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    Wayne County , MI REFUSED to certify elections

    Officials in Wayne County, Michigan, which contains the city of Detroit, refused to certify the results of the Nov. 3 election after local representatives on the Board of Canvassers deadlocked in a 2-2 vote, sending the votes to state authorities for canvassing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Officials in Wayne County, Michigan, which contains the city of Detroit, refused to certify the results of the Nov. 3 election after local representatives on the Board of Canvassers deadlocked in a 2-2 vote, sending the votes to state authorities for canvassing.
    HUGE! Elections Security Expert Finds Michigan Results a COMPLETE FRAUD — Current Machines Do Not Have Capability to Count the Mass Dumps for Biden in Reported Time Period (VIDEO)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    HUGE! Elections Security Expert Finds Michigan Results a COMPLETE FRAUD — Current Machines Do Not Have Capability to Count the Mass Dumps for Biden in Reported Time Period (VIDEO)


    Russ Ramsland:


    We have been out looking mostly at Michigan. We are beginning on turning our sights on Pennsylvania and Georgia. The things you find in Michigan are amazing. There are over 3,000 precincts where the presidential votes cast compared to the estimated voters from the SOS (Secretary of State) is 99% all the way up to 350%. Those kind of numbers don’t exist in the real world. So where did all those votes come from? And looking at that, we’ve gone back and looked at some of these huge vote dumps that were mostly Biden’s. We call them spikes. We’ve gone back and traced the spikes. We’ve seen where they were cast, primarily in four counties. We looked at how long it took to cast those votes. And we looked at the equipment that exists at all of those locations by serial number. And the fact of the matter is we can’t see any physical way possible for some of those votes to have been in those kind of numbers because they just don’t have the equipment that can produce it in that timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Officials in Wayne County, Michigan, which contains the city of Detroit, refused to certify the results of the Nov. 3 election after local representatives on the Board of Canvassers deadlocked in a 2-2 vote, sending the votes to state authorities for canvassing.
    Your Facebook forward is about six hours behind:


    The Wayne County Board of Canvassers abruptly changed course Tuesday night and certified the results of the Nov. 3 election after initially deadlocking 2-2 along party lines, which could have delayed the state process for validating pivotal votes.

    The deadlock decision had been lauded by Republicans but decried by Democrats. During a lengthy public comment session, the vote was described as a targeted attack on majority-Black Detroit,the largest city in the county and state.

    After hours of angry responses from Wayne County residents,the change in course wasapproved by the two Republican and two Democratic canvassers with the demand that the Secretary of State's office conduct a "comprehensive audit" of precincts with unexplained out-of-balance tallies.

    The high-stakes vote, with the eyes of the nation on Michigan's largest county, apparently took place while the video stream for the virtual meeting wasn't working.

    "That passed unanimously," Republican member William Hartmann said when the video began functioning again. "We just voted on that."
    Moments later, he said, "We're going to adjourn," and the board ended its meeting at 9:08 p.m.

    Minutes after that, President Donald Trump tweeted, based on the past deadlocked vote, "Wow! Michigan just refused to certify the election results! Having courage is a beautiful thing. The USA stands proud!"

    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ts/6324274002/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    [B] because they just don’t have the equipment that can produce it in that timing.
    I'll bet the Servers in Germany did..
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Your Facebook forward is about six hours behind:

    After hours of angry responses from Wayne County residents,the change in course wasapproved by the two Republican and two Democratic canvassers with the demand that the Secretary of State's office conduct a "comprehensive audit" of precincts with unexplained out-of-balance tallies.
    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ts/6324274002/

    Lol. Textbook Pelosi logic. “You can audit the results after you certify them.” What a joke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    After hours of angry responses from Wayne County residents, the change in course was approved by the two Republican and two Democratic canvassers with the demand that the Secretary of State's office conduct a "comprehensive audit" of precincts with unexplained out-of-balance tallies.
    As if THAT (a "comprehensive audit") will ever happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    As if THAT (a "comprehensive audit") will ever happen.
    Probably won't.


    For some reason, the Trump campaign doesn't seem to be willing to pay the money for a recount.
    "The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    Yes, indeed , we will never be able to prove fraud.



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    Quote Originally Posted by article
    The deadlock decision had been lauded by Republicans but decried by Democrats. During a lengthy public comment session, the vote was described as a targeted attack on majority-Black Detroit,the largest city in the county and state.

    After hours of angry responses from Wayne County residents,the change in course wasapproved by the two Republican and two Democratic canvassers with the demand that the Secretary of State's office conduct a "comprehensive audit" of precincts with unexplained out-of-balance tallies.

    The high-stakes vote, with the eyes of the nation on Michigan's largest county, apparently took place while the video stream for the virtual meeting wasn't working.

    "That passed unanimously," Republican member William Hartmann said when the video began functioning again. "We just voted on that."

    Moments later, he said, "We're going to adjourn," and the board ended its meeting at 9:08 p.m.
    That's when you know that a country is truly good and f*ed. The Board sees problems with the election and decides to not certify the election, then pressure from random people (probably some death threats included) forces them to certify it any way, in darkness, and quickly run from the building. Banana republic stuff.
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    The left will do anything for power. They will threaten your children and ruin your capacity to feed your family. They will lie, cheat, steal, beg, borrow and engage in the most savage behavior known to man. They will stop at nothing until their thirst for power is satiated.

    And that is why they continue to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCount View Post
    Your Facebook forward is about six hours behind:





    https://www.detroitnews.com/story/ne...ts/6324274002/
    Typical socialist sycophant - omitting facts




    After hours of angry responses from Wayne County residents,the change in course was approved by the two Republican and two Democratic canvassers with the demand that the Secretary of State's office conduct a "comprehensive audit" of precincts with unexplained out-of-balance tallies.

    The high-stakes vote, with the eyes of the nation on Michigan's largest county, apparently took place while the video stream for the virtual meeting wasn't working.

    The Detroit News
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    ...with the demand that the Secretary of State's office conduct a "comprehensive audit" of precincts with unexplained out-of-balance tallies.
    What is a demand? Is it legally binding? I'm guessing... not. So I'm not holding my breath for it to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dary View Post
    What is a demand? Is it legally binding? I'm guessing... not. So I'm not holding my breath for it to happen.
    What is fraudulent inducement?

    Fraudulent inducement is a type of legal claim often raised when a person has been tricked or defrauded into entering into a contract or transaction.


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    The victim must prove that...

    ... the fraudster knew that the misrepresentation was false.
    And there is the out.

    As an example of fraudulent inducement, imagine that a customer walks on to a used car lot to purchase a car. The salesman shows the customer a used vehicle and tells the customer that the vehicle has only 50,000 miles on the odometer. The customer buys the car. Later, the customer discovers that the vehicle actually had 100,000 miles, and the odometer has been altered. In such a case, the customer was fraudulently induced to enter into a contract to buy the car.
    All the salesman has to do it say..."I didn't know that the vehicle actually had 100,000 miles on it."

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    How do you browbeat people into submission? Call them racist and threaten them by saying millions know their names....


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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    How do you browbeat people into submission? Call them racist and threaten them by saying millions know their names....

    Democrat Abraham Aiyash from Wayne County just threatened and doxxed his fellow board member Monica Palmer's children, announcing names of their schools after calling their mother racist.She changed her decision shortly thereafter. ........"And I want you to think about what that means to your kids–who probably go to Grosse Pointe North–and when they see all their Black classmates....."



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    If Alexis de Tocqueville were alive today, he could replace the entire content of his voluminous tome Democracy in America with two simple words: "complete fiasco." (And then his editor could further reduce this to simply "fiasco," as the word itself implies completeness.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Democrat Abraham Aiyash from Wayne County just threatened and doxxed his fellow board member Monica Palmer's children, announcing names of their schools after calling their mother racist.She changed her decision shortly thereafter. ........"And I want you to think about what that means to your kids–who probably go to Grosse Pointe North–and when they see all their Black classmates....."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian4Liberty View Post

    https://twitter.com/correctthemedia/...69920357535744
    How is this Guy not being Perp Walked.??
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcosmar View Post
    How is this Guy not being Perp Walked.??

    If these had been my kids he was intimidating I'd have already been on his doorstep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phill4paul View Post
    If these had been my kids he was intimidating I'd have already been on his doorstep.
    Coercing the dissenting canvassers using duress causes the certification to be invalid.

    DURESS.

    [30] Duress is compulsion or constraint by which a person is illegally forced to do or forbear some act by violence threatened which is such as to inspire a person of ordinary firmness with fear of serious injury to the person, reputation or fortune.

    LAFAYETTE DRAMATIC PRODUCTIONS v. FERENTZ, SUPREME COURT OF MICHIGAN, 9 N.W.2d 57, 305 Mich. 193 , April 8, 1943
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    I read the MI DA threatened the Republican Canvassers of Wayne County with Prison time and fines if they did not certify the county election. Gestapo tactics in USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seapilot View Post
    I read the MI DA threatened the Republican Canvassers of Wayne County with Prison time and fines if they did not certify the county election. Gestapo tactics in USA.


    The Board of Canvassers refused to certify the Wayne County election results.


    The two fellow canvassers who dissented , two thugs named Ned Staebler and Abraham Aiyash coerced and applied duress by claiming that the canvassers who refused to certify the elections , were racists and threatened their school children.

    I haven't heard about the MI DA, so I would greatly appreciate a LINK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The Board of Canvassers refused to certify the Wayne County election results.


    The two fellow canvassers who dissented , two thugs named Ned Staebler and Abraham Aiyash coerced and applied duress by claiming that the canvassers who refused to certify the elections , were racists and threatened their school children.

    I haven't heard about the MI DA, so I would greatly appreciate a LINK.
    Now I am confused, not very hard for me. Has Wayne County been certified or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Now I am confused, not very hard for me. Has Wayne County been certified or not?
    FROM MY LEGAL STANDPOINT , SINCE THE REPUBLICAN CANVASSERS WERE SUBJECTED TO COERCION AND DURESS , NO.

    But the FAKE NEWS MEDIA aka THE SEE BS NETWORK , claims that Wayne County Michigan has been certified.

    So you do the math
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    FROM MY LEGAL STANDPOINT , SINCE THE REPUBLICAN CANVASSERS WERE SUBJECTED TO COERCION AND DURESS , NO.

    But the FAKE NEWS MEDIA aka THE SEE BS NETWORK , claims that Wayne County Michigan has been certified.

    So you do the math
    I would think for the votes to not be certified the people that certified would need to make a complaint and recant their certification. But, I know nothing about how this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contumacious View Post
    The Board of Canvassers refused to certify the Wayne County election results.


    The two fellow canvassers who dissented , two thugs named Ned Staebler and Abraham Aiyash coerced and applied duress by claiming that the canvassers who refused to certify the elections , were racists and threatened their school children.

    I haven't heard about the MI DA, so I would greatly appreciate a LINK.
    I will look for it. Here is a link to the company that Ned Staebler works for. Follow the money. https://archive.is/C8tpT
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    Now I am confused, not very hard for me. Has Wayne County been certified or not?
    Here is a message from Trump that the documents were not signed. If that turns out to be true then it is not officially certified.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...60562442067969
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged View Post
    I would think for the votes to not be certified the people that certified would need to make a complaint and recant their certification. But, I know nothing about how this.
    Yup concur
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