Trump Not First President Undermined by the Deep State, Nor the Last

[Michael Landon]

Trump Not First President Undermined by the Deep State, Nor the Last

By Ron Paul Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:31 PM


The mainstream media has declared former Vice President Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential election. However, this does not mean the 2020 presidential campaign has come to an end.

President Trump is continuing his legal challenges to vote counts in some key states.

The emotional investment of many Americans into the race between Trump and Biden would have shocked the drafters of the Constitution. The Constitution’s authors intended the presidency to be an office of strictly limited powers that would not impact most Americans.

The Constitution authorizes the president to administer laws passed by Congress, not create laws via executive orders. The president serves as commander in chief of the military following a congressional declaration of war, with no authority to unilaterally send troops into foreign conflict.

The Founders did not intend for the president to set the "national agenda," they would be horrified to see modern presidents assume the authority to order American citizens indefinitely detained and even killed without due process.

The idea that the president should exercise almost unlimited powers is a legacy of the progressive movement.

Progressives, who are responsible for the rise of the American welfare-warfare state, have an affinity for a strong presidency that is not surprising.

A government that aspires to run our lives, run the economy, and run the world requires a strong executive branch unfettered by the Constitution’s chains.

The Cold War also provided a boost to presidential power, as it justified presidents assuming more unchecked authority in the name of "national security."

The concentration of power in the executive branch does not mean presidents are all-powerful. For example, even though presidents are judged by the state of the economy, the unelected, unaccountable Federal Reserve Board typically has greater influence over the economy then the president. Presidents often must tailor their economic policies to deal with the consequences of the Fed’s actions.

This is why presidents spend so much time and energy trying to influence the "non-political" Fed.

Fed Chairs usually, but not always, reciprocate by attempting to tailor polices to be "useful" to the incumbent president.

It has become cliché to say that "politics stops at the water’s edge."

This means no one — not even members of Congress, should ever oppose or second-guess a president’s foreign policy decisions.

However, this rule does not apply to those comprising what has become popularly known as the "deep state": the military-industrial complex, the national security bureaucracy —including the CIA — congressional staffers, and members of the media.

This deep state serves a permanent government and has an agenda it pursues regardless of the wishes of the president or the American people.

The deep state has derailed President Trump’s (modest) efforts to fulfill his campaign promise to pursue a less interventionist foreign policy and end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Members of the deep state were instrumental in the Russiagate hoax and the impeachment of President Trump. Many supported impeachment because President Trump’s actions contradicted the D.C. "consensus" on US -Ukraine relations and the need for a new Cold War with Russia.

President Trump is not the first president to be undermined by the deep state and he will certainly not be the last.

The 2020 election has awoken many Americans to the corruption of the modern welfare-warfare state. These Americans are ripe for the message of liberty. They can help with the vital task of demystifying the U.S. presidency, destroying the deep state, restoring our constitutional republic, and regaining our lost liberties.

This article originally appeared on the Ron Paul Institute Website, and is used with permission.

Ron Paul is a physician, author and former Republican congressman. Paul also is a two-time Republican presidential candidate and the presidential nominee of the Libertarian Party in the 1988 U.S. presidential election. His latest book is "Swords into Plowshares." Read Ron Paul's Reports — More Here.

Copyright © 2020 by Ron Paul Institute​


Source:

https://www.newsmax.com/ronpaul/cia-.../11/id/996574/

- ML

[Badnon Wissenshaftler]

Wait, didn't your Chinese friend tell you that Trump would win with ~290 electoral votes?

Maybe when they're done counting Beijing?

All fun aside, what the Doc said here is what I've been telling people in so many words:

"The emotional investment of many Americans into the race between Trump and Biden would have shocked the drafters of the Constitution. The Constitution’s authors intended the presidency to be an office of strictly limited powers that would not impact most Americans."

The federal government, altogether, wasn't meant to be so powerful as to so profoundly influence the lives of individuals in the way it now does. The government of now is completely off the Founder's map.

[r3volution 3.0]

It's most depressing to see the Ron Paul Institute being used to promote Trumpism with this propaganda piece.

Let's break down the dishonesty:

The mainstream media has declared former Vice President Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential election. However, this does not mean the 2020 presidential campaign has come to an end.

President Trump is continuing his legal challenges to vote counts in some key states.

So here's a statement supporting Trump...

The emotional investment of many Americans into the race between Trump and Biden would have shocked the drafters of the Constitution. The Constitution’s authors intended the presidency to be an office of strictly limited powers that would not impact most Americans.

The Constitution authorizes the president to administer laws passed by Congress, not create laws via executive orders. The president serves as commander in chief of the military following a congressional declaration of war, with no authority to unilaterally send troops into foreign conflict.

The Founders did not intend for the president to set the "national agenda," they would be horrified to see modern presidents assume the authority to order American citizens indefinitely detained and even killed without due process.

Progressives, who are responsible for the rise of the American welfare-warfare state, have an affinity for a strong presidency that is not surprising.

A government that aspires to run our lives, run the economy, and run the world requires a strong executive branch unfettered by the Constitution’s chains.

The Cold War also provided a boost to presidential power, as it justified presidents assuming more unchecked authority in the name of "national security."

The concentration of power in the executive branch does not mean presidents are all-powerful. For example, even though presidents are judged by the state of the economy, the unelected, unaccountable Federal Reserve Board typically has greater influence over the economy then the president. Presidents often must tailor their economic policies to deal with the consequences of the Fed’s actions.

This is why presidents spend so much time and energy trying to influence the "non-political" Fed.

Fed Chairs usually, but not always, reciprocate by attempting to tailor polices to be "useful" to the incumbent president.

It has become cliché to say that "politics stops at the water’s edge."

This means no one — not even members of Congress, should ever oppose or second-guess a president’s foreign policy decisions.

...and here's a list of descriptors of the kind of government that libertarians oppose

...with no recognition of the fact they all apply to the Trump administration.

However, this rule does not apply to those comprising what has become popularly known as the "deep state": the military-industrial complex, the national security bureaucracy —including the CIA — congressional staffers, and members of the media.

This deep state serves a permanent government and has an agenda it pursues regardless of the wishes of the president or the American people.

The deep state has derailed President Trump’s (modest) efforts to fulfill his campaign promise to pursue a less interventionist foreign policy and end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Members of the deep state were instrumental in the Russiagate hoax and the impeachment of President Trump. Many supported impeachment because President Trump’s actions contradicted the D.C. "consensus" on US -Ukraine relations and the need for a new Cold War with Russia.

President Trump is not the first president to be undermined by the deep state and he will certainly not be the last.

The 2020 election has awoken many Americans to the corruption of the modern welfare-warfare state. These Americans are ripe for the message of liberty. They can help with the vital task of demystifying the U.S. presidency, destroying the deep state, restoring our constitutional republic, and regaining our lost liberties.

...and the nonsensical conclusion: namely, that Trump, who represents everything just criticized, is somehow fighting against that same system.

Ron needs to keep whoever's actually running the RPI day to day on a tighter leash.

[Contumacious]

Trump Not First President Undermined by the Deep State, Nor the Last

By Ron Paul Wednesday, 11 November 2020 01:31 PM


The mainstream media has declared former Vice President Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 presidential election. However, this does not mean the 2020 presidential campaign has come to an end.

President Trump is continuing his legal challenges to vote counts in some key states.

The emotional investment of many Americans into the race between Trump and Biden would have shocked the drafters of the Constitution. The Constitution’s authors intended the presidency to be an office of strictly limited powers that would not impact most Americans.

The Constitution authorizes the president to administer laws passed by Congress, not create laws via executive orders. The president serves as commander in chief of the military following a congressional declaration of war, with no authority to unilaterally send troops into foreign conflict.

The Founders did not intend for the president to set the "national agenda," they would be horrified to see modern presidents assume the authority to order American citizens indefinitely detained and even killed without due process.

The idea that the president should exercise almost unlimited powers is a legacy of the progressive movement.

Progressives, who are responsible for the rise of the American welfare-warfare state, have an affinity for a strong presidency that is not surprising.

A government that aspires to run our lives, run the economy, and run the world requires a strong executive branch unfettered by the Constitution’s chains.

The Cold War also provided a boost to presidential power, as it justified presidents assuming more unchecked authority in the name of "national security."

The concentration of power in the executive branch does not mean presidents are all-powerful. For example, even though presidents are judged by the state of the economy, the unelected, unaccountable Federal Reserve Board typically has greater influence over the economy then the president. Presidents often must tailor their economic policies to deal with the consequences of the Fed’s actions.

This is why presidents spend so much time and energy trying to influence the "non-political" Fed.

Fed Chairs usually, but not always, reciprocate by attempting to tailor polices to be "useful" to the incumbent president.

It has become cliché to say that "politics stops at the water’s edge."

This means no one — not even members of Congress, should ever oppose or second-guess a president’s foreign policy decisions.

However, this rule does not apply to those comprising what has become popularly known as the "deep state": the military-industrial complex, the national security bureaucracy —including the CIA — congressional staffers, and members of the media.

This deep state serves a permanent government and has an agenda it pursues regardless of the wishes of the president or the American people.

The deep state has derailed President Trump’s (modest) efforts to fulfill his campaign promise to pursue a less interventionist foreign policy and end the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Members of the deep state were instrumental in the Russiagate hoax and the impeachment of President Trump. Many supported impeachment because President Trump’s actions contradicted the D.C. "consensus" on US -Ukraine relations and the need for a new Cold War with Russia.

President Trump is not the first president to be undermined by the deep state and he will certainly not be the last.

The 2020 election has awoken many Americans to the corruption of the modern welfare-warfare state. These Americans are ripe for the message of liberty. They can help with the vital task of demystifying the U.S. presidency, destroying the deep state, restoring our constitutional republic, and regaining our lost liberties.

This article originally appeared on the Ron Paul Institute Website, and is used with permission.

Ron Paul is a physician, author and former Republican congressman. Paul also is a two-time Republican presidential candidate and the presidential nominee of the Libertarian Party in the 1988 U.S. presidential election. His latest book is "Swords into Plowshares." Read Ron Paul's Reports — More Here.

Copyright © 2020 by Ron Paul Institute​


Source:

https://www.newsmax.com/ronpaul/cia-.../11/id/996574/

- ML

The 2020 election has awoken many Americans to the corruption of the modern welfare-warfare state. These Americans are ripe for the message of liberty. They can help with the vital task of demystifying the U.S. presidency, destroying the deep state, restoring our constitutional republic, and regaining our lost liberties

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[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

The 2020 election has awoken many Americans to the corruption of the modern welfare-warfare state. These Americans are ripe for the message of liberty. They can help with the vital task of demystifying the U.S. presidency, destroying the deep state, restoring our constitutional republic, and regaining our lost liberties

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I don't know. I don't think the masses are capable of individual rational thought. Today everything is tribal.

[r3volution 3.0]

The 2020 election has awoken many Americans to the corruption of the modern welfare-warfare state. These Americans are ripe for the message of liberty. They can help with the vital task of demystifying the U.S. presidency, destroying the deep state, restoring our constitutional republic, and regaining our lost liberties.

Would you explain to me why on Earth you would think that Trump is fighting for liberty?

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

It's most depressing to see the Ron Paul Institute being used to promote Trumpism with this propaganda piece.

Let's break down the dishonesty:



So here's a statement supporting Trump...



...and here's a list of descriptors of the kind of government that libertarians oppose

...with no recognition of the fact they all apply to the Trump administration.



...and the nonsensical conclusion: namely, that Trump, who represents everything just criticized, is somehow fighting against that same system.

Ron needs to keep whoever's actually running the RPI day to day on a tighter leash.

I would bet that Ron has more in common with Trump and his supporters than he does with Biden and his supporters.

[r3volution 3.0]

I would bet that Ron has more in common with Trump and his supporters than he does with Biden and his supporters.

The difference between the two is trivial, as trivial as the difference between any of the other GOP/Dem pairs from years past. The overlap between the Ron Paul base and the Trump base is that many of the former were just contrarians looking for an outsider, and Trump plays a good outsider on TV. Any genuine libertarian who supports Trump is delusional.

[Contumacious]

It's most depressing to see the Ron Paul Institute being used to promote Trumpism with this propaganda piece.

Let's break down the dishonesty:



So here's a statement supporting Trump...



...and here's a list of descriptors of the kind of government that libertarians oppose

...with no recognition of the fact they all apply to the Trump administration.



...and the nonsensical conclusion: namely, that Trump, who represents everything just criticized, is somehow fighting against that same system.

Ron needs to keep whoever's actually running the RPI day to day on a tighter leash.

Wrong again.

While it is true that Mr Trump would benefit because he is the current president we have a duty a responsibility to protect the office of the president against ALL ENEMIES , foreign and domestic.

Here we have the Deep State : Brennan, Clapper, Fauci, et al, joining forces with the Anti Trumpers in the MSM (SEE BS) and the Demo Rats in an alliance to effectuate a coup and disenfranchise American voters.

Totally unacceptable.

We shall expose the bastards and make sure it doesn't happen again.

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

The difference between the two is trivial, as trivial as the difference between any of the other GOP/Dem pairs from years past. The overlap between the Ron Paul base and the Trump base is that many of the former were just contrarians looking for an outsider, and Trump plays a good outsider on TV. Any genuine libertarian who supports Trump is delusional.

If Ron were 65 years old today and building a base, his support would come more from rational critical thinking conservatives than socialist liberals.

[r3volution 3.0]

Wrong again.

While it is true that Mr Trump would benefit because he is the current president we have a duty a responsibility to protect the office of the president against ALL ENEMIES , foreign and domestic.

Here we have the Deep State : Brennan, Clapper, Fauci, et al, joining forces with the Anti Trumpers in the MSM (SEE BS) and the Demo Rats in an alliance to effectuate a coup and disenfranchise American voters.

Totally unacceptable.

We shall expose the bastards and make sure it doesn't happen again.

So, to be clear, you recognize that Trump is an enemy of liberty, you just think that fair elections are important?

If Ron were 65 years old today and building a base, his support would come more from rational critical thinking conservatives than socialist liberals.

Where are those?

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

So, to be clear, you recognize that Trump is an enemy of liberty, you just think that fair elections are important?



Where are those?

I am here.

[Contumacious]

So, to be clear, you recognize that Trump is an enemy of liberty, you just think that fair elections are important?



Where are those?

It is true that Mr Trump is non a Libertarian.

It also true that Mr Trump is far better for the nation than Biden.

In order for Mr Trump to get some of his projects approved he needed the support of a lot of scumbags in the Senate. That's the reality of political life.

[r3volution 3.0]

I am here.

One down, a couple dozen million to go...

There are very few small government people remaining within the GOP and they have no power.

Part of the reason that they have no power is that they mindlessly follow Trump.

If you're a Ron or a Rand, you should be trying to break them away from Trump.

This article (like so many others since 2015) does the exact opposite; it deludes people into thinking Trump is on our side.

[jkr]

]

[Anti Globalist]

I thought this article was going to mention a president of the past that was undermined by the Deep State.

[r3volution 3.0]

It is true that Mr Trump is non a Libertarian.

It also true that Mr Trump is far better for the nation than Biden.

In order for Mr Trump to get some of his projects approved he needed the support of a lot of scumbags in the Senate. That's the reality of political life.

I recall a time when the liberty movement wasn't interested in choosing the ever so slightly lesser of two evils, assuming Trump's even that.

[Contumacious]

I thought this article was going to mention a president of the past that was undermined by the Deep State.

Actually the First President who threatened the swamp - JFK- was declared a "threat to national security " and his brains splattered all over Dealey Plaza. I'm surprised the Brennan-Clapper Anti Trump Rogue group didn't go that route.