  10. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's not a contract. It's a government official performing the task for which they were appointed.
    An action undertaken VOLUNTARILY, not coerced , not under duress or compulsion
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

  11. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    We are fully aware that in LaLaLand coercion and duress are not crimes.


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    Crimes that nullify any "votes" they are used to procure.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

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  12. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    An action undertaken VOLUNTARILY, not coerced , not under duress or compulsion

    So... you're concerned about the public putting election officials under duress?
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.



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  14. #41
    Please let it be noted that the Count believes in using threats to procure official political outcomes.

    Also known as TERRORISM.
    Never attempt to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    Robert Heinlein

    Give a man an inch and right away he thinks he's a ruler

    Groucho Marx

    I love mankindÖitís people I canít stand.

    Linus, from the Peanuts comic

    You cannot have liberty without morality and morality without faith

    Alexis de Torqueville

    Those who fail to learn from the past are condemned to repeat it.
    Those who learn from the past are condemned to watch everybody else repeat it

    A Zero Hedge comment

  15. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Please let it be noted that the Count believes in using threats to procure official political outcomes.

    Also known as TERRORISM.
    I thought that you didn't like liars.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  16. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Swordsmyth View Post
    Please let it be noted that the Count believes in using threats to procure official political outcomes.

    Also known as TERRORISM.
    That's how the socialists roll.
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    So... you're concerned about the public putting election officials under duress?
    The refused to certify the votes , they certified the votes but then they rescinded.

    Has a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR DECLARED THAT THEY WERE UNDER NO COMPULSION TO DO SO ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    ARE COERCION and DURESS recognized in Michigan?
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The refused to certify the votes , they certified the votes but then they rescinded.

    Has a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR DECLARED THAT THEY WERE UNDER NO COMPULSION TO DO SO ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    ARE COERCION and DURESS recognized in Michigan?
    Will you be posting your all-caps, exaggerated font size concern in threads advocating putting public pressure on election and other governmental officials?




    I mean, besides just this approving response:
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  19. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Will you be posting your all-caps, exaggerated font size concern in threads advocating putting public pressure on election and other governmental officials?




    I mean, besides just this approving response:
    Since it appears that you live in a foxhole, let me bring you up to date

    In February 2020 the Deep State , the Fake News Media (SEE BS network and the democrats decided that in order to create a socialist republic they needed to get Rid of Trump by any means necessary

    1- they tanked the economy - 30 MILLION Americans lost their jobs and numerous businesses have gone belly up

    2- then the mother f u c k e r s blamed Trump and repeated the bs numerous times during their broadcasts - they censor anyone who supports Trump

    3- Nevertheless , Trump won by a comfortable LANDSLIDE

    4- Trump's Legal Dream Team has revealed numerous cases of blatant election fraud which threatens to cause irreparable harm to our Constitutional Republic

    WHEREFORE I will engage in ANY lawful action that I deem necessary to fight our domestic enemies .
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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    WHEREFORE I will engage in ANY lawful action that I deem necessary to fight our domestic enemies .
    Does that include COERCION and DURESS such that a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR MIGHT DECLARE TO BE COMPULSION?
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  21. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Does that include COERCION and DURESS such that a NEUTRAL IMPARTIAL ADJUDICATOR MIGHT DECLARE TO BE COMPULSION?
    Here on Earth coercion and duress are not lawful actions.
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    .DON'T TAX ME BRO!!!

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    "It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)



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  23. #49
    The second Wednesday in December can't get here soon enough for me.
    It happened sometime after they Made America Great Again. You see, I grew a bit weary from all the winning.

    Remember the number one rule of libertarianism: Bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces to make them happen.

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    Per Detroit Free Press (following Shirkey/Chatfield meeting with Trump)

    In a joint statement, Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey, R-Clarklake, and House Speaker Lee Chatfield, R-Levering, did not say whether the Michigan election results came up in their conversation with Trump on Friday evening at the White House.

    However, they did not indicate they would take action to intervene in any way that would change President-elect Joe Biden's win in the state.

    "We have not yet been made aware of any information that would change the outcome of the election in Michigan and as legislative leaders, we will follow the law and follow the normal process regarding Michiganís electors, just as we have said throughout this election," the leaders said in a press release.

    "Michiganís certification process should be a deliberate process free from threats and intimidation. Allegations of fraudulent behavior should be taken seriously, thoroughly investigated, and if proven, prosecuted to the full extent of the law. And the candidates who win the most votes win elections and Michigan's electoral votes. These are simple truths that should provide confidence in our elections.Ē

    Many feared Trump would try to encourage the Republican legislative leaders to usurp the will of the majority of voters in Michigan and in some way deliver the state's electoral votes to him.

    Any attempt would likely be in violation of Michigan or federal law, or would require a new state law. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, would almost assuredly not sign a bill that would allow the Legislature to assign electoral votes and failure to achieve the two-thirds majority in the statehouse needed to overturn Whitmer's veto is all but guaranteed. Both Chatfield and Shirkey had publicly stated they would not convince the Legislature to seat pro-Trump electors.
    It happened sometime after they Made America Great Again. You see, I grew a bit weary from all the winning.

    Remember the number one rule of libertarianism: Bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces to make them happen.

  25. #51
    What is the will of the majority of Michiganders as determined by VALID votes ?

  26. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    I don't support Biden


    Then who did you vote for?
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    ...I believe that when the government is capable of doing a thing, it will.
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    which one of yall fuckers wrote the "ron paul" racist news letters
    Quote Originally Posted by Dforkus View Post
    Zippy's posts are a great contribution.




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  27. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    What is the will of the majority of Michiganders as determined by VALID votes ?
    Depends on your definition of VALID
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

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    One lawfully registered voter = one vote , as defined by the legislature

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    What is the will of the majority of Michiganders as determined by VALID votes ?
    No, What is on Second.

    Is there anyone else here that feels like we're watching a Abbott and Costello routine?
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 11-20-2020 at 06:58 PM.
    It happened sometime after they Made America Great Again. You see, I grew a bit weary from all the winning.

    Remember the number one rule of libertarianism: Bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces to make them happen.

  30. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    It's not a contract. It's a government official performing the task for which they were appointed.
    Anything that requires a signature is a contract under the current Roman legal system in place. It is a pledge to or the performance of some action or duty, whether current or future. In this case, it's the execution of a duty as agreed by the holder of the position as part of the employment contract as a member of the Board. The only question is who is the other party to the contract (the "Public"? the "Board"?). If it is executed under duress, it can at least be argued that the execution of the contractual duty is invalid. Under the UCC, the rock solid way to ensure that the right to claim duress is to add "rights reserved", "without prejudice", "under duress", relevant state UCC code citation, or similar notation after the signature. I don't know if that step was taken by the members but I doubt it.
    Last edited by devil21; 11-21-2020 at 11:53 AM.
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    Talk to people about liberty. You won't find it on websites, you won't find it in politicians.

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  32. #57
    Michigan's state board certifies Biden's win

    ... or, as Contumacious would write:
    Michigan's state board certifies Biden's win

    The Michigan State Board of Canvassers voted Monday to certify the state's election results, formally granting President-elect Joe Biden the state's 16 electoral votes.

    The certification all but erases President Donald Trump's pathway to try to overturn the election results through legal challenges that have been dismissed in key states.

    One of the two Republican members of the Michigan state canvassing board, Aaron Van Langevelde, joined the two Democrats to vote to certify the election results, after it was unclear how he would vote prior to the meeting.
    Last edited by Voluntarist; 11-23-2020 at 04:17 PM.
    It happened sometime after they Made America Great Again. You see, I grew a bit weary from all the winning.

    Remember the number one rule of libertarianism: Bad things don't just happen; bad things require dark and insidious forces to make them happen.

  33. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Voluntarist View Post
    Michigan's state board certifies Biden's win
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/decis...-updates-here/
    Board certifies results with 3 votes, 1 member abstaining

    Not sure that is legal..but I suppose the Supreme Court could decide.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

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    It's all about Freedom

  34. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    https://www.clickondetroit.com/decis...-updates-here/
    Board certifies results with 3 votes, 1 member abstaining

    Not sure that is legal..but I suppose the Supreme Court could decide.
    Not sure what is legal?
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
    H. L. Mencken

    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

  35. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Not sure what is legal?
    The Certification..
    Was under the impression it must be Unanimous.

    3 votes is not enough.
    Liberty is lost through complacency and a subservient mindset. When we accept or even welcome automobile checkpoints, random searches, mandatory identification cards, and paramilitary police in our streets, we have lost a vital part of our American heritage. America was born of protest, revolution, and mistrust of government. Subservient societies neither maintain nor deserve freedom for long.
    Ron Paul 2004

    Registered Ron Paul supporter # 2202
    It's all about Freedom

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